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Good afternoon to everyone

 

I'm Eduardo Fadul, I use to made planes for MS FS9 and X, and since some time ago I have been working in a little project.

 

I want to make a recreation of the Malvinas/Falklands's war, which enfrented Argentina and England during 1982.

 

I don't really have the time, knowled neither the money to make a official mod for this great sim, at least for the moment.

 

That is why I want to make this mod with all your help, and if possible, also I will like to know if there are volunters interested to join in this project.

 

For the moment I have 4 argentinian planes at diferent stages of development.

 

 

 

IA-58 Pucara - Around 80% external model

 

 

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Super Etendard - Around 70% external model

 

 

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IAI Dagger - Around 40% external model

 

 

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A-4 B/C/Q - Around 15% external model

 

 

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After Malvinas/Falklands I would like to continue with the Cenepa scenary , which toke as protagonist the Ecuadorian Air Force (mirage F1, kfir C2, Jaguar Gr1, A-37B dragonfly) and the Peruvian Air Force (Mirage 2000, A-37B dragonfly) in 1995

 

Cessna A-37B Dragonfly - Around 95% external model

 

 

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Kind regards

 

Eduardo Fadul :pilotfly:

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Yeah Flight Modeling in DCS is pretty intense.

 

EDIT: Read through these threads >

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=89164

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=116901

 

I would say use the Dragonfly as a test bed.


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I don't really have the time, knowled neither the money to make a official mod for this great sim, at least for the moment.

Maybe you want to contact the guys at VEAO - they have said that they plan to build a Falklands map.

 

Maybe you can work out some sort of collaboration.

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Hi all, thanks you all for the answers.

 

I am looking for the information to make some greats Sea Harrier Frs 1 and the Gr 3.

 

I had read a little about how to make the flight dynamics, so all the links and information is really welcome.

 

I'll try to get in contact with the people of VEAO.

 

I'll love to get into a dogfight with the harriers and the mirage's family.

 

Will be awesome to make some carrier ops since the HMS Invensible/Hermes and some low level flights into the gran malvinas map

 

Kind regards

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Great project, Eduardo

 

Don't let the difficulties let you down. DCS is the perfect scenario for a Falklands/Malvinas war.

Developing planes for FSX might be easier but we don't want them just to fly around without weapons. TacPack isn't an option...

Expect a lot of work because you will need a map, models, cockpit models, .lua scripting, etc.

 

I suggest you to start with the map. Build the map and finish your models as AI aircrafts. Then we could test them with the flyable planes DCS already have and at a later stage, one by one, you can make your own DCS level flyable planes

 

I've made sceneries for FSX and do some 3D max modelling but my time is veery limited these days. However, just let me know how can I help a little.

 

Good luck!


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Hey Eduardo,

 

I wish i could help you. And this idea would be really awesome cause "across the pond" we still have Dragonfly's and Pucaras! The Fuerza Aerea Uruguaya would rejoice to have this available.

If you ever happen to mod for Arma 3, I'll gladly help.

 

Cheers

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Thanks a lot to all for all the messages, is really great to see that this idea found its nest :smilewink:

 

I'll really apreciate the help to make this planes flyables. Trietnguyen I'd really apreciated if also you can give me a little extra fast tutorial on how make that trick :smartass:

 

I started the Sea Harrier................ what a complex bird you guys made.......... These are some pics of around 2 hours of work. The good part is that the FRS.1 and the Gr.3 shares almost everything of the external model, so make the second version wont must be harder.

 

Sea Harrier FRS.1 - 5% of external model

 

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Kind regards

 

Eduardo Fadul

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The hardest thing in DCS is to code the flight model. This is what devs are saying.

 

Look... VEAO is struggling with one trainer and tge AFM release is not getting closer but further. AvioDev said the same... The AFM is going to take a lot of effort. ED said that AFM of F-15C cost them to develop around 100 000$. Novak from LNS said that to build a module for DCS you need just some kind of representation of a cockpit then you start to code like mad system after system and FM.

 

So... Knowing this... And seeing some work done here an there on some external models... Is not a good sign of a good started project.

 

In fact my atention would by drawn now only if a group of 2-3 coders would announce that they started work on one single plane and after coding many systems and some FM they ask for some help on 3D art.

 

These atempts started out of boredom that produce more boredome since the author jumps after 5% of external model to yet another plane... Are the worst sign in module producing for DCS.

 

Sorry if I sound negativist but is the reality. Time is limited and people here don't give much on franken planes with no FM and lower than FC3 systems modeling.

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I agree with Zaelu. Finding a team is very important for you to get these planes finished. The EFM process is long and you'll need at least someone to work with you on that.

 

That said, I'm really looking forward to this project ! Very interesting aircraft were involved in this war.

What aircraft do you plan to finish first ? Pucara will need multicrew implementation, so maybe the Etendard ? I don't think it has many complex systems, besides the radar.

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I have been following this thread and I started to try to remember how many Mods have been started and never finished since the early days of Lomac ... I lost count ... it was lots.

 

You need willpower Eduardo, and lots of help, keep plugging away, there are some great guys on this site and they can work wonders when they have time.

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Like I said: You need to work on the map first. That's the biggest sign we're gonna have a Falklands/malvinas war even with BF-109's and Su-27. Then finish your 3D models and add planes as AI aircraft, then much later, when you have enough knowledge how DCS works and multicrew code is implemented, you can offer one by one DCS planes with AFM

You need to face the truth and work step by step or you'll end up leaving this project behind

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Jet Thunder lives?

 

The project seems completely dead or at least on life support, but maybe you can contact some of the Jet Thunder devs to help you out with this. They likely already have a decent amount of information on it, and may be willing to rebuild in EDGE.

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Jet Thunder lives?

 

The project seems completely dead or at least on life support, but maybe you can contact some of the Jet Thunder devs to help you out with this. They likely already have a decent amount of information on it, and may be willing to rebuild in EDGE.

 

The devs of Jet Thunder seem very determined to finish developing themselves, even though many people have told them to move to DCS. It's been a long time but hey, how many years did IL-2 take to become what it is ? Maybe it'll turn out great.

 

I think however that they'll probably accept to share some documentation on the aircraft.

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I have an idea about the size of the project. I do really know that this a project is for a team, this is something that one person can't do for himself in a normal human live, but there is a little of hope.

 

I want to continue the project, and the models, maybe in some point of the future will appear a program to make the flight dynamics. I do remember that when I was really young the FD for Flight Simulator must be programed in the hard way, then, year after year a lot of programs appear in the scene and make the things easier, making that the "hard part" becomes the 3d model.

 

About Jet Thunder, I have been following the development of that sim since the beginning. I talked with the designers a lot of times, and offer my help for free. Also offer to pay to be a beta tester............. but so far nothing really have happened. I hope that someday that sim will see the light. For the moment I will continue the development, hoping do not have to end making the missions in Combat Flight Simulator 3.

 

My goal is make the planes one by one; I think that the most attractive for a great amount of people will be the A-4 followed by the Dragonfly. The hope is get a team with knowledge to make those planes happen. It is possible that those planes will be released by some of the "big companies" as a payware mod.............

 

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