Viper1970

I must admit I still haven't used my G2 except testing it at the computer of my stepson to see if all is ok. My own system is running but not fully arranged at the moment. I also did only some tests with it, to see if the RTX 3090 is ok. Maybe I bought the hardware too early, but I caught the graphic card really cheap (it was a refusal with full warranty) and then bought the rest to be able to adapt it to the pit during the building process. I'm an older guy and I don't know if I come to terms with VR, especially for longer sessions. And I also always wanted to have a second option to fly in a pit with functional switches and the triple view in conjunction with a TIR, I always have dreamed of before VR was a matter. I hope I can get all running before the hardware is at low level again .

Also ich finde auch das Rudder-Pedale einen gewaltigen Unterschied machen. Ich bin lange Zeit jetzt nur an meinem alten Laptop geflogen (und auch nur olles Zeugs), weil zwecks Umzug, Wohnung einrichten etc. einfach noch nichts anderes ging. Da hatte ich einen simplen TM T.Flight HOTAS X dran und das mit der Z-Achse hat mich tierisch genervt, obwohl der Stick so (bis auf die Deadzone in allen Achsen - auch im Throttle mittig) gar nicht soo übel ist und sogar alternativ noch den analogen Paddle im Schubhebel hat. Also alte Gameport Ruder rausgekramt (kriegt man gebraucht oft hinterhergeworfen - CH, TM Elite etc.), Z-Achsen-Poti abgelötet, Stick mit Heißkleber im Z blockiert und die Kabel an eine 3.5 Audioklinkenbuchse dran. Die im Gehäuse integriert und an die ollen Gameportpedale auch ein Audioabel mit Klinkenstecker direkt ans Poti gelötet. Fertig waren die absteckbaren Ruder am Low-Budget Set und es war schon viel besser zum Fliegen. P.S: Heißkleber muss nicht sein, die kann man auch blockieren, war aber bei mir im Eimer weil auch der T.Flight gebraucht für lau war .

Cool! Looking good . It was only such an idea that came to my mind, cause I have those little TFT's lying arround unused. If someone mostly is flying in VR it doesn't make much sense, but I have planned to use my pit a lot in pancake mode too and in this case functional display in the TEDAC would be a nice thing, if really possible . Haven't done much with display export in DCS until now. I only used the "other" simulation in my old pit where I have used display extraction and working gauges and so on... I will now finish my Osprey parts (stick is already done - throttle is about 40% done) and after this I have only two smaller things I would also like to have finished. The wing sweep for my F-14 throttle and the handles for the modified Suncom SFS throttle for using it as the Apaches turbine levers are my last missing things for the pit. If this is done I will completely switch to the TEDAC grips. Meanwhile I will do some work on them from time to time, to have a bit variety in modeling. I don't like it much to stay too long at one thing only .

Yes, that's right. I did not have it in mind, but someone else was faster.

I can tell you tomorrow. Will take a look in my docs. PM me for the case I forget to answer your question.

Another thing that came to my mind. Are you making the MFD-part of the TEDAC for VR only? I have lying arround to small TFT's from my old pit here. One is a 8'' and one is a 10'' TFT. Very simple, only the display and electronics, no case, no touchscreens. The 8'' has also only a VGA connection and is only able of a 800x600 (4:3) resolution. The 10'' is DVI and can do 1366x768 (16:9). I'm thinking about integrating one of them to the TEDAC if possible .

Ok, calmed down a bit, new day, old mouse (the good one is trash). What a fool I am, but I was so angry (maybe it has also to do with the fact that I'm trying to stop smoking at the moment ). I hope TC is running better today. It was a real disaster the last week. Most of the modeling-time fades away while waiting for TC to connect some parts of the model, if it even does the job. Sometimes it hangs and I have to reload the project again and again, cleaning the browser cache and so on. I will work on both models in parallel now, my Osprey controls and the TEDAC grips, so it could take a while until I'm further. How far should I do them? I would like to make them similar to the rest of my grips, but I don't know if this is ok for you. Maybe some of you want to have them in an earlier state and doing the rest on your own.

Yep, genau das ist der Punkt! Und Mod-Driver die man so bekommt werden oft nicht akzeptiert, da unsigniert. Die Treibersignatur dauerhaft deaktivieren geht meist bis zum nächsten Update gut. Also die Updates auch gleich deaktivieren und so weiter und so fort... War alles super easy mit Win7 und deshalb mag ich weder Windows 10 noch Windows 11, aber seit WMR und DCS 2.7 bleibt ja nix anderes übrig. Sonst sehe ich, außer neuerem DirectX keine Vorteile und das läuft auch auf Windows 7 (und würde auch zukünftig laufen - wie gesagt unter der Haube hat sich seit Vista am Kernel recht wenig getan).

Looking sexy @Viper1970!! Thanks! If TinkerCAD works like it does at the moment, I will be ready in 20 years! Just smashed my mouse, cause the work I did the last two hours at my Osprey controls is gone away! Even the backup project I made can not be loaded anymore! It says something about that the design can't be loaded ("Knoten kann nicht geladen werden" - in german). I already had this sometimes, but I always was able to get the project loaded after a few tries. This time it looks like it is really gone away. I have backups of all the work offline, but if you reimport the things you have to position the parts exactly aligned and you can not go some steps back again if something is not the way you want it. It's also of course not at the final state .

Did some more work at the shape and adjusted the size. The handle is now 160mm in height. The rest of the dimensions should be also relatively fine in dependency to the height, cause I used the front- and the side view drawings for it. I also adjusted the handle a bit after a photo I found here, where you can see the transition from the side to the backside a little bit better as at the drawings. https://www.defencetalk.com/military/photos/us-army-ah-64d-apache-cockpit-gunners-station.49903/ Still very early stage. Next I will do some first work in Meshmixer.

Same for me! My pit will definitely take a long time to finish and I have to decide for which modules I start to make it ready. I thought one helo and one aircraft should be good enough for the beginning and I wanted to have this running until next summer. Maybe the Tomcat and the Apache will be my first ones (altough I will print all the parts after I finished modeling - they will spent some time in the cabinet first , but I must have all parts to be able to exactly align all the places for the changeable systems). I will try to model all the switches and analog sticks at the TEDAC-grip(s) and for sure also the dual-stage triggers. But I will use different electronics, cause I will use a Pokeys board for it But this doesn't make any difference in the grip itself, so it will be useable for anyone I think.

I already shared mine. Some guys have also already printed them respectively just doing the print. So it looks like the models are ok. I haven't printed them yet by myself, cause I want to finish all my other parts first and doing a long print session with all my parts after this. If you want the files also, just PM me. But as said in my homepit thread, they are meant for my own pit and therefore a lot of things have to be adjusted if someone would like to use them in another way. I also don't have the time and desire to make my models compatible to other needs at the moment. I only want to make my own dream of the last 25-30 years come true. I only made the HOTAS/universal cockpit thread to show that many things are possible even if you are not a 3D modeller or an electronic technican. If you have a dream and the aim to fulfill it, many things can be possible. Not perfect and not top notch, but good enough and mostly affordable.

Und gerade als EX-ITler läuft bei mir immer bewährtes Zeug auf meinen eigenen Rechnern. Für Experimente gibt's ja die anderen Rechner der jungen Generation in der Familie, die immer unbedingt das Neueste haben müssen .

Ok, I moved here. I started with the TEDAC grips now (maybe only one is needed and can be mirrored). It's just the rough shape made from 2D to 3D. I will add some more details now, forming it a bit better and make it more smooth, but I still have also to do finish my Osprey controls.

The very early beginning

Ok, just found what I need . I will start with the grips now in parallel to the rest of my parts.

Wow Hannibal, looks amazing! I will take a look at the TEDAC grips if I made the rest of my missing parts. Maybe some of you would like to do the rest if I made the rough shape of the grips. As mentioned before in the other thread, I'm slowly getting a bit tired of 3D modeling. I wanted to do some manual work now after all this theoretical stuff. P.S: Does anyone have a sideview of one of the the grips (90° rotated). Would make doing the shape much, much easier.

Hey Keycat, great work! Looks totally professional! I'm still at my last HOTAS and at the moment things are a bit difficult. After modeling for nearly 10 months now, I have no real desire anymore, but I wanted to finish the HOTAS parts. I'm looking forward to do some manual work at the pit now, while the printer will do all the HOTAS work for me

Always thought about that and if it could be possible, as I saw the HTC Vive Pro the first time and realized it has some foward looking cams. But after a research I found out that there is no way to overlay the outside view in VR. A guy at steam started such a program which can do it, but sadly stoped it after many negative reviews.

I love it (and the movie too)

Just seen that I totally forgot to model the Apache's rpm-throttle. I had plans to make it out of an old Suncom SFS Throttle with own 3d modeled grips and also connetable to my collective electronics, but have missed to make it until now. This has also to be done. So after the Osprey the F-14 wing sweep and the Apache throttle are the last HOTAS parts that have to be finished. The last step will be to smooth out all the controls I haven't smoothed yet (eg. the Blackhawk collective and of course the parts I'm building right now). If this all is done I will connect my pit and my command unit to my network and do some electrical stuff here also. At first my command unit will be completely finished. There is still a lot to do. The retro pc's are running, but the two other computers have to be set up again from scratch, one with Windows 7 and one with Windows 10. There is a lot to fiddle around with, cause I use a steelseries merc keyboard here, an old MS strategic commander and a saitek GM2 action pad (standalone and modified) I still love and would like to have them running at all costs. No problem in Windows 7 to get those old beloved devices running, but for 10 there are no drivers that run without a mess. Thank's to it's "security"-components it's a pitty to run devices with unsignatured mod-drivers. Only one of the reasons I don't like it and have avoided it like plaque (and there is even Win 11 now comming - another more resticted OS that brings nothing really new which couldn't be implemented to Windows 7 or even Vista cause it's nearly the same under the hood, besides more restrictions, sorry "security-upgrades" and the whole smartphone app crap).

I have a very similar layout. Works really good But your seat is much better as mine. I have a bucket seat and so it's hard to reach functions in the back parts of the side consoles.

My Osprey stick and the throttle: and the original https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/382438

@ agrasyuk PM sent The Osprey HOTAS will be more "Franken"-controls but I'm ok with it. I have to make a lot of assumptions here cause I have no pictures eg. of the back of the stick. I will model it a bit like my Apache cyclic here. I started to think about the construction of the manual wing sweep for the F-14 throttle also. At first I wanted to use the friction lever of the Warthog as base for the wing sweep, but I don't know if it's possible. Maybe I will model something additional, replacing the friction lever with a linear poti. Also not very realistic but easier to do as a convertion of the friction lever. P.S: I do not sell my models! If someone is interested, just sent me a PM. I'm alright with sharing my work, but I don't want to see it for sale anywhere. The models are far from being perfect at all, I made them only for my personal project. So keep in mind you have to change a lot to fit it for your own needs. Maybe I will do a new set of HOTAS somewhere in future, which are more suitable for all simmers, but for now I only want to finish my own dream .

I bought the predecessor of this one. They have slightly modified it now. At the time I bought mine (last year) there was no option to connect the TFT mounts directly to the rig. I had to use the standalone tripleview stand. But this has the advantage that you can adjust the space between your position and the TFT's a little bit. They also changed the wheel mount now. I use two old big tower cases to the left and the right, removed the faceplate, lying them at their front to the floor and mounted a wooden plate on their backside as base for my side consoles. I also have a small center console for the center stick (the last thing that survived from my old pit ). I made a small overhead too, which is connected to the triple view stand for use with bigger birds or helos I'm going to fly in another simulation. It can still be used as a Racing Rig after removing the center console and fold up the wheel mount. I did some modding here respectively I will do, cause not all is finished yet. I bought this one, cause it was very cheap compared to other rigs and is really, really stable built. A rig specially for flying is hard to find or expensive. The Akers Barnes concept is also a very clever solution and often used to start with a small "homepit". https://uvi.gg/product/uvi-racing-seat-pro/