Next aircraft speculation

[mattebubben]

Eurofighter looks just like a Mig 1.44. I almost consider it a Russian aircraft. :smilewink:

 

Despite the fact that the Eurofighter Predates the Mig 1.44?...

 

:smartass:

 

So if anything the Mig 1.44 looks like the Eurofighter in wich case you could consider it british (the eurofighter started as a british design = BEA-EAP)?

 

 

But as a swede i like to consider all Deltas with Canards (Mig 1.44, Eurofighter,Rafael) etc swedish since the Saab Viggen was the first modern (Jet) fighter with Canards and as such all such aircraft should be considerd swedish ^^ :angel:

Edited September 18, 2015 by mattebubben

[Toten]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/C-12_Huron_in_flight.jpg

 

Mystery solved.

[RaXha]

Despite the fact that the Eurofighter Predates the Mig 1.44?...

 

:smartass:

 

So if anything the Mig 1.44 looks like the Eurofighter in wich case you could consider it british (the eurofighter started as a british design = BEA-EAP)?

 

 

But as a swede i like to consider all Deltas with Canards (Mig 1.44, Eurofighter,Rafael) etc swedish since the Saab Viggen was the first modern (Jet) fighter with Canards and as such all such aircraft should be considerd swedish ^^ :angel:

 

As a swede i can only agree, i was just about to mention that the Typhoon looks like an ofspring of the Viggen. :lol:

[didilman]

I hope to know what is the next aircraft before the 25. :)

[Krupi]

Despite the fact that the Eurofighter Predates the Mig 1.44?...

 

:smartass:

 

So if anything the Mig 1.44 looks like the Eurofighter in wich case you could consider it british (the eurofighter started as a british design = BEA-EAP)?

 

 

But as a swede i like to consider all Deltas with Canards (Mig 1.44, Eurofighter,Rafael) etc swedish since the Saab Viggen was the first modern (Jet) fighter with Canards and as such all such aircraft should be considerd swedish ^^ :angel:

 

If anything they are all copies of...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_Ye-8

 

:music_whistling:

[didilman]

If anything they are all copies of...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_Ye-8

 

:music_whistling:

 

Why russia cancel that? :noexpression:

Original typhoon.

[mattebubben]

Why russia cancel that? :noexpression:

Original typhoon.

 

well one reason might be that one of the prototypes decided to explode at mach 2.15 (engine exploded forcing the pilot to eject at mach 1.78 )

 

The russians where ofc not advanced enough to master the Delta Canard design :smartass:

 

But then again its not a Tailless delta design like the eurofighter, Viggen Etc.

 

(Ofc Tailless and not wingless =P xD)

 

And i thought we where all trolling...

Edited September 19, 2015 by mattebubben

[Dudikoff]

The russians where ofc not advanced enough to master the Delta Canard design :smartass:

 

But then again its not a wingless delta design like the eurofighter, Viggen Etc.

 

Care to elaborate on that not advanced enough part?

 

Wingless? I presume you mean tailles?

[Krupi]

Ignore him, blatant trolling! :doh:

[didilman]

well one reason might be that one of the prototypes decided to explode at mach 2.15 (engine exploded forcing the pilot to eject at mach 1.78 )

 

The russians where ofc not advanced enough to master the Delta Canard design :smartass:

 

But then again its not a Tailless delta design like the eurofighter, Viggen Etc.

 

(Ofc Tailless and not wingless =P xD)

 

And i thought we where all trolling...

 

Dont worry buddy. :)

Im cool , but I more think they cancel due to financial issue , the only thing that prevent aviation to fix a problem. :smilewink:

[assafm25]

I can tell u one thing for sure.

 

Its not going to be the MIRGE 2000 !!!

 

:)

[Cool Breeze]

I can tell u one thing for sure.

 

Its not going to be the MIRGE 2000 !!!

 

:)

:megalol::thumbup:

Very nice skins by the way!:smilewink:

[Cool Breeze]

Why WW2? Most Cold War aircrafts are also unclassified today.

 

About the importance of accurate simulation: I guess we have different opinions here, but that's fine :)

For me an aircraft in DCS has to be as accurate as it can get within the framework of DCS. Classification prevents the devs from doing so, so I would rather not have such an aircraft at all, since it would be build upon second guessing how the systems work. I just don't like that, but I can understand if you don't see it that way and rather have an aircraft as close as possible to reality than not having it at all :)

Unfortunately, I doubt it's as simple as aircraft being declassified. Developers also have to deal with the copyright and licensing issues of the manufacturers! VEAO had to put a hold on the A-4 because they had trouble coming to a beneficial agreement with McDonnell/Douglas/Boeing. The Rafael was yanked from another sim because Dassault, I believe, dropped the copyright issue on their heads. Classification is only a part of it.:(

[Solty]

To me systems can be simplified, but FM has to be top notch. And give it a good enough DM to make things flow. Ballistics should be taken into consideration as well.

 

In a combat flight sim two things are vital. Flight and combat.

[Capn kamikaze]

I'm pretty sure it won't be a Su-30. One reason is, that the new plane is supposed to also have "New or unique methods of propulsion or force distribution", which the Su-30 doesn't have.

 

Sounds like they're talking about thrust vectoring, which leaves only a few options, the Su-35S or Su-30MKI.

Edited September 20, 2015 by Cap'n kamikaze

[Brisse]

Sounds like they're talking about thrust vectoring' date=' which leaves only a few options, the Su-35S or MKI.[/quote']

 

"New or unique methods of propulsion or force distribution" doesn't necessarily mean the same thing that we normally think of as thrust vectoring though. It could just as well be the thrust vectoring used for vertical takeoff and landing on the Harrier, or the reverse thruster on the Viggen.

[RNeves]

Did any of the carrier based fighters from WWII have reverse thrust? I never heard of one but...

 

I just keep thinking about that update from LNS that had an image of a WWII carrier with a kamikaze flag

[RaXha]

Did any of the carrier based fighters from WWII have reverse thrust? I never heard of one but...

 

I just keep thinking about that update from LNS that had an image of a WWII carrier with a kamikaze flag

 

Well they apparently have two separate unanounced modules, one of which then might be japanese. :-)

[thaisocom]

Sounds like they're talking about thrust vectoring' date=' which leaves only a few options, the Su-35S or Su-30MKI.[/quote']

I'd love to have either or even both. However, I highly doubt that Su-35S will be possible as a DCS level module(It might be possible for FC3 level tho.). It is quite new and highly classified aircraft. If they are going to do Su-30MK it might be possible. :joystick:

[kolga]

The SU-35S would be incomprehensibly amazing... One can dream. :)

[OnlyforDCS]

To me systems can be simplified, but FM has to be top notch. And give it a good enough DM to make things flow. Ballistics should be taken into consideration as well.

 

In a combat flight sim two things are vital. Flight and combat.

 

Judging by the Mig21's FM, I don't think thats going to be a problem, whatever LN decides to do. :thumbup:

 

(Give us the damn Viggen annoucement already :) )

[BlackLion213]

Judging by the Mig21's FM, I don't think thats going to be a problem, whatever LN decides to do. :thumbup:

 

(Give us the damn Viggen annoucement already :) )

 

Except it's not supposed to be announced till after their other module, which is part of a larger project: DCS WWII PTO (pacific theater of operations). ;)

 

Can't hope for the Viggen till next month...

 

-Nick

[Hiromachi]

Well, if that would be a Zero on board than it would be cool to get Corsair as well, especially the initial model, with so called "Birdcage" - as those were Corsairs Black Sheep was flying in. In my opinion thats also the best looking Corsair model.

[Krupi]

I still have my fingers crossed for a Mig-23 even though I get the impression it will be a Viggen and a WW2 prop.

 

Regardless I expect they will both be pre-ordered :)

[didilman]

I just hope Viggen or Mig-23. One of those 1960-70's airframe.

Edited September 22, 2015 by didilman