DCS: F-14A/A+/B by Heatblur Simulations coming to DCS World!

[probad]

aileron roll*

[FWind]

Don't forget about the 675 rounds of cannon ammo.

 

676

[Tirak]

676[ATTACH]142872[/ATTACH][ATTACH]142871[/ATTACH]

 

Meh, close enough, the HUD only counts in hundreds anyway :lol:

[Kirk66]

um. the times the F-5E went against Mig-21s (and others) they did quite well.

 

Look up the Ethiopian vs Somali conflict.

 

F-5s totally slayed the Migs...

 

I know which plane I would want to be in.. and I've been fortunate to fight both in friendly combat (in F-4Es).

 

Kirk

[FWind]

Meh, close enough, the HUD only counts in hundreds anyway :lol:

 

:megalol:

[Hummingbird]

um. the times the F-5E went against Mig-21s (and others) they did quite well.

 

Look up the Ethiopian vs Somali conflict.

 

F-5s totally slayed the Migs...

 

I know which plane I would want to be in.. and I've been fortunate to fight both in friendly combat (in F-4Es).

 

Kirk

 

Seems to be the story most times a western aircraft met an eastern one, thus I have a feeling that pilot quality played a rather important role :)

 

That having been said the F-5E is definitely more maneuverable, however without radar guided missiles in DCS it's going to be severely handicapped.

[Cool Breeze]

I found a mildly amusing/scary story about a Tomcat accidentally shooting down an Air Force Phantom during a training exercise in the Med.

 

http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/that-time-a-navy-f-14-accidentally-on-purpose-shot-down-an-air-force-f-4-during-an-exercise

[SkateZilla]

might as well do a D-Variant External and make it AI Only :)

[Darkbrotherhood7]

might as well do a D-Variant External and make it AI Only :)

 

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[Tirak]

I found a mildly amusing/scary story about a Tomcat accidentally shooting down an Air Force Phantom during a training exercise in the Med.

 

http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/that-time-a-navy-f-14-accidentally-on-purpose-shot-down-an-air-force-f-4-during-an-exercise

 

Poor bastard getting his career ruined because Saratoga's comms were sloppy.

[Cool Breeze]

I wouldn't exactly say he had his career ruined by anyone but himself. When you have a visually confirmed friendly aircraft in front of you, during a training exercising mind you, I would question his decision making skills in a high performance fighter. I'm not saying the orders couldn't have been clearer, but friendly fire isn't friendly. Besides seems like he landed a pretty cushy job because he has family in high places. Making it all the way to Captain? He's lucky he wasn't court marshalled and thrown out of the navy.

[Tirak]

I wouldn't exactly say he had his career ruined by anyone but himself. When you have a visually confirmed friendly aircraft in front of you, during a training exercising mind you, I would question his decision making skills in a high performance fighter. I'm not saying the orders couldn't have been clearer, but friendly fire isn't friendly. Besides seems like he landed a pretty cushy job because he has family in high places. Making it all the way to Captain? He's lucky he wasn't court marshalled and thrown out of the navy.

 

He was given permission to engage as for a war scenario, not as though it were an exercise. He flies a Tomcat, defender of the fleet, which means when he gets word from home plate to the effect of "Kill this sucker, dead, now, before he kills us" he reacted the way a fighter pilot should have. There's a reason why training uses very specific language these days, and it's stupid incidents like this that are the reason. The fault lies with Saratoga's exercise procedure at the time.

 

He was shuffled to a desk job and denied an advance to flag rank.

[Cool Breeze]

Well regardless where the blame "should" have gone the guy made a decision that nearly killed two fellow aviators. He made his decision and got hammered for it. The guy stayed in the Navy for twenty plus years. I'll honor him for sticking with it and living with a decision that would haunt me.

[jester_]

He was given permission to engage as for a war scenario, not as though it were an exercise. He flies a Tomcat, defender of the fleet, which means when he gets word from home plate to the effect of "Kill this sucker, dead, now, before he kills us" he reacted the way a fighter pilot should have. There's a reason why training uses very specific language these days, and it's stupid incidents like this that are the reason. The fault lies with Saratoga's exercise procedure at the time.

 

He was shuffled to a desk job and denied an advance to flag rank.

 

On the one hand, I agree that the Saratoga's comms weren't exactly clear.

 

On the other hand, if you are in range to fire a sidwinder, you are in range to see what you are shooting. Dorsey, as a professional fighter pilot knowingly engaged in a training exercise, should have had the decision making capabilities to not fire on the Phantom.

[CapableJet7]

But the F-14A support the Multicrew?

[bC3660]

But the F-14A support the Multicrew?

 

Yes, from what I have read.

[lunaticfringe]

Poor bastard getting his career ruined because Saratoga's comms were sloppy.

 

He had his career ruined because he was an imbecile. He was appropriately briefed, and comms were the same as always for *any* event- training or war. His career was saved because his daddy was an admiral.

 

And he was *this* close to making admiral, when the system told him to go screw for his being an imbecile in the F-4 shootdown, coupled with his involvement with high-interest rate shopping for US servicemen- ie, a scam.

 

Timothy Dorsey's career survived because of his old man. It ended because he was a low class moron.

[Top Jockey]

He had his career ruined because he was an imbecile. He was appropriately briefed, and comms were the same as always for *any* event- training or war. His career was saved because his daddy was an admiral.

 

And he was *this* close to making admiral, when the system told him to go screw for his being an imbecile in the F-4 shootdown, coupled with his involvement with high-interest rate shopping for US servicemen- ie, a scam.

 

Timothy Dorsey's career survived because of his old man. It ended because he was a low class moron.

 

Hello lunaticfringe,

 

Read about that "incident" a couple years ago.

Even today I don't understand how something like that really happened, if he was appropriately briefed:

 

- Did he at some point failed to understand he was in a training environment, and thought he was shooting at a real life enemy aircraft ?

 

- Did he over sighted some switches ? ( MasterArm switch: ON ? )

[lunaticfringe]

When someone says it was a communications issue, or a briefing issue, or some other mitigating factor, it is undermined by the fact that nobody else in the wing shot anybody.

 

That nobody else in any fleet shot somebody by the same terms.

 

Failure doesn't immediately dictate that the process is incorrect. And not every process can, or should, be conformed to fit with every individual mindset.

 

I was reminded of this by a poster somewhere else claiming to have been on the accident board- stating that the concern was found in Dorsey having been reprimanded for being slow to act in a similar training situation, and that his mental state may have been degraded both by this, and the belief in a potential "rogue pilot".

 

Doesn't matter. He wasn't given the directive to go *live* and shoot. He was simply told to shoot- meaning function based on the terms briefed.

[Top Jockey]

When someone says it was a communications issue, or a briefing issue, or some other mitigating factor, it is undermined by the fact that nobody else in the wing shot anybody.

 

That nobody else in any fleet shot somebody by the same terms.

 

Failure doesn't immediately dictate that the process is incorrect. And not every process can, or should, be conformed to fit with every individual mindset.

 

I was reminded of this by a poster somewhere else claiming to have been on the accident board- stating that the concern was found in Dorsey having been reprimanded for being slow to act in a similar training situation, and that his mental state may have been degraded both by this, and the belief in a potential "rogue pilot".

 

Doesn't matter. He wasn't given the directive to go *live* and shoot. He was simply told to shoot- meaning function based on the terms briefed.

 

Certainly not knowing the guy, but judging on this, one gets to think maybe he didn't have the "profile" to be a fighter pilot.

 

Sometimes it is what it is.

[Drag0nWIng]

Now it's the first day of second half 2016, wish you guys have a happy summer(maybe winter on south?). LOL

[Drexx]

Who's looking forward to recreating this, one of the most iconic movie openings of all time

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[Abburo]

Yes, but not in DCS... deck crue cannot be simulated at all :)... maybe in Arma :D

[Mike Busutil]

Yes, but not in DCS... deck crue cannot be simulated at all :)... maybe in Arma :D

 

:book:

 

"We’ve also begun in creating all the required props, crew and other assets required for a full carrier complement.

The deck crew will of course wear appropriate equipment and colours for their assigned role.

We hope to add a library of animations to our deck crew as well; to keep the flight deck lively and interesting."

 

"We've completed modeling of our flight deck crew; and will be modifying this base to suit all of the various crew you'd find on a busy carrier flight deck."

 

"As mentioned in the last update, our goal is to try and include as many deck animations as we possibly can. Of course, it's quite possible that this particular feature will not launch together with the carrier or aircraft.

However, that has not stopped us taking our first steps with Motion Capture."

 

"Here's a rough capture (pre-cleanup) of one of the many animation sequences we'll be looking to recreate"

 

Leatherneck Simulations

 

 

 

 

[Raven68]

 

 

I can't get enough of this capture here!