SkipCarey Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Im on the fence...............Opinions Please Thanks
FragBum Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 I would say yes! VR in DCS is not perfect but then neither is the VR tech yet. I fly mostly rotary and the immersion and spatial perception VR offers makes the rest of arguments a moot point. Besides there are other VR titles as well. There maybe cost involved depending on your current hardware and which VR HMD you want to go with. :thumbup: Control is an illusion which usually shatters at the least expected moment. Gazelle Mini-gun version is endorphins with rotors. See above. Currently rolling with a Asus Z390 Prime, 9600K, 32GB RAM, SSD, 2080Ti and Windows 10Pro, Rift CV1. bu0836x and Scratch Built Pedals, Collective and Cyclic.
Tricky11 Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 if you are a FPS watcher or a pixel counter then don't bother. If you want total immersion and fantastic depth perception then yes get it. I went for VR and I will no longer play any game that is not vr compatible
MA_Goblin Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 I'd venture as far as say YES! But be aware that You cannot run with all bells and whistles in graphics but immersion is outstanding. You will be sweating after an intense battle :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] _____________Semper paratus, In hoc signo vinces________________ PC: Intel i7-8700K (4.9 GHz), Aorus Ultra Gaming Z370 MB, Gigabyte RTX 3080, 32 GB DDR3 (3,2 GHz), Samsung EVO 860 M.2 500 GB SSD + Samsung 960 M.2 250 GB SSD Gaming: Virpil T-50 CM2, TM WH Throttle, Crosswind pedals, HP Reverb
0414 Wee Neal Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Hi I agree with the above, during 2017 I was flying in a home built simpit for the A10c with triple HD projectors and using Helios; complete with a 180 Deg wrap around screen, all of which took 3 years to build. I tried the Rift in Dec 17 and that was the end of the simpit! The whole experience for me was amazing, and still is. I personally dont worry about the resolution, but once you fly through a cloud in a WW2 warbird fairly certain you will be hooked. Neal Desktop PC: Intel i7 14700K, MSI Z790 MAG Tomahawk MOBO, 64Gb RAM , GPU Nvidia RTX 3080ti Windows 11, VPC joystick, Crosswind rudder peddles, HP Reverb G2, VPC Collective, DOF Reality H2, Gametrix seat, WinWing panels.
33-DFTC Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 I am into the "meh" camp. VR is clearly a big step regarding immersion, no doubt about that. But it can be a deal breaker for some users when used within DCS ; the tech is almost there and works really well with plenty of games, other sims too. The fact is DCS need a drastic improvement in the VR department. I'm saying this as I used to play VR with the Rift and I'm patiently waiting for my 5K+ from Pimax. If you're looking for stellar graphics and high FPS count, you can wait for Eagle Dynamics to work and implement VR correctly in DCS - if it's even possible, I don't know how difficult it could be for the dev to work around their engine. There are only two types of aircraft, fighters and targets. - Major Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson, USMC
Mr_sukebe Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 I've been flying in DCS VR for a couple of years now. My vote is a definite yes. I MUCH prefer VR to a monitor, despite the current drawbacks of worse resolution and slugged frame rates. 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
dburne Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Oh heck yes! Got my Rift on Jan 15 2017. Last day I flew DCS on a monitor - Jan 14 2017. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Max_Factor Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 VR is an experience and not a game... i7 7820X OC @4.8GHz | Dual GTX 1080Ti | 32GB DDR4 3000 | Samsung 256GB SSD | Win 10 x64 | Samsung Odessey | TM Warthog | TM Pedals
HC_Official Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 No from me, going from a 34" ultrawide with Gsync to VR was not impressed. Low FPS and inability to spot targets ruined it for me, waiting next gen VR and will try it again then. Don't get me wrong the feeling of being in the "pit" was amazing, but not worth the loss of resolution No more pre-orders Click here for tutorials for using Virpil Hardware and Software Click here for Virpil Flight equipment dimensions and pictures. .
Mule Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 I have never flown using a monitor since I got VR. It's still incredible that I can sit in the pit. Things like A2A refuelling are so much easier to master. Don't get me wrong it's still a challenge but it's no longer a massively, frustrating experience. Taking off and landing in helicopters is so much easier. I will never go back and with ED clearly on board with VR it's gonna get better. Fighter Pilot Podcast.
fiddlinjim Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Everything being said about the VR experience is absolutely true, the immersion is phenomenal and not being able to see the keyboard is no problem with a good Hotas like the Warthog. Clarity in VR is not as good as with a high resolution TV but after you've used your VR HMD for a very short time you just don't notice any detraction's. I suspect most of the naysayers put on a VR HMD for 5 seconds and then complain without giving it a real chance or they have their minds made up prior to even trying VR. I use the Rift and have a Pimax 5K+ on order but the Vive users like their unit also. Give VR an honest try and you can't help but toss out the monitor, it's absolutely great!!!
dawgie79 Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) Get off the fence and get into VR. ;) You won't regret it. I was worried about the readabilty of gauges and DDI's/MFCD's in the cockpits, but actually I was really surprised with how clear everything is. Edited December 28, 2018 by dawgie79
wrl11 Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 YES. I have been playing flight sims for a long time, and I will never play one again outside of VR. It is a total game changer. .
javelina1 Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 I have not flown 2D in the last 18 months. VR all the way. As stated, get off the fence! :-) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
hansangb Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Im on the fence...............Opinions Please Thanks Depends. What HW are you thinking of running it on? hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
Tinkickef Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) I played IL2 Cliffs of dover and had many friends over there, however when Palmer Luckey announced the Crescent Bay prototype (now Rift CV1) I was more than a little intrigued. So had a look around at games that supported it. CLoD did not and still does not support it, so came across DCS. Now I had heard of DCS, but not really given it much thought. At the time the CLoD scenery on the YouTube vids I saw seemed to be much better, however with the imminent advent of consumer VR, I thought it worth a try and downloaded the freebie stuff. Rift came out and I sat in the interminably delayed preorder queue for around 6 months. In the meantime I ordered the Hog to get to know while I was waiting. I did not know what to expect, I expected something a little similar to track IR head tracking, only 1 to 1 and surrounded by a box full of painted on controls that worked when you pushed them. The reality of VR just completely blew my mind. I was not expecting even screw heads on the panels to be 3D, and not 3D you find on a 3D TV with goggles, proper natural looking 3D. I have not been back to CLoD since, nor any other 2D game. Get off that fence, you will only get splinters in your arse....and miss out on something stupendous if you like the experience of flying and not just pushing buttons to knock someone out of the sky. Edited December 28, 2018 by Tinkickef System spec: i9 9900K, Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Ultra motherboard, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 RAM, Corsair M.2 NVMe 1Tb Boot SSD. Seagate 1Tb Hybrid mass storage SSD. ASUS RTX2080TI Dual OC, Thermaltake Flo Riing 360mm water pumper, EVGA 850G3 PSU. HP Reverb, TM Warthog, Crosswind pedals, Buttkicker Gamer 2.
SkipCarey Posted December 28, 2018 Author Posted December 28, 2018 Asus rampage extreme 111 I7 950 OC to 3.4 1070 gtx 16gb ram SSDs in sata2 6g
hansangb Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Asus rampage extreme 111 I7 950 OC to 3.4 1070 gtx 16gb ram SSDs in sata2 6g The i7 950 may have a hard time keeping up. 1070 is doable, but 1080Ti is (of course) better for VR. Perhaps folks with similar setup in HW can chime in and help out. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
GTFreeFlyer Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Yes! I’m new to DCS and VR altogether, but I’m hooked. You will quickly not care about the lower resolution. It’s not really that bad. Hard to spot targets from 10kft? Yeah, but I have a TGP for that :) I can easily make out targets on the ground during a strafing run when I get within gun range. HUD is clearly visible. I’m running a 2080 card in my PC. DCS is limited at 45 FPS for VR no matter how low I turn down the settings. That being said, I have all graphics settings on highest possible and PD of 1.5 and I’m gettting a solid 45 FPS. PD 2.0 dropped it down to 40 FPS and I was able to tell the difference. 45 FPS lets me stay in the cockpit for several hours without any nausea. Good luck, and yes, go for it. I found the Rift + Touch on Microsoft’s eBay store for $299 last month. It was a no-brainer. Also, you need to find a way to stay away from the keyboard as much as possible when in VR. I found this out the hard way, by having to spend another $450 for the TM Warthog. It gets expensive quick, but well worth it. My DCS Missions: Band of Buds series | The End of the T-55 Era | Normandy PvP | Host of the Formation Flight Challenge server Supercarrier Reference Kneeboards IRL: Private Pilot, UAS Test Pilot, Aircraft Designer, and... eh hem... DCS Enthusiast
SkipCarey Posted December 28, 2018 Author Posted December 28, 2018 already have a warthog,and I just pulled the trigger on the rift my real concern is im running windows 7 and absolutely hate the idea of going to windows ten any thoughts ?Ive read that it will run on 7 ? also I hated trackir so VR was just a matter of time
SkipCarey Posted December 28, 2018 Author Posted December 28, 2018 my 1070 is 8gb also Ive run futuremark benchmark and this box still gets in the 14500 range. I may just get a water cooler and Overclock to 3.7
GTFreeFlyer Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 I don’t know how it runs on Windows 7, no experience. I was also very anti-switching to 10, but I just bought a new PC (prebuilt) and all the new ones come with 10. I looked for something with Windows 7, but ended up just going with 10. Now that I have it, I’m not so anti-10. I might still like 7 better, but 10 is just fine, no regrets buying it. My DCS Missions: Band of Buds series | The End of the T-55 Era | Normandy PvP | Host of the Formation Flight Challenge server Supercarrier Reference Kneeboards IRL: Private Pilot, UAS Test Pilot, Aircraft Designer, and... eh hem... DCS Enthusiast
Deano87 Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Y E S As long as you have the hardware to back it up. Low performing VR is worse than no VR at all imho:puke: When you get it working right than its unlike anything else. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
dburne Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Agreed, a good HOTAS and Voice Attack along with Vaicom Pro make flying in VR so much better. I have a VKB Gunfighter Pro stick, Warthog Throttle, and CH Throttle quadrant for extra axis and buttons. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
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