Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) Hi, To check the HUD visibility this patch I loaded up the Instant Action F-16 mission "offensive BFM", and it seems the damage model is broken: the first Su-27 ate 4 sidewinders and kept going, so I followed up with both amraams, and still it kept going. It's only after landing a few gun rounds that he ejected. Track included below: Track: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F18kMBOfFLO2H7_F-pcIGw-W32NIPzoh/view?usp=sharing (forum upload failed since the track is 10MB) Edited June 10, 2020 by Elysian Angel first track failed to upload - added link to google drive instead Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
Reflected Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 I noticed this too. Planes aren't destroyed by missile hits anymore. They get damaged and fly on smoking. I had a problem downing F5s, so it must be universal. Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord
BonerCat Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) Just dumped 6 AIM-9's into an F-5 and he lived Edited June 10, 2020 by BonerCat Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, M-2000C, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B N/A, MiG-29, Su-33, MiG-21 Bis, F-5E, P-51D, Ka-50, Mi-8, Sa 342, UH-1H, Combined Arms Maps and others: Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandy, WWII Assets, NS 430 + Mi-8 NS 430
ouky1991 Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Came here to report this. In F-16 against J-11. 2 AIM-120 and I emptied all cannon rounds in him, he was visually damaged and smoking but kept flying untill bingo fuel.
Sedlo Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Same, instant action mission issue. Model shows damage, smoke, but doesn't seem to be destroy-able. I even hit the MiG with my own plane, it caused my aircraft to suffer visible damage, but it still flew just fine. Track attached.instant action damage.trk My Youtube Channel MY DCS MISSIONS
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted June 10, 2020 Author Posted June 10, 2020 UPDATE: It seems to be just aircraft: my KA-50 kills tanks and SAMs just fine. Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
deadpool Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Teste F-16 and F-18 using AIM120 and AIM9 against F5, Su25, Su27. Neither guns, nor missiles would bring the enemy planes down. Only flying into them killed them sufficiently. So while I guess due to the less than cheerful and productive mood Airhunter's post will disappear. It is certainly understandable where it's coming from. Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Do not expect a reply to any questions, 30.06.2021 - Silenced by Nineline
Wizard_03 Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Well the radar doesn't work in the hornet anymore so I don't think I'll be able to use missiles anyway :D Its a disaster DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
ouky1991 Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Why not use the same testers they used for supercarrier? Give them acces to the patch for a day before you release it.
Lange_666 Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 It's Open Beta... i can't believe why you dudes still get caught in the same trap? Oh, i know why... i want it first, no i want it first, NO, I WANT IT FIRST. And then it blows up in your face... again!! Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
Airhunter Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Why not use the same testers they used for supercarrier? Give them acces to the patch for a day before you release it. Because that doesnt get them any money. They already sold the P-47 and Channel map, so why bother with testing? ;)
Airhunter Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 It's Open Beta... i can't believe why you dudes still get caught in the same trap? Oh, i know why... i want it first, no i want it first, NO, I WANT IT FIRST. And then it blows up in your face... again!! Because the current "stable" verion is any better? It is maybe slightly less broken but still riddled with the same bugs and issues.
ouky1991 Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Because that doesnt get them any money. They already sold the P-47 and Channel map, so why bother with testing? ;) But they were volunteers testing it for free, this is not money issue.
F16wannabe Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 This issue has been reported. Thank you for the post. [sIGPIC]https://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic108184_1.gif[/sIGPIC]
Fabri91 Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Goddamit ED, test your shit before you push stuff... Best case scenario it's the wrong build that has been pushed, which isn't too encouraging. OS: Win11 Pro 64bit MB: ASUS B550-I STRIX CPU: AMD R7 5800X GPU: Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super 12GB RAM: 32GB DDR4 SSD (OS and Sims): Samsung 980 Pro 2TB Accessories: TrackIR5, Virpil WarBRD, Warthog HOTAS Throttle, CH Pedals
deadpool Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Well the radar doesn't work in the hornet anymore so I don't think I'll be able to use missiles anyway :D Its a disaster What works and what I used to test was ACM Boresight mode in the Hornet. Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Do not expect a reply to any questions, 30.06.2021 - Silenced by Nineline
unlikely_spider Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 It's Open Beta... i can't believe why you dudes still get caught in the same trap? Oh, i know why... i want it first, no i want it first, NO, I WANT IT FIRST. And then it blows up in your face... again!! I moved to OB because the campaigns were (and still are?) broken on Stable. Don't pretend like everything works there either. Modules: Wright Flyer, Spruce Goose, Voyager 1
BlackSharkAce Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 It’s beyond me at this point.. also stable version is basically a previous beta with the same bugs so can’t really use that either. I don’t understand why people keep defending ED. In the current crisis the first step is to acknowledge there is a profound issue in their development process. Loving the game, but suffering the lack of improvement and constant state of unfinished work. Hope they figure it out sooner then later. Cheers’
Gripen 4-1 Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 What works and what I used to test was ACM Boresight mode in the Hornet. +1 ED get your mess working! Since february and 2.5.6 there are bugs after bugs after bugs. One fixed bug opens 10 other bugs. Performance is crap too since 2.5.6 in VR! What's going on with you? This sim is a joke at the moment!!! A bad joke! SYS: II Asus X670E-F || Ryzen 9800X3D || Gainward RTX4090 || 2x48 GB Kingston Fury Renegade 6000Mhz || XPG Core Reactor 850 Watt PSU || Kingston Fury 2 TB NVME SSD || WD SN850 1TB NVME SSD || 1 x 500 GB Crucial MX300 SATA SSD || 2 x HDD 3TB || INPUT: II Thrustmaster F-16 & F-18 Stick on Virpil War BRD Bases || WinWing Orion2 F-16EX Viper Throttle Combo || WinWing Orion2 F/A-18 Hornet Throttle Combo (With Finger Lift) || WinWing Takeoff Panel II MFG Crosswind Pedals w. Damper || 3 x Thrustmaster Cougar MFD || Multipurpose UFC || II Wheel Stand Pro II VR: HP Reverb G2
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted June 10, 2020 Author Posted June 10, 2020 Performance is crap too since 2.5.6 in VR! Funny that you'd say that: my experience is the opposite. That's one thing that seems to be working out for ED these last few builds: for me at least performance is getting better and better :) Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
BlackSharkAce Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Funny that you'd say that: my experience is the opposite. That's one thing that seems to be working out for ED these last few builds: for me at least performance is getting better and better :) Agree, performance is slightly better and visuals are on the rise as well. What’s also on the rise is CTDs and bugged systems.
ouky1991 Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 UPDATE: It seems to be just aircraft: my KA-50 kills tanks and SAMs just fine. Not really, it's more of A/A problem. Ka-50 can't take out other helos anymore(12 vikhrs and Mi-24 only smoking but still flying). And I had no problem bombing tanks in F-16 on current version.
QuiGon Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Does the issue exist against AI aircraft or client aircraft or both? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
stormrider Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 It’s beyond me at this point.. also stable version is basically a previous beta with the same bugs so can’t really use that either. I don’t understand why people keep defending ED. In the current crisis the first step is to acknowledge there is a profound issue in their development process. Loving the game, but suffering the lack of improvement and constant state of unfinished work. Hope they figure it out sooner then later. Cheers’ For me they have until BMS implement VR to figure their stuff out. Banned by cunts.
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