Valve/HTC Vive Discussion

[average_pilot]

Okay, my steamvr -section says the following:

 

"steamvr" : {

"allowReprojection" : false,

"background" : "E:\\Program files\\Steam\\steamapps\\workshop\\content\\250820\\651285679\\fallout.png",

"showStage" : true

},

 

There is no playaracolor or poweroffonexit... but I assume the "renderTargetMultiplier" : 1.5 should just be added on the line before the bracet, correct?

 

Let's give this a shot...

It looks like only parameters that differ from defaults are in this file.

 

It should look like this:

"steamvr" : {
     "allowReprojection" : false,
     "background" : "E:\\Program files\\Steam\\steamapps\\workshop\\content\\250820  \\651285679\\fallout.png",
     "showStage" : true,
     "renderTargetMultiplier" : 1.5
  },

Don't forget to add the comma after the previous parameter.

 

And you should enable reprojection unless you are sure you are never going to be below 90 fps, which is very unlikely in DCS.

[MikeMikeJuliet]

Right! I need to do some more fine tuning. I got my new GPU yesterday and it runs like a dream. I tried the pixel density on DCS just before I got it, and it works (albeit not with a good framerate). Now I need to get working on getting it to actually run since I now have the horsepower for it.

 

I'll see if enabling the reprojection helps.

 

Thanks again. The whole pixel density has improved my user experience of the device SO much!

[dureiken]

Hi there,

 

I just bought a Vive, waiting for it. I read in some forums that Rift is far better than Vive for DCS, specially about smoothness and gameplay.

 

Is that true ?

 

Thanks

[AldoUSMC]

Hi Duriken,

 

I own a Vive and like it alot. My advice is to scan this and the Rift Threads in this Forum for what people are saying who own BOTH systems. I have read some of them so they are there. You're also going to wade through a lot of folks who have opinions but have never used both... so take it all with a grain of salt. For the Vive I've followed the advice of posters here in the Vive thread for settings to achieve the visuals that are acceptable to me. It will NOT look as hi res as your computer screen... I've read here plenty of folks are able to achieve 45 frames per second... some have achieved 90 fps.

 

You will have to modify your steamvr settings file.... like I said.. do your research/reading here and there are plenty of folks who have posted very helpful "how tos" to get you there.

 

Happy Viving

[funkyfranky]

Is that true ?

Yes, it's true. At least for now. I like the concept of the Vive better (room scale & better tracking system, controllers) but for DCS I only use the rift meanwhile since it is lighter, smoother, faster to get it started up, i.e. not have to wait until the lighthouses sync, and for now more features implemented in DCS (VR zoom, pixel density).

 

However, you will still be blown away by the experience with the Vive and there are lots of threads which explain nicely how you get the most FPS out of it.

 

Plus, whenever I have friends around who are curious about VR, I show them the Vive not the Rift. For me the real VR experience has to have room scale plus the hands in form of the controllers. But that is something one has to experience first hand and people who only have a Rift sometimes don't know what they are missing ;)

[alvmarti]

Hello Windypants... I've was silly enough to get a pascal titan X for my Vive and DCS :-P. However, I still have considerable stutter with it, even lowering the graphics in order to fly the Huey. Is it too much to ask you for a printscreen of your graphics menu in DCS so I can try it in your way??

I would really appreciate your help... since the Titan x is no cheap at all

[CptTangerine]

Hi

 

I thought that I had replied to this, obviously I hadn't.

 

My graphics card is a GTX970.

 

Is reprojection turned on by default?

 

Cheers!

 

CptT

[DBO]

Did anyone follow the news from #steamDevDays that Valve will be adding Asynchronous Time Warp to the Vive soon? I wonder if we'll see any performance benefit for DCS.

[hansangb]

I can't see how it wouldn't help. It makes a huge difference on the Rift. But the new Async Space Warp makes it *way* better. Hopefully, Vive will add in ASW as well.

[hansangb]

Awesome. Then Vive owners are in for a treat. Great to see the market competition kicking in.

[average_pilot]

It's still to become a reality, though.

[DBO]

Can somebody please explain how to operate the glove (Vive Controller) in a cockpit? I tried punching things with the finger, tried clicking all the buttons on the controller, but nothing seems to work. Can someone make a tutorial, or write how to use the Vive controller in the simulator?

 

Thanks

 

You need to punch, then double-click middle button, whilst doing a pinch swipe movement on the control pad. :joystick:

Actually, sorry.. glove has no functionality. We're all waiting with baited breath as to what they'll do with it.

[average_pilot]

I would like to see Eagle Dynamics making the hand gestures visible in the multiplayer. I saw fighter pilots gesturing to each other, or to the pilots which are not responding to the radio calls. In any case, it would add to the realism, just by seeing the other pilots manipulating the controls, and switches in their cockpits. It's those little things which ultimately create the sense of immersion.

In VR I feel like doing hand gestures to other fellow pilots, in fact I do them even knowing that nobody can see me. It will happen sooner or later, though.

[DBO]

Well that didn't take long. Async reprojection is now available in the SteamVR Beta

https://steamcommunity.com/games/250820/announcements/detail/599369548909298226

 

:pilotfly:I'll be giving it a shot tonight, but if anyone has tried it yet let us know how it went with DCS.

[Shrike_AU]

5 mins of testing:

 

how does it work?

 

Night and Day between it and the previous method.

[Kirin]

ASR is the most exciting DCS VR news in a long time! Tell me guys - how does it perform? Is DCS playable in the Vive now?

[PreussLee]

Cant wait to get home to test it out

[DBO]

All I can say is WOW .. totally concur with Shrike_AU - it's a difference like night and day.

Just flew a Huey campaign mission with lots of other traffic which normally brought things to a mess frame wise. Everything was smooth as butter. Absolutely awesome. Can't believe how much they've improved things with this.

[Milopapa]

All I can say is WOW .. totally concur with Shrike_AU - it's a difference like night and day.

Just flew a Huey campaign mission with lots of other traffic which normally brought things to a mess frame wise. Everything was smooth as butter. Absolutely awesome. Can't believe how much they've improved things with this.

 

Interesting... I didn't see a difference between asynchronous and interleaved reprojection in my testing. Both just dropped the framerate to 45fps. Smooth head movement but ghosting on laterally moving objects.

 

 

In fact, when I enabled both, it went down to 30fps which looked pretty awful.

[SneakyBastd]

Another one here with my jaw dropped to the floor. This is an amazing feature! No wonder the Rift guys were going on about it...

 

Jumped on our server which kills FPS for me (worst case), anywhere from 35-45fps usually. Panning around was laggy and usually made me a little queasy after awhile.

However with AR and IR on, the FPS seemed locked to 30 in stats, if that can be trusted. But, it was beautifully smooth. You could pan your head around without any lag or feeling sick. It just worked, and was a true joy.

I ran it again with just AR, and though the framerate varied from 45-65, it didn't feel any different really. Again, very nice and enjoyable.

 

I put the SS up to 2.0, from 1.5 which I usually ran, and to my surprise it was nice and smooth still. Not much effect on fps that I could tell. I am going to see what else I can turn up now.

 

GET THIS BETA!

[average_pilot]

I may be doing something wrong, because I can't tell the difference after the update :/

I'll test a little bit more.

 

EDIT1: Ok, the difference is huge.

EDIT2: It's working remarkably well indeed. But still 90fps looks a lot better, so I'm not rising settings by now (those nice shadows still out of reach :( ).

Edited October 26, 2016 by average_pilot

[Kirin]

I may be doing something wrong, because I can't tell the difference after the update :/

I'll test a little bit more.

 

EDIT1: Ok, the difference is huge.

EDIT2: It's working remarkably well indeed. But still 90fps looks a lot better, so I'm not rising settings by now (those nice shadows still out of reach :( ).

 

What did you do wrong the first time around?

[PreussLee]

Strange little problem here...when i start dcs when running steamvr beta,it wont start dcs in vr. When i run without beta mode, the ap is turned off then even when the box at asynchrone reprojection is checked.

But i found out when i start dcs before steamvr, so that dcs is starting the steamvr app, then shutdown dcs and restart the vive headset...it works.

So to start dcs in vr atm i have to: Run dcs,end dcs,restart headset,run dcs...

Any ideas whats wrong in my system?

[average_pilot]

What did you do wrong the first time around?

I was overexcited reading all those comments about how powerful the new AR was, so when I reached home I directly put SS at 2.0 and launched DCS 2 (where I can get to 90fps so it's almost abandoned since I had the Vive) and enabled shadows. So, it was running at about 30-45fps and it looked horrible to me. In this first quick test it didn't occur to me to disabled AR completely to see the difference. On the second try I did that and yes, you really can tell how well it's doing its job.

[super2277]

I tried just AWS on and i had supersampling set to 4 (just testing what the highest setting is) and its ****ing nice to see everything crystal clear, but if i tilt the head i can see some choping (only happens in cities in DCS Alpha 2.0) soo maybe supersampling set to 3 is nice

 

Textures is set to High and MSA 4x GPU is GTX 1080

Edited October 27, 2016 by super2277