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/s means sarcasm. :)

:doh:

It's a third party chinese module. What's not to trust? You must be another Jeff hater. /s

There is an American saying: "If it ain't broke..."

F-14 is the strongest BVR fighter in DCS thanks to its 3rd party missiles. WVR it is still very dangerous. Mig-29 vs F14 is not competitive.

Crap, are you serious? I can get in trouble for posting random EM diagrams from the internet?:helpsmilie:

Call me crazy, but doesn't this EM chart show 9g at 430 knots at sea level, with about 23deg/s sustained turn? (this is the ps = 0 line) redacted Oh boy, our Viper would be a dogfighting monster then. I hope ED continues to work on the flight model.

I just tested. At 450knots in DCS you can sustain ~7.5g, so I was wrong. Have to get up to 500 knots to hold almost 9g. This was at sea level with default weather on Caucasus map. ---------------------- At 450 knots Hornet holds ~8g, with the paddle (get your pitchforks), so that is the issue right there. The F-18 is beating the F-16 at its own game. A few others sustained at ~100ft asl @ [450knots, 500knots] F-18: 8.0g, 9.0g F-16: 7.5g, 9.0g F-15: 7.1g, 8.0g M2K: 6.9g, 8.0g

You can hold both until you run out of fuel or blackout.

Speculating... At 360 knots and 7.5g you get about the same turnrate as 430 knots and 9g, plus the advantage of a smaller turning circle. The higher aspect ratio of the Hornet's wings is suited for those slower airspeeds.

Agree. It gets overlooked, but the Soviet era RWR do not afford the situational awareness of their western contemporaries. That said, I voted Su-27. :)

You need to set up defensive SAMs around the SA-10.

All that finger pointing at the Hornet and its paddle. It has nothing on the F-15. Read 'em and weep.

I can tell you've put a lot of work into this map. Tried it out (by myself) and it is a pretty lonely experience because the map needs dozens of people to feel "alive." It looks like you have Moose, Mist, slotblocker, and maybe some other scripts at work. When I went to choose an aircraft it was like this: client slot not available... client slot not available... client slot not available... etc. A little bit more info in the briefing could be helpful maybe. I always appreciate it when someone makes an effort to add some images to the briefing. Are you using MOOSE to control the AI interceptors? They were completely passive when I tried it. Framerates were good and I would love to try this map with more people. ----- Oh, and some waypoints could be helpful :)

Yes, I know, I've heard all about it. Other F-16Cs can carry it; I want a FrankenViper. ;)

We already have that.

True, IR missiles are fun, and the Viper excels with them. Yes, that is why I want the F-16 to be able to employ the Sparrow (so sue me).

Educational and a good reminder not to just leave on ECM.

And I find all of the spamraam servers pretty boring. Setting up grinds with volleys of 120s is realistic but snooze-inducing.

The issue is that ED would not make a module with only (a couple) SME as sources. 3rd party devs will, apparently, especially if the module will be a hot seller.

@skyblazer, this thread is about guns only combat per the OP flying on just dogfight. Anyway, it is a dynamic thing and you always adjust based on what the other guy is doing. 90% will just attempt pure pursuit, and the ones who don't can be countered in other ways. :)

Putting the FM discussion aside, my experience is that the DCS F-16 only has the advantage against the Hornet at 450 knots and above. Take the fight uphill in a climbing spiral at 480-500 kts (~8-9g) and there is no way he can follow. This works pretty well against the Mirage, too. Once you get above him you should win. Don't attempt this against the F-14 or F-15.

You are right. I was thinking of this monstrosity:

That is your opinion. Some already pledged money for the 262 during the 2014 kickstarter. It has to come if only to fulfill the pledges.

I have no illusions about why this map is slow to finish... It is free.:D