berserkcol Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Good afternoon to everyone I'm Eduardo Fadul, I use to made planes for MS FS9 and X, and since some time ago I have been working in a little project. I want to make a recreation of the Malvinas/Falklands's war, which enfrented Argentina and England during 1982. I don't really have the time, knowled neither the money to make a official mod for this great sim, at least for the moment. That is why I want to make this mod with all your help, and if possible, also I will like to know if there are volunters interested to join in this project. For the moment I have 4 argentinian planes at diferent stages of development. IA-58 Pucara - Around 80% external model Super Etendard - Around 70% external model IAI Dagger - Around 40% external model A-4 B/C/Q - Around 15% external model ***************** After Malvinas/Falklands I would like to continue with the Cenepa scenary , which toke as protagonist the Ecuadorian Air Force (mirage F1, kfir C2, Jaguar Gr1, A-37B dragonfly) and the Peruvian Air Force (Mirage 2000, A-37B dragonfly) in 1995 Cessna A-37B Dragonfly - Around 95% external model Kind regards Eduardo Fadul :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 All Looking good. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyeddie Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Eduardo You will need somebody to fight mate ... a Sea Harrier and a Vulcan will do nicely. The Pucara and the Dragon look interesting, but sadly I am no modeller and cannot help with that. Good luck with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilkiki Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 hi Eduardo, nice models you did ! Be aware that FSX is not DCS. Flight models need to be coded with knowledge of .lua scripting. IMHO, you should consider making these aircrafts AI in a first time. Good luck I love the Pucara ! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Yeah Flight Modeling in DCS is pretty intense. EDIT: Read through these threads > http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=89164 http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=116901 I would say use the Dragonfly as a test bed. Edited February 22, 2015 by joey45 The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I don't really have the time, knowled neither the money to make a official mod for this great sim, at least for the moment. Maybe you want to contact the guys at VEAO - they have said that they plan to build a Falklands map. Maybe you can work out some sort of collaboration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berserkcol Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 Hi all, thanks you all for the answers. I am looking for the information to make some greats Sea Harrier Frs 1 and the Gr 3. I had read a little about how to make the flight dynamics, so all the links and information is really welcome. I'll try to get in contact with the people of VEAO. I'll love to get into a dogfight with the harriers and the mirage's family. Will be awesome to make some carrier ops since the HMS Invensible/Hermes and some low level flights into the gran malvinas map Kind regards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Good luck! It is a long hard road, but don't let that discourage you! :) DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emg Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Nice initiative, I like your models, best of luck :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Indeed, stick with it and hold on tight... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7rooper Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Great project, Eduardo Don't let the difficulties let you down. DCS is the perfect scenario for a Falklands/Malvinas war. Developing planes for FSX might be easier but we don't want them just to fly around without weapons. TacPack isn't an option... Expect a lot of work because you will need a map, models, cockpit models, .lua scripting, etc. I suggest you to start with the map. Build the map and finish your models as AI aircrafts. Then we could test them with the flyable planes DCS already have and at a later stage, one by one, you can make your own DCS level flyable planes I've made sceneries for FSX and do some 3D max modelling but my time is veery limited these days. However, just let me know how can I help a little. Good luck! Edited February 23, 2015 by 7rooper My rig specs: Intel Core i7 4770 @3.4Ghz // Corsair 16GB DDR3 // MoBo Asus Z87K // HDD 1TB 7200RPM // eVGA Nvidia GTX 760GT 2GB DDR5 // LG 3D 47" 1920x1080 // Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS // Saitek Combat Pro Pedals // Thrustmaster MFD Cougar pack // PS3 Eye + FTNOIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimi_uy Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Hey Eduardo, I wish i could help you. And this idea would be really awesome cause "across the pond" we still have Dragonfly's and Pucaras! The Fuerza Aerea Uruguaya would rejoice to have this available. If you ever happen to mod for Arma 3, I'll gladly help. Cheers [sIGPIC]][/sIGPIC] Fuel Planning Tool | DCS: A-10C SADL MOD | Kimi's Arma 3 Mods | Twitch.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trietnguyen Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Cessna model is very beautiful. I can help you make it fly in dcs I need 3D model of it (3ds max 2010), this is an aircraft already in Our country( viet nam war) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratos Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Sea Harrier and Gr.3 for the RAF/RN would be a outstanding plane to have in DCS, and the Malvinas terrain a great addition. I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berserkcol Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Thanks a lot to all for all the messages, is really great to see that this idea found its nest :smilewink: I'll really apreciate the help to make this planes flyables. Trietnguyen I'd really apreciated if also you can give me a little extra fast tutorial on how make that trick :smartass: I started the Sea Harrier................ what a complex bird you guys made.......... These are some pics of around 2 hours of work. The good part is that the FRS.1 and the Gr.3 shares almost everything of the external model, so make the second version wont must be harder. Sea Harrier FRS.1 - 5% of external model Kind regards Eduardo Fadul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markindel Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Thanks Edoardo, great idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 The hardest thing in DCS is to code the flight model. This is what devs are saying. Look... VEAO is struggling with one trainer and tge AFM release is not getting closer but further. AvioDev said the same... The AFM is going to take a lot of effort. ED said that AFM of F-15C cost them to develop around 100 000$. Novak from LNS said that to build a module for DCS you need just some kind of representation of a cockpit then you start to code like mad system after system and FM. So... Knowing this... And seeing some work done here an there on some external models... Is not a good sign of a good started project. In fact my atention would by drawn now only if a group of 2-3 coders would announce that they started work on one single plane and after coding many systems and some FM they ask for some help on 3D art. These atempts started out of boredom that produce more boredome since the author jumps after 5% of external model to yet another plane... Are the worst sign in module producing for DCS. Sorry if I sound negativist but is the reality. Time is limited and people here don't give much on franken planes with no FM and lower than FC3 systems modeling. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerFalcon Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I agree with Zaelu. Finding a team is very important for you to get these planes finished. The EFM process is long and you'll need at least someone to work with you on that. That said, I'm really looking forward to this project ! Very interesting aircraft were involved in this war. What aircraft do you plan to finish first ? Pucara will need multicrew implementation, so maybe the Etendard ? I don't think it has many complex systems, besides the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyeddie Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I have been following this thread and I started to try to remember how many Mods have been started and never finished since the early days of Lomac ... I lost count ... it was lots. You need willpower Eduardo, and lots of help, keep plugging away, there are some great guys on this site and they can work wonders when they have time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paganus Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) So many of these projects might make it to completion by setting their sites a little lower. Perhaps an FC3 level aircraft with a basic (sfm) flight model, at least to begin with. Edited February 27, 2015 by Paganus typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7rooper Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Like I said: You need to work on the map first. That's the biggest sign we're gonna have a Falklands/malvinas war even with BF-109's and Su-27. Then finish your 3D models and add planes as AI aircraft, then much later, when you have enough knowledge how DCS works and multicrew code is implemented, you can offer one by one DCS planes with AFM You need to face the truth and work step by step or you'll end up leaving this project behind My rig specs: Intel Core i7 4770 @3.4Ghz // Corsair 16GB DDR3 // MoBo Asus Z87K // HDD 1TB 7200RPM // eVGA Nvidia GTX 760GT 2GB DDR5 // LG 3D 47" 1920x1080 // Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS // Saitek Combat Pro Pedals // Thrustmaster MFD Cougar pack // PS3 Eye + FTNOIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakatak Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Jet Thunder lives? The project seems completely dead or at least on life support, but maybe you can contact some of the Jet Thunder devs to help you out with this. They likely already have a decent amount of information on it, and may be willing to rebuild in EDGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerFalcon Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Jet Thunder lives? The project seems completely dead or at least on life support, but maybe you can contact some of the Jet Thunder devs to help you out with this. They likely already have a decent amount of information on it, and may be willing to rebuild in EDGE. The devs of Jet Thunder seem very determined to finish developing themselves, even though many people have told them to move to DCS. It's been a long time but hey, how many years did IL-2 take to become what it is ? Maybe it'll turn out great. I think however that they'll probably accept to share some documentation on the aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berserkcol Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 I have an idea about the size of the project. I do really know that this a project is for a team, this is something that one person can't do for himself in a normal human live, but there is a little of hope. I want to continue the project, and the models, maybe in some point of the future will appear a program to make the flight dynamics. I do remember that when I was really young the FD for Flight Simulator must be programed in the hard way, then, year after year a lot of programs appear in the scene and make the things easier, making that the "hard part" becomes the 3d model. About Jet Thunder, I have been following the development of that sim since the beginning. I talked with the designers a lot of times, and offer my help for free. Also offer to pay to be a beta tester............. but so far nothing really have happened. I hope that someday that sim will see the light. For the moment I will continue the development, hoping do not have to end making the missions in Combat Flight Simulator 3. My goal is make the planes one by one; I think that the most attractive for a great amount of people will be the A-4 followed by the Dragonfly. The hope is get a team with knowledge to make those planes happen. It is possible that those planes will be released by some of the "big companies" as a payware mod............. Kind regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berserkcol Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hi all New pics of the A-4B/C. The intakes were modeled with the E's templates, I'll make the corrections for the B/C models. Kind regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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