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I recently moved, so I had to completely tear down my setup and move it. After setup, I can't get my Winwing MFDs to work. I have the full "top gun MIP" setup, with the UFC, HUD unit, and 3x MFDs w/ displays. The displays are working properly. The MFD portion with the buttons is not responding at all, on any of the 3 MFDs. When I plug them in I don't get a ding from Windows saying a USB device has been plugged in. I've tried moving the cables around. I plugged the USB-C cable from the working UFC unit into the MFD and nothing. I have everything plugged into a powered USB hub. I tried plugging the MFD directly into my computer, still nothing. They don't show up in SimAppPro or in DCS. I tried restarting with them plugged directly into my computer. Still nothing. Any suggestions?

Hello, I own the Winwing orion 2 hotas which I am really enjoying for the F-16 I am starting to learn how to fly the Apache and it doesn't feel very comfortable flying it with the MFSSB kit I am not interested in replacing the kit with damper every time I am considering purchasing another orion 2 joystick and set it with the damper kit, or buying something completely different for the purpose. Really appreciate your comments and opinion on this matter.

Hello all, I just purchased an Orion 2 Navy Ace throttle, and I can't map the throttle axis. I can map everything else, and the throttle works for aircraft that already have it set as default in their profile, but unless it is set as default, I can't map Rx or Ry to any controls. I have tried this both with SimAppPro running, and with it shutdown, and I get the same results both ways. I have tried a game repair. I know the game can see it, I know it registers the axis, but for some reason it just will not register when I try to map it. Winwing support wasn't much help, and honestly I'm not surprised. This seems like a DCS issue. Anyone ever run into this before? More importantly has anyone ever fixed this before? Please tell me how.

Hello all, When I try to set up my MFD frames through a USB Hub, only center one of them is being discovered by SimApp. If i plug them directly into the PC they are all visible. I thought if i unplug the center and try left or right it should get discovered it still doesn't. Tried swapping cables and USB slots in the hub. No luck. For some reason even if just left MFD frame is plugged in it just doesn't get detected, same goes for the right frame. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I bought a WinWing Orion 2 base with an F-16EX grip recently, and my order came with two plastic gaskets and an instruction sheet telling me to install one of the gaskets depending on how much offset/angle I want between the grip and the base. I installed one of the gaskets and now the grip doesn't screw in all the way because the gaskets are 2-3mm thick. The base + grip seem stable enough and there's no twist in there at all. Am I doing this right? Will this cause issues down the road (e.g. ruining the threads on the grip or base)? Pictures below.

Hey guys, selling my almost brand new winwing PTO2 combat panel. I'm in Australia. Im selling it for $100aud off the Australian retail price - $220 aud. Selling it because I've decided to build a replica hornet cockpit. More info here: https://au.winwingsim.com/view/goods-details.html?id=542

Hi all, I am fortunate to have the fantastic Vrsimsolutions MIP and I will admit it works extremely well with its intended function the F18 and utilising a DCS Bios file from their website. However I’m wondering is there a way to get the lighting functions working with other aircraft? I mean all aircraft have a master caution light and fire lights right. Some have the same rwr warning lights as the f18. Yes in a different position on the cockpit but the signal to illuminate said light would still be similar surely. I admit that when it comes to programming I am absolutely hopeless, so I’m wondering if anyone else has had the situation where they can utilise cockpit lights for each module they own in the same home cockpit.

I am trying to update my Orion2 joystick base, but SimAppPro won't let me without disconnecting the F16 JGrip. So, am I supposed to take it apart just to update? I have never run into this issue before with this HOTAS. I added some screen grabs for clarity.

I managed to scrounge up information from various scattered forum posts a while ago to make this monitor config a while ago, which currently has no issues working: However, I recently got 2 more MFD screens, but when I tried to add them to my monitor config file the main menu now stretches across all the MFDs, is there something I missed? Was hoping there would be some centralized up to date area where I can find out what I need to edit. EDIT: I plugged the code into copilot and it managed to pull the answer out of the ether for me, here it is in case it helps anyone.

I recently got a WINWING MFSSB and absolutely love it as I fly the F-16 more than anything else. However I did not like is how I could feel the metal on metal transition from movement to force. I came up with the idea of inserting 0.5mm silicone sheets around both transducers (photos attached) and it is the best decision I've ever made! It is now a completely smooth transition from movement to force! The stick is still completely movable since the silicone is easily compressed against the transducer. Your curves may need to be tweaked slightly but it is an absolute must have modification in my opinion. This also completely removes the force stepping that you would normally see without the modification (Curves attached)

Hey,everyone.I installed the throttle.At this time, you must look at the parameters in the software:Set afterbumer ratio.This value is 75%, if you install it correctly, your card position will be correct in DCS.It took me three hours to install and adjust, and honestly I'm running out of patience because the side panels have to be in the right position.If you have installed,MIL-AB is 75%, congratulations, you can enjoy flying to the fullest. My other device is FSSB R3L,ORION cannot be installed to FSSB.SO is Thrustmaster A-10C Warthog+FSSB. I highly recommend this set of equipment to pilots who like F16!!! Supplementary pictures…

Hi, I just received my winwing super taurus and super libra, and I found that if I use the radar elevation wheel on the throttle for the f16 it always recenters when I stop giving input with the wheel, is there any way to make it work without recentering? Thanks

Purchased from original owner. 3 way switch (pictured) broke off. Winwing sent him a replacement switch. With a 2 month old, I simply don't have time to replace. $100 shipped to your door ( USA,Lower 48). These are retailing new for $250 new with $45 shipping. If you have the time, this is a steal. Please see my facebook posting for more pictures. Comes in original packaging (minus a cheap piece of 2 sided tape and manual (you can find the manual on WinWing's website. I am more partial to the Viper, so haven't gotten much use from it. I accept PayPal for protection of all parties. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/416206550121427/

Hello everyone, I'm in the middle of my simpit update.. just purchased VKB gunfighter III ( combat pro Grip). Now I’m looking to upgrade my throttle. So asking for feed back. Just as an FYI, upgrading from tmw. And mostly fly F-18 and the F-16. ( thinking of later flying the AV8) thank you

Куплю сетап комплект или частями, для освоения и прогрессирования в пилотировании вертолетов. Лучше VirPil, Winwing или VKB.

as per title i have no idea how to make the Vibrator work in DCS

What setting could help to read the HUD again. IIRC wasn't that a problem some time ago.

After updating to the latest software (1.8.18), my UFC/HUD controls are not recognized in SimApp Pro and the exports from the game are not working on the physical MIP UFC controller. The game recognizes the controller is there and functions correctly with all of the buttons/knobs, etc., so it is being detected by Windows and DCS, just not in the SAP software. I tried doing the repair lua function and that did not solve the problem. I tried unplugging the USB-C cable to the controller and plugging it back in, but that did not work either. I have the ST throttle, SL joystick, CR and TO panels, and the 3 MFDs connected, and they are all recognized and working correctly in SAP. Anyone else seeing this or know of a way to roll back to the previous version of the SAP software to troubleshoot?

Hi, This the first serious stick I'm buying (I have a crappy no-name one) and I can't decide between these two. I will be using it with a ~20cm extension in center position I did a little bit of research on the web and from what I understand: Winwing's cons: 1- Winwing (as it's F18 replica) lacks analog ministicks, which I think I would find useful for guiding certain weapons or as MFD cursor etc. and overall it has less switches compared to VKB. 2- Watching Youtube reviews of the Winwing, apparently there were a lot of issues with tolerances and switches' quality etc in early units which were promised to be fixed in production units, and I'm wondering if these issues were actually fixed? VKB's cons: 1- It's more expensive than Winwing, 550$ (ultimate Pro-L) vs 350$ (Winwing joystick base + grip + extension, as I will be getting a third party mount) 2- Even though the grip is made out of metal, the joint between the grip and the base seems to be made out of plastic with troublesome fasteners, and I've read people saying it does flex quite a bit at full deflection especially with heavy springs ... 3- From what I read it seems that the feeling around the center isn't as smooth and as good as Winwing's? I would appreciate your thoughts and personal experiences Thanks

hey guys just joined the forum! I was wondering on reviews for the winwing orion on youtube, they stated that you could use the z axis adapter for it but on winwings web site it says its not recommended. has anyone tried this? does it work or not fit?

TLDR: The preorder process is a queue and there are lots of folks in line ahead of you, but WW is catching up quickly on all the back orders (see some of the replies below). Average time from preorder to payment is about 4 weeks (as of 5-15-2022). Shipping varies after that, but the tracking info usually comes within a day of payment processing. All in all, now that I've got my gear, I can certainly say it's worth the wait! ----- Original Post ------ Just thought I'd weigh in on timing for the Orion 2 for those who have preordered as a FYI FWIW. I want to be clear I do not represent WW in any way, I'm just a regular customer like you. Also, this is neither a complaint nor a review, just information for other folks interested in pre-ordering the new Orion 2 Hotas. I'm overall happy with what WinWing is doing and don't want this to come across as grumpy. I assure you it's not. Just informational. I tried to order an Orion 1 Hotas twice, but couldn't get a purchase to go through because the WinWing site crashed every time they restocked and by the time it was back up they were all sold out. March 11, 2022: I was delighted when they introduced the pre-order system because that meant I could actually order an Orion. I preordered mine on March 11, 2022 at roughly 4:30 pm CET. I immediately received their standard email about waiting for the pre-order to be filled and watched my inbox for the payment request. Once received, I would be able to pay for the product and they would begin shipping. All posts indicated that shipping is usually pretty quick (~2 weeks), but each component ships separately, which is not ideal. March 11-April 3: Waiting...checking email religiously. Crickets. Usually they restock every two weeks, but no email for almost a month. April 4, 2022: WW posts their first "We have something new" teaser. I go, "huh." April 5-9, 2022: As more posts and more info come out, I realize they are updating the Orion, which explains the lack of email. I also worry about whether my order for an old Orion will be filled, or whether I could potentially upgrade it and what the price differential would be. April 10, 2022: Official WW announcement (cool video!). Also the message on their website clarifies my fate: As a previous preorder customer, I'm getting a free upgrade to the Orion 2! Thanks Winwing!! (Still no email though, I saw all this because I was continuously checking their website to make sure I wasn't missing anything and that my pre-order was still pending). April 14, 2022 (time of OP): Still no email and tbh I'm not holding my breath. With everything going on around the world, I don't expect this to come quickly. I'm hoping by the end of May, but it may be longer. I DO wonder though if the original shipping cost that was quoted to me with the preorder will change. If so, I'd like to know because WW requires payment of preorders within 48 hours of receiving their "order filled" email. If the shipping cost does change (probably goes up), I'll need to transfer more money to my Paypal account (the only payment platform WW accepts currently), which takes a few business days. April 18, 2022: Pre-order filled email and payment request received. I paid (using Paypal, shipping cost was the same as quoted when the order was created). Email includes full message about pre-order upgrade. No shipment info yet, I'll update again when it ships and when all parts are received. April 20, 2022: Shipping confirmation from WW. FedEx tracking # received, estimated delivery date 4/25 (but I'll be surprised if it's that quick). Shipping to US. April 26, 2022 All packages received. Shipped to US. 8 days after payment completed (would have been 7, but FedEx was...well, FedEx). Not bad! Happy customer so far. Time from preorder to receipt was 46 days. Feel free to post preorder and shipping times in this thread to compare notes. There's lots of helpful WW tips from fellow customers here too.

The roll axis spring broke on my Orion v1 Joystick Base. Anyone know the dimensions of these springs? Searched high & low, can't find any info on it, only videos & diagrams showing the replacement process. I submitted a ticket through WinWing, they were responsive and said they'll ship a replacement (not sure when). I'd rather not wait for it to arrive from China. Also helpful to know in case of future breaks. Any info is much appreciated.

I've installed my Combat Ready & Flight panels. However, they do not sync to DCS. Is that normal? In SimAPP I chose option "sync" however no changes were made in export.lua. Therefore, I had to manually add the each button/switch/dial to the F-18, and other aircraft. Not a big deal. Aside from that, both panels are working fine and happy customer. Winwing combat ready panel Does it sync, does SimAPP make an export.lua? Can it be used without defining each button press in DCS?

I got my WinWing Orion 2 yesterday and this ist what I experienced. The Engine OFF button is not working properly. It only works if you push the throttle with a force to the last bit of the end. I think the sounds of moving the throttle with the new fingerlift design speaks for its self. The force to overcome the afterburner is differently on the left and right throttle. You need double the force on the left throttle to overcome the AB detend. The fingerlifts are made of plastic and they feel really cheap. In addition they are way to low. You need to change your grip to grab them, what makes them unusable for AB detend. If you increase the friction you are not able to move the throttle freely in one smooth motion. This makes it impossible to make small corrections. So you are forced to use low friction which makes the heavy FA18 throttle fall down and not staying in position.

Right now I'm looking into the Orion F18 HOTAS from Winwing to replace my TM T16000m stick + TWCS throttle. The Orion looks really great and has all the controls I'd need, plus that preorder price on their website is extremely enticing. I just don't want to be left without a HOTAS for too long and I have until July 22nd to return the TM package to Amazon. Does anybody (or Winwing themselves) have an estimate on when the unit would be shipped out & delivered after preordering? Thanks