Joystick/Pedals Curves for the D-9

[Tales Ernst C.]

What is your joystick/pedals curves for the D-9? Do you use the full range response curves?

[jimcarrel]

Haven't used curves in years, even with the choppers. Did at very first, but dropped them pretty quickly.

[leafer]

Get a piece of aluminum tube, 10" oughta be enough, extend your stick and curve be gone. :) A whole new flying experience right there for you.

[fastfreddie]

Dropped all curves a while ago but you may want to put a slight rudder curve setting so it's easier to keep on the ball.

[Bucic]

Joystick configuration tips and advices

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=985926

[Grundar]

I'm using a twist stick for my rudder so I throw in a dead-zone and a slight curve just to balance out any unintentional twisting while maneuvering.

 

Joystick Axis wise I have a small deadzone (mainly because the X55 doesn't have it's own deadzones preset like many joysticks do) and gentle curves on both pitch and roll.

 

Just helps iron out the input a little, I'm supposing that I could do without the curvature without too many problems, with the X55 I think the dead-zones are required though, would have to look in my Dora Real settings to see what the numbers are.

[Phantom453]

Just learning the FW 190 ATM, so I do have a 15 curve on the rudders at the moment (mainly for the landing I find) I'll remove it once I have a better feel for this aircraft.

 

As mentioned above, I have a 9 cm extension on my Warthog joystick, so definitely no need for curves there.

[Bucic]

Just learning the FW 190 ATM, so I do have a 15 curve on the rudders at the moment (mainly for the landing I find) I'll remove it once I have a better feel for this aircraft.

 

As mentioned above, I have a 9 cm extension on my Warthog joystick, so definitely no need for curves there.

Just be aware that it will take time for your brain to re-adjust to the new conditions. For some time you'll be 'a mom aiming with the mouse cursor for the icon' again ;)

[airdoc]

It depends on the joystick that you use and the type of flying you that you prefer.

 

Initially I used an extension for the warthog, but I switched back because although it was more accurate, it made me perform worse in dogfights (took longer time to make sudden and full deflection in ailerons).

 

For standard length warthog, for the Dora I use 13 curve in pitch and 10 in roll axis.

For saitek pro flight rudder pedals i use 20 curve with 4 deadzone for all warbirds up to now.

 

If you tend to fly formation a lot without an extension, a curve in pitch will make a big difference (and for the P51, an uneven user *throttle* curve can make a tremendous difference -at least that was the case for me)

 

cheers

Edited December 24, 2014 by airdoc

[Yurgon]

What is your joystick/pedals curves for the D-9? Do you use the full range response curves?

 

Personally, I've used a curve of 15 for pitch, roll and yaw for each module pretty much since I started flying DCS, including jets, rotaries and WWII props. Everything else (saturation, deadzones etc) left at default.

 

In case I install an extension to the Warthog, I'll get rid of the pitch and roll curve, but for now that's what works best for me.

 

I'd say you should experiment a bit and see what works best for you.

[leafer]

Initially I used an extension for the warthog, but I switched back because although it was more accurate, it made me perform worse in dogfights (took longer time to make sudden and full deflection in ailerons).

 

 

I was the same way and was a bit frustrated. It felt odd after having spent 19 years using joystick curves, but that is the beauty of a simple extension. My garbage joystick is just as precise as any grade A stick out there. Your airplane responds to even minute movements and those minute movements be minute. You just have to undo years of flying with curves. I assume you don't get instant response in a real WWII aircraft either.

[Suchacz]

I use curvature=15 for pitch and roll, and my own curve for the rudder for lower sensitivity during flight, screen added.

[Bucic]

I use curvature=15 for pitch and roll, and my own curve for the rudder for lower sensitivity during flight, screen added.

Most odd choice for the outward range I could have imagined :huh:

[Suchacz]

Most odd choice for the outward range I could have imagined :huh:

Your imagination is one side of the coin, did you try my setup to see the other side? :smilewink:

 

Those outer boundaries are used only during taxiing...

Edited December 25, 2014 by Suchacz

[ctguy1955]

OK, so I just got a new TM Warthog Hotas and when flying the Dora, I have to constantly

keep a LOT of pressure on the stick to the left in order to get the Dora to fly straight.

 

Can someone please tell me what I can do to change this ? Can I use some sort of

curve or anything that will allow the dora to not need constant left pressure ?

 

The Mustang has the ability to do so from the cockpit left side dials, but We know

the Dora only has weight changed for front to back.

 

Thanks for the help !!\

[Art-J]

Well, there's always a fixed, ground-adjustable trim tab on both aileron and rudder. We can simulate their adjustment it in Fw-190 special options tab for a specific power & speed combo You're comfortable with (some "trial and error" is going to be required).

[Sporg]

Well, there's always a fixed, ground-adjustable trim tab on both aileron and rudder. We can simulate their adjustment it in Fw-190 special options tab for a specific power & speed combo You're comfortable with (some "trial and error" is going to be required).

That's only for the 109 you can do that?

[Sporg]

OK, so I just got a new TM Warthog Hotas and when flying the Dora, I have to constantly

keep a LOT of pressure on the stick to the left in order to get the Dora to fly straight.

 

Can someone please tell me what I can do to change this ? Can I use some sort of

curve or anything that will allow the dora to not need constant left pressure ?

 

The Mustang has the ability to do so from the cockpit left side dials, but We know

the Dora only has weight changed for front to back.

 

Thanks for the help !!\

Two things:

 

1. What is your throttle setting?
   After watching Erich Brunotte's interview, I have begun flying with ATA 1.2 in both 190 and 109, that makes them quite agreeable to fly. :)
   It seems to fit well with their trim.
   If you are going full throttle (or just 1.4) you need to put a bit of pressure on the controls to keep her flying straight.
   
2. You can use a little bit of left rudder to keep her straight instead, it lessens the pressure on the stick.
   But that of course depends if you get too much side slip instead, then it is not efficient flying.
   

Btw, I don't use curves at all.

I am using an extension now, but didn't use curves before that one either.

 

Edit:

I just made a test.

When using ATA 1.2 I can almost fly hands off, so, no pressure on the stick there. :)

Edited July 14, 2016 by Sporg

[Art-J]

That's only for the 109 you can do that?

 

Yep, my bad. I recall it was possible via some file editing and thought it was officially added as an option at the same time as in -109. Obviously not. Oh well, maybe one day.

[anlq]

FW-190 trim is weird, because everytime I kick the rudder even slightly, it suddenly moves left or right violently, it seems there is a huge deadzone in the center.

[NeilWillis]

Definitely agree with Yurgon. There is no right answer here, you just need to experiment a little and find what works best for you.

 

The purists will say no curves, and a stick extension definitely gives a lot more precise control, but the bottom line is do what you think feels right for you.

 

15 is a good starting point - on all 3 curves.

 

I have an extension and run with 0/0/0 curves.

[Andy1966]

I have cheap tm hotas x, and just add slight rt rudder with my big toe ... just enough to keep straight. this is correct behavior according to interviews I have read. they said they got used to it at higher power settings and after a while they said it was second nature to them.in combat they didn't notice it because controls were constantly moving anyway

[Zimmerdylan]

Speaking of sticks and rudders: I just got the CH pro rudder pedals. It seems that I cannot assign the toe brakes to it with the 190, or the 109. Is there a way to do this? Am I missing something?

[rrohde]

Funnily enough, I can fly the 109 without curves, while the 190 is way too twitchy for me that way. Have to put a 25 for roll/pitch here.

[Sporg]

Funnily enough, I can fly the 109 without curves, while the 190 is way too twitchy for me that way. Have to put a 25 for roll/pitch here.

Heh, I fly both without curves, and find the 109 more twitchy. :)

 

But I "cheat" also, and get extra input from a Gametrix FFB vibration seat. :)