bin801 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 vote, Mig-21 is best simulation ever had seen, but it need a foe. a declassified F-4 is much easier to be made authentic by LNS team. And it did fight mig-21 head to head so it is the best choice to be made next. without Foe, even I like LNS' Mig-21 most, it can only be my tourist plane.
bin801 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I assume that most people (like me) want the F-4 because of the Vietnam war, and the want to recreate some famous battles. And I don't think that the F-104 ever fought MiG-21s, although I could be mistaken. MY dream for DCS is to recreate Vietnam war. because all those aircrafts are totally declassified, so easy to be made authentic. For simulation, I prefer authentic much more than advanced tech, and authentic is DCS' key. and I even dream to have a 3rd party scenery, Vietnam. jungle next to jungle, hut next to hut, and not so large territory. many will like it, and it will open a new era for galaxy new DCS aircraft models. I already have that picture in my mind:D:pilotfly:
bin801 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Does USAF have a fighter with head air intake and with small radar in intake cone? that will be better than F-4 for Mig21 as a Foe. a Vietnam era will be great. of course, it need to be authentic as Mig21. authentic is the first need, then Mig21's Foe, then Vietnam War era
Golo Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Does USAF have a fighter with head air intake and with small radar in intake cone? that will be better than F-4 for Mig21 as a Foe. a Vietnam era will be great. of course, it need to be authentic as Mig21. authentic is the first need, then Mig21's Foe, then Vietnam War era You are probably thinking about F-8 Crusader.
ghostdog688 Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 F-4 Phantom Who Wants it Poll That or the a7 - often confused for each other. Or it could be the f100 - also a great choice
tsb47 Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Of the US Vietnam era planes, I'd love to see (in this order): 1. F-4 Phantom 2. F-105 Thunderchief 3. A-4 Skyhawk 3. F-100 Super Sabre 4. F-8 Crusader 5. A-7 Corsair II 6. A-1 Skyraider But even just the F-4E would well and truly make my day. Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit | i7-4790K@4GHz | 8GB RAM | GTX970 347.52
Priller Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Of the US Vietnam era planes, I'd love to see (in this order): 1. F-4 Phantom 2. F-105 Thunderchief 3. A-4 Skyhawk 3. F-100 Super Sabre 4. F-8 Crusader 5. A-7 Corsair II 6. A-1 Skyraider But even just the F-4E would well and truly make my day. The A-4 got cancelled The F-8 and A-7 would be nice as well as the Sandy. The F-100 would fit into early Vietnam nicely as well. Just need a flying Golly for rescue missions. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ghostdog688 Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 The huey would make a fine stand-in. Now the Thud for DCS? that would make my day. TBH, any of that last would be awesome, but as an adversary to the mig, a -100 or -8 would be acceptable if multi-pit isn't gonna happen. Of course once-multi-crew truly works, the phantom or F105G (the wild weasel varient) would be great fun
Chipwich Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Not just any Phantom, but the E model of course. Dad with his CC back in the day. Man, look at those ROCKETS! R7 5800X3D / 64GB / MOZA AB9 Base / TIANHANG F-16 Grip / VPC T-50CM3 Throttle / Ace Flight Pedals / RTX 4080 Super / Meta Quest 3
Chipwich Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Does USAF have a fighter with head air intake and with small radar in intake cone? that will be better than F-4 for Mig21 as a Foe. a Vietnam era will be great. of course, it need to be authentic as Mig21. authentic is the first need, then Mig21's Foe, then Vietnam War era Here you go. Check the sample pages linked and run down to the Appendix for Mig-21 victories over the F-4. They were both very worthy opponents IMO. On the other hand, Olds' Operation Bolo is said to have reduced the number of 21's by 50%. Regardless, books detailing victories on either side are replete with F-4 vs. Mig-21 engagements. R7 5800X3D / 64GB / MOZA AB9 Base / TIANHANG F-16 Grip / VPC T-50CM3 Throttle / Ace Flight Pedals / RTX 4080 Super / Meta Quest 3
Angelthunder Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 I'm sure well get the Phantom II sometime in the future.It's obvious knowing how popular the aircraft is.I just think DCS and other third parties are waiting for multi-crew and better AI to work first before we get something like that.As for which variant to start first,i'll go either B,C or E variant first then later J and G models.:thumbup:
Robin_Hood Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 I'm sure well get the Phantom II sometime in the future.It's obvious knowing how popular the aircraft is.I just think DCS and other third parties are waiting for multi-crew and better AI to work first before we get something like that.As for which variant to start first,i'll go either B,C or E variant first then later J and G models.:thumbup: An F-4G would be very interesting if DCS starts getting a good electronic warfare modeling. Otherwise not so good I guess. 2nd French Fighter Squadron
ChoSeungWan Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 c'mon leatherneck, lead the multi-crew revolution :thumbup:
AceRevo Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) From facebook PM: Hello Ace , I'm Antonio from Italy . Nice to meet you and Merry Christmas . I've read your comment on RAZBAM page about A-7. Well , I'm co-founder of Flying Quixote software and we' are building too A-7 Corsair for DCS and FSX . Visit us whit your friends and follow our page .... You're all welcome Same conversation after some chitchat back and forth.. Thank you Ace , follw us , thanks a lot, We've also a WIP of F-4B/J Phantom .... Edit: this conversation took place early february 2015 And he got to know how Im all about DCS :) Edited February 25, 2015 by AceRevo X-55 profile for the F-15C
Krunkskimo Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Why F-4 When you could get the F-8? wouldn't those be the real rivals?
Mike Busutil Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Because the F-8 is ugly and the F-4 is beautiful :P Also because F-4... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Because the F-8 is ugly and the F-4 is beautiful :P Also because F-4... Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
WinterH Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 I take issue with this whole pistols at dawn thing when people don't agree a point of view. Obviuosly, it should, instead be swords as a real, manly duel needs to be! :P Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 I take issue with this whole pistols at dawn thing when people don't agree a point of view. Obviuosly, it should, instead be swords as a real, manly duel needs to be! :P But, the F-8 is known as the last gun fighter, is it not? Seems more appropriate to me. :thumbup: Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
ghostdog688 Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 The f-8 achieves close parity performance wise to the mig 21, but the f4 I think has greater appeal because it can be so much more diverse and appeals to many different preferred roles - it has performed Naval and AIr force, can be mid-air refuelled, is capable if deploying a wide range of ordinance, from bombs, rockets and gun pods, guided missiles to PGMs and ARMs as well as fox 1/2/3 (model dependant of course). It has been used by Some of the major airforces present in this community (USA, UK and Germany are all full of flight sim fanatics, to name just a few), and are still in use to this day in some countries. It's great news not just in terms of the modelling, but the skinners, and adds more naval aircraft to the inventory for those who want the extra challenge of catching a wire. Fair to say that the challenge in flying the Rhino will be at least as tough as making it for sure, but being able to make use of the upcoming multiseat work developing by ED via the L39 will pave the way for many great aircraft. Once the work is underlined, we can truly entertain aircraft like the a6, the f111, the -105... Surely even tankers (with a human boom operator) and other vehicles such as tanks and ships (multi crew tanks, SAM sites, even the carriers)... The opportunities go on and on and on... I just hope they can beef up the networking code to handle this on MP.
theropod Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) actually if you look the first flight year, f-4 is not rival for mig. but f-106 delta dart can be equal Edited March 2, 2015 by theropod
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 actually if you look the first flight year, f-4 is not rival for mig. but f-106 delta dart can be equal I'd buy it. I'd buy any century series, though. Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
theropod Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 I'd buy it. I'd buy any century series, though. one day i wish to see f-101 vodoo on my dcs menu:)
SirEarl Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 I would buy it as long as they finish the f14 first. Overall, Im looking forward towards the f18c, f14, and f16c.
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