DCS: F-14A/A+/B by Heatblur Simulations coming to DCS World!

[SkateZilla]

Well as you said yourself there are about half a dozen with their guts intact in military storage somewhere, so if they are kept intact for the next 20-40 years, then who's to say someone won't evetnually be able to copy & reproduce the parts that are in scarce supply with what'ever advances we will have in industry by then? AFAIK reproduction technology has come quite a way the last decade, so much so I've heard talk of 100% repros of WW2 fighter engines thanks to 3D printed casts etc...

 

As for the processors, well the beauty of digital data is that you can copy it and use it on different digital devices (processors), same as we can play old Nintendo 64 games on our new super computers :) (not saying it will be that simply btw, but I'm confident you'll be able to copy the data)

 

Anyway I have hope we will see this bird up and flying again in the future.

 

 

I seriously doubt you can jury rig a tomcat w/ an Avionics Emulator...

 

F-22As are already having a hard time finding processors, and they are significantly newer than the F-14Bs Processors.

 

By Half Dozen Airworthy, I mean BuNos w/ Less Airframe Fatigue and Flight hours, no one knows the state of the internal components..

 

 

The only way You'll see a F-14 in the U.S. is if someone builds a 1:1 RC Jet.

[VTJS17_Fire]

The only way you'll see a private F-14 is in the hands of someone that buys it off Iran when they give up trying to maintain and retrofit them and sell them all off.

 

Two or three years ago, I read in a German magazine (Flieger Revue, IIRC), that the Iranian were supported by the Russians, to bring up their Tomcats with modern software, avionics and weapons. And they used a great part of their former F-14 fleet as spare part source.

[carss]

Trust me, you wont see a Tomcat in private hands emerge from any in the U.S., too many parts were removed, and don't have replacements.

 

The Processors Alone, are not Fabricated anymore, and there are no Extras, they were all destroyed. So if a Single Processor Fails, the Jet is worthless.

 

The only way you'll see a private F-14 is in the hands of someone that buys it off Iran when they give up trying to maintain and retrofit them and sell them all off.

 

Even then, the investor would likely have to buy several, just to get enough parts to get one flying and have enough spare parts to maintain.

 

 

F-14s were Complex and high maintenance, they were not simple aircraft, parts failed all the time,

 

You simply cannot take ONE or TWO F-14s out of the Museums, Fill up all the empty fluid tanks, perform a 1 time maintenance check, start her up and expect to continue operating it without any other spare parts.

 

That's the Reason you wont see any U.S. F-14s Flying in Private Hands, because there are only MAYBE half a dozen even remotely close to being restored to any type of airworthy status.

 

You might one day see an Iran F-14 in Private hands converted back to U.S. Colors and Avionics, but I doubt it, it would take extensive amounts of investments and labor to even restore one to U.S. Operating Standards.

 

The U.S. Government went as far as removing any F-14 Compatible parts from any stored F-111s.

 

 

 

There is a possibility that when Iran phases out their F-14s to have them replaced, they might give a few of them off to private people with enough money.

[SkateZilla]

Two or three years ago, I read in a German magazine (Flieger Revue, IIRC), that the Iranian were supported by the Russians, to bring up their Tomcats with modern software, avionics and weapons. And they used a great part of their former F-14 fleet as spare part source.

 

Yes, the F-14AMs use Russian Parts and Support/Engineers.

 

 

There is a possibility that when Iran phases out their F-14s to have them replaced, they might give a few of them off to private people with enough money.

 

By time any F-14s become available to private investors, the spare parts would likely be gone.

 

Another Major Blocking Issue, is Humans, How many people will be trained to Operate and Maintain the Aircraft whenever this day comes....

[Mking]

:joystick:Any news ? Screenshots ?:cry:

[boedha68]

:joystick:Any news ? Screenshots ?:cry:

 

Yeah, i want to know too. The F-14 must be in the final stage now. :D

[QuiGon]

:joystick:Any news ? Screenshots ?:cry:

 

Nope, it's Viggen time with the revelation of the Viggen comming up :joystick:

[2BAG_Inferno]

Any news?

[Coyote Duster]

We're all going through hype withdrawals, we just gotta bite our lips and ride the waves until the glorious tomcat is unleashed. When it is released I'm going to enjoy flaming viggens only because they saw entry to dcs first XD

[Silver_Dragon]

Meanwhile ED / Leatherneck dont put a preorder (2-3 month early), ED dont tell about internal testing, and ED dont put them on a official news, dont speculate with a QX 2017 release.

[Xenovia]

GIB. F-14. plz </3

[BIGNEWY]

Guys, post, get hyped, be friends. no drama

 

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[Taco Man]

I cant wait for the F-14! It will be a very quick buy for myself. I just know I'll be spending my day taking off and landing over and over again. :pilotfly:

[Coyote Duster]

I cant wait for the F-14! It will be a very quick buy for myself. I just know I'll be spending my day taking off and landing over and over again. :pilotfly:

 

Would be interesting in rough seas at night......

[Mking]

Viggen hunting tomcats ... i hope can see

[Reflected]

I`m soooo angry at Viggens for being a priority over the Tomcat :D

 

I`m afraid we won`t see the F-14 before this time next year, but I hope I`m wrong. I think the F-14 is THE most popular jet of all times. So now it`s like having to sit through a painfully long Nickelback concert to finally see ACDC on stage :D

[Agremont]

I`m soooo angry at Viggens for being a priority over the Tomcat :D

 

I`m afraid we won`t see the F-14 before this time next year, but I hope I`m wrong. I think the F-14 is THE most popular jet of all times. So now it`s like having to sit through a painfully long Nickelback concert to finally see ACDC on stage :D

 

I like Viggens more than Tomcats. *runs*

[lemoen]

Soooo. The F14 doesn't have IFF. So MP be like:

 

1. F-14 spike on RWR

2. Sh1t!!

3. Go defensive

4. Oh, was friendly

5. Go to 1.

[crow0827]

Soooo. The F14 doesn't have IFF. So MP be like:

 

1. F-14 spike on RWR

2. Sh1t!!

3. Go defensive

4. Oh, was friendly

5. Go to 1.

 

...?

in the F-14B's pocket checklist.

some "IFF" is founded in circuit breaker names and procedures.

 

in addtion, F-14D manual Chapter 21.1.1 is IFF Transponder.

what evidence of "The F14 doesn't have IFF"?

[lemoen]

...?

in the F-14B's pocket checklist.

some "IFF" is founded in circuit breaker names and procedures.

 

in addtion, F-14D manual Chapter 21.1.1 is IFF Transponder.

what evidence of "The F14 doesn't have IFF"?

 

 

From wiki:

F14 page

"The participation of the F-14 in the 1991 Operation Desert Storm consisted of Combat Air Patrol (CAP) over the Red Sea and Persian Gulf and overland missions consisting of strike escort and reconnaissance. Until the waning days of Desert Storm, in-country air superiority was tasked to USAF F-15 Eagles due to the way the Air Tasking Orders (ATO) delegated primary overland CAP stations to the F-15 Eagle. The governing Rules of Engagement (ROE) also dictated a strict Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) requirement when employing Beyond Visual Range weapons such as the AIM-7 Sparrow and particularly the AIM-54 Phoenix. This hampered the Tomcat from using its most powerful weapon. Furthermore, the powerful emissions from the AWG-9 radar are detectable at great range with a radar warning receiver. Iraqi fighters routinely retreated as soon as the Tomcats "lit them up" with the AWG-9"

 

 

AIM-54C page:

 

"Despite the much-vaunted capabilities, the Phoenix was rarely used in combat, with only two confirmed launches and no confirmed targets destroyed in US Navy service, though a large number of kills were claimed by Iranian F-14s during the Iran–Iraq War. The USAF F-15 Eagle had responsibility for overland combat air patrol duties in Operation Desert Storm in 1991, primarily because of the onboard F-15 IFF capabilities. The Tomcat did not have the requisite IFF capability mandated by the JFACC to satisfy the rules of engagement to utilize the Phoenix capability at beyond visual range. The AIM-54 was not adopted by any foreign nation besides Iran, or any other US armed service, and was not used on any aircraft other than the F-14."

 

The later models maybe had IFF, like the D, as you point out.

[crow0827]

uhm...?

http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-cp-a-rio.htm

it says not only later version, but also F-14A's copilot seat has IFF Transponder Control Panel and IFF Antenna Ant & Test Panel.

I think that using great detecable range and long range missile without IFF is crazy. Isn't it?

[lemoen]

uhm...?

http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-cp-a-rio.htm

it says not only later version, but also F-14A's copilot seat has IFF Transponder Control Panel and IFF Antenna Ant & Test Panel.

I think that using great detecable range and long range missile without IFF is crazy. Isn't it?

 

 

That IFF may be a responder that tells other aircraft not to shoot you. The F-14A radar may have not had the ability to determine whether a contact is friendly or not. That info probably came from the AWACS instead. Im guessing here. I'm not disagreeing with you.

 

Also, it may seem crazy to not have IFF but as you can see, the USN had the long range missiles for decades and never used them, so maybe not such a big deal in reality. In a sim environment though, where everyday it is the apocalypse, its a different story :D

[firmek]

Could be that F-14 had an IFF equipment but with limited capability - for example only the transmitter but with limited or without a possibility to interrogate radar contacts.

On the other hand if this is the case it'll be an "interesting" experience on the MP servers. Especially those that are already a mess due to "all" aircrafts on both sides (which is kind of majority at the moment).

[lemoen]

Yeah exactly. And even on something like Blue Flag, we're likely to see F-14 on both Red and Blue sides (much like the Mirage is on both). Should be fun. Can't wait to take the bombcat for a spin :-)

[grunf]

F-14A is equipped with AN/APX-76 IFF interrogator.

 

F-14A Manual, page 7-46