Leatherneck Simulations Monthly Update - January 2015

[NRG-Vampire]

... I don't even care if it comes without the carrier at start...

 

unfortunately we dont know (yet) how the carrier implementation is going (coming),

not only the 3d model making but the carrier scripting, in-sim behaviour too

so i think it will be task/work of ED and not job of 3rd parties (maybe in 2016 with DCS:Hornet)

 

that was almost 3 years ago:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3597545/1.html

[Slipp]

unfortunately we dont know (yet) how the carrier implementation is going (coming),

not only the 3d model making but the carrier scripting, in-sim behaviour too

so i think it will be task/work of ED and not job of 3rd parties (maybe in 2016 with DCS:Hornet)

 

that was almost 3 years ago:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3597545/1.html

 

Yeah, I agree. It's on ED.

 

 

Leatherneck, just focus on the Tomcat. We'll love you even if you don't make a carrier.

[emg]

As far as the carrier is concerned, 4th gen DCS level fighter is so badly needed that I don't even care if it comes without the carrier at start...

 

I agree. Most F-14 air victories were achieved by land-based F-14A squadrons anyway. By far.

[Eihort]

We don't need no stinking carriers.... or AIM-54... JUST MORE HAWK MISSILES!

 

[jared9191]

Let's not kid ourselves, we need a carrier. It is the Tomcat, she needs her proper home.

 

I'm still willing to wait, and i'll happily fly a land based cat before getting the carrier.

[Scoggs]

I agree. I don't need a carrier right away. It will allow me to have at least one landing that doesn't end in death while learning.

[FlyingHighAU]

Curious, when pilots start learning the tomcat, do they learn from carriers or do they start their tomcat training from an airport?

[SilentGun]

^ air base first (that's what TOPGUN is. the navy's training program)

 

I really wouldn't want to land on a carrier my first flight :)

[EngineerFalcon]

Curious, when pilots start learning the tomcat, do they learn from carriers or do they start their tomcat training from an airport?

 

Can't find my article on the U.S. Navy, but I still have one about the French Aéronavale - and they are actually linked concerning carrier ops.

After six months of basic prop aircraft handling in France, pilots have thirteen months of naval training in the US with both props and their first jet (T-45C). "Carrier" landings are first done on an airstrip, painted like a deck and with approach mirrors. Then you finally have your qualification on an actual carrier.

Afterwards, you "transform" - familiarise with your aircraft - on the ground before taking it out at sea.

 

Edit : Damn... three minutes late.

[FlyingHighAU]

Cool, well in that case, I think we can do without the carrier for a while, while we train ourselves on the F-14. Then by the time we are comfortable with it, the carrier ops might be ready! :)

[NineLine]

Isnt there an base in NTTR that does dry land carrier op training?

 

edit: Not what I was thinking... but there is this:

 

http://theaviationist.com/2013/04/22/fclp/

Edited February 25, 2015 by NineLine

[PFunk1606688187]

I think I remember reading something about French aircraft manufacturers having to use American facilities to test their carrier borne prototypes.

 

Apparently its a thing, but its also a rare thing.

[Woogey]

^ air base first (that's what TOPGUN is. the navy's training program)

 

I really wouldn't want to land on a carrier my first flight :)

TopGun is not what you say it is. Topgun, is an advanced weapons employment school. You will have been trained fully to fly the Tomcat (Now Hornet) and probably have even been on a cruise or two before you ever go to Topgun. Topgun is like a post Graduate school, that not everybody gets to attend. BIO Baranek is releasing a book soon, that you should probably read. -Woog

[Woogey]

Isnt there an base in NTTR that does dry land carrier op training?

 

edit: Not what I was thinking... but there is this:

 

http://theaviationist.com/2013/04/22/fclp/

FALLON NAS is the new (since 1996, when the Marine Corps took over Miramar) home of TopGun Sith. By my calculations it should lie inside the NTTR Map...... just barely. (Far NW corner) I highly doubt it is modeled, otherwise Wags would have previewed it by now.

Edited February 25, 2015 by Woogey

[cichlidfan]

I really wouldn't want to land on a carrier my first flight :)

 

The people that own both the aircraft and the carrier wouldn't want you to, either.

[Vampyre]

(that's what TOPGUN is. the navy's training program)

 

No, Topgun does not really exist as it was represented in the movie anymore. It is now the Naval Strike and Air Warfare Center which teaches more than just Dogfighting and BVR tactics but has expanded to include strike warfare as well.

 

The first time new Navy pilots go to the boat they are flying the T-45 Goshawk. Before they ever get anywhere near the boat they are doing ground school and Field Carrier Landing Practice (FCLP). As far as a specific platform like the F-14 or F/A-18 is concerned, when the Student Naval Aviators graduate and are designated as Naval Aviators they would be assigned to a Fleet Replacement Squadron (FRS) such as VF-101 or VF-124 for the Tomcat or VFA-25, VFA-106, VFA-122, VMFAT-101, or VAQ-129 for the F/A-18A-F or EA-18G. It is at the FRS that the new Naval Aviators will learn the aircraft inside and out and will perform FCLP's and first take the aircraft they will one day be operating in a fleet squadron to the boat. Most Naval Air Stations and their Outlying Fields (OLF) have the capability to perform FCLP's.

 

As far as the NTTR, If it can be expanded upon, I hope to one day have NAS Fallon and associated range complex as well. Oh and Reno Stead Field for some awesome air racing action... I hope I can make it back there this year for the air races.:pilotfly:

[Archaic]

That banner pic in the original post almost looks like a Prowler to me. Not an F-14 or MiG-23.

[Einherjer]

That banner pic in the original post almost looks like a Prowler to me. Not an F-14 or MiG-23.

 

 

 

But it's a F-14 ;)

[emg]

A-6 family has a thin tapered tail boom with tiny elevators, not a fat twin-engined a** with huge elevators.

Edited February 25, 2015 by emg

[RUS38]

Screw the F-14! That will go on the same dusty shelf for me as the A-10 - will never be bought. Mig-23 for the next in mig series!

[Zilch]

Screw the F-14! That will go on the same dusty shelf for me as the A-10 - will never be bought. Mig-23 for the next in mig series!

 

(Throws down gauntlet.)

 

Pistols at dawn, sir!

[Woogey]

Vampyre Knows his stuff. I can't help but think that Fallon would be a great airbase addon for Leatherneck to bring to the NTTR map. I've mentioned this elswhere, but it would complement both the F-14, and the F/A-18C when released. Also would make a good test bed for Leatherneck's scenery development team.

 

Vampyre, Reno Stead is a great idea! Mustang's, Spitfires, Bearcat's and dare I say an LNS Hellcat? -Woog

[Slipp]

Screw the F-14! That will go on the same dusty shelf for me as the A-10 - will never be bought. Mig-23 for the next in mig series!

 

Have your Mig-23 or even Mig-28 if you want. I'll be glad to shoot you down in an inverted 4g dive with my Tomcat. Any day of the week. :pilotfly:

[EngineerFalcon]

Have your Mig-23 or even Mig-28 if you want. I'll be glad to shoot you down in an inverted 4g dive with my Tomcat. Any day of the week. :pilotfly:

 

Hey, no need to get childish. Besides, the Flogger would make an interesting adversary for the Tomcat (Sweep wing, first Russian BVR and Look-down radar) and Leatherneck may have planned it at some point, saying that it shared most of the 21's systems.

[Buckeye]

Hey, no need to get childish.

 

 

I think you missed the part where he was quoting Top Gun.