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Wags´s statement indicates that they plan to offer some kind of more detailed explanation, so we can also be thankful for that and wait until they are ready to formulate it. They don´t share RRG´s contractual obligations, but it seems like a good thing to do at this point...

Just don´t expect anyone to share too much information about internal and financial details if the MiG-21 is any indicator.

Cool, and also thanks for responding to the concerns about that.

Awesome, really? I mean, Wags probably is, but the whole thing is rather sad.

As long as the current stable of "in-development-projects" (including the F-18C!) isn´t in any danger, we´ll have lots to play with. A lot can change until then, but your concerns are spot on. BTW, does anyone like the screenshots and are those reflections on the BF-109 instruments real time? Probably not.

I remember that, yeah... There is not just a reputation at stake here. Hard to say what kind of damage could be done if they didn´t take over, but it´s gotta cost them.

lol Just as long as ED doesn´t get stretched too thin, I´m fine with it.

Wait, did a bomb just go off in here?! So much for trust, naiveté and good will...? Or perhaps judgement should better be reserved until it is finally knwon what really happened. I guess one has to be thankful towards ED...? With the backers section (beta) moving to the ED-homepage some time ago and the long delay this has to be something that didn´t just happen over night...

You are right, that´s the most reasonable approach, but on the other hand the complaints are justified for the most part. From a developers standpoint it probably makes more sense to work towards one big and impressive reveal rather than showing off features step by step as they are being integrated.

Some time in July? That´s gonna be a fun party on the MP servers. Who knows what else we´ll get to fly with by then... Love the screenshots.

Sorry, didn´t mean to pour more salt on an open wound... It´s just so blatantly obvious, but I´ll keep quiet for now.

So by this logic all modules which are announced between June and August 2014 might make it into one single version update... I like the idea.

Thx for posting. Eagerly awaiting this bird to deny defiant pony pilots their wishes ;)

If the development has progressed until this day (which it certainly has) why shouldn´t there be anything to discuss with or present to a select group of backers? We have actually seen lots of media, code is being worked on in the background, 3d models and map assets are being or have been created. 6 weeks ago the 109 was taking flight - wouldn´t it be fascinating to hear some privileged details of the development process? Where would be the problem to offer the people who pledged the appropriate amount some kind of NDA that gives them access under a spectator status? A quick look behind the curtain so to speak. If it´s just about a brief chat on Skype no media would have to be prepared beforehand. Just as a sidenote - what Rudel did with his work on Twitch was actually a great idea of Leatherneck. To me as a person with no background in software development it was a quite fascinating insight into his work...

The ones that may be relevant in this context: Gamestar.de, PCGames.de, 4Players.de, SimHQ, Gamespot, RockPaperShotgun etc.

I think their NDA might impact their work more severely because they have more access to ED´s internal affairs than others. After all DCSWWII is supposed to be some kind of independent parallel platform. They are closely entangled with ED and the work they do on some of the next modules. It´s basically the only reason for their PR policy that I can think of, because by now they pretty much mimic ED´s policy. -> RRG´s map will be made for/in EDGE - ED hasn´t shown anything of the NTTR running in EDGE recently - only Georgia - so perhaps until that´s properly intergrated they can´t showcase anything because ED strictly wants to keep the lid on things. Plus, they don´t like showing off unfinished work, i. e. images from the map viewer. -> The Dora is basically ED´s baby, so they probably decide what´s being shown and when, even if RRG has done some of the work for them. - That pretty much leaves the 109 & Co. I really llike to think that this is just the calm before the storm. In the weeks leading up to May they didn´t seem to have any problems with showing their work on the cockpits and external models... (which looked great BTW)

Another tease... Very much appreciated :) Isn´t there a slight irony to the fact that we are reading about the plans and developments of another WWII-related project in this forum?

I very much agree with you. Even having to check up on such things feels kinda weird. This leaves more room for speculation. Perhaps ED have him tightly gagged so no info on EDGE gets out or if he told us he´d have to kill us...

I don´t worry either, but I suspect that with regard to revealing their development progres, RRG is perhaps restricted by NDAs just like everybody else. Ells had to remove his EDGE/Hawk/WIP screenshots as well. The project is probably doing fine considering all the current transitions in DCS. How many people do seriously think the DCS WWII project is about to fail or suffer a huge setback?! Still, it´s also about reciprocity or the lack thereof...

This thread should probably best be locked. If you think it´s inappropriate to complain, fine, but I don´t think it´s necessary to bash anybody who posts in here. If the devs care at all, they´ll take notice, if not, then not.

Eh, well, at least we can be sure it will look good ;)

Let´s hope someone did some top secret map development. :) Didn´t Wags state that NTTR is already done and just awaiting the completion of / integration into EDGE? If now ED states that maps will be available in 2014, why should this not include the NTTR? @Raven68: I would think so, too. It sounds a little too realistic to be ingame sound. I´d love to be proven wrong about that though...

Best DCS teaser I´ve seen so far. Great work!

Ouch...