Whats Next?

[PiedDroit]

Mmmm Harrier, I so agree with you guys, this aircraft is awesome.

[dartuil]

I hope F-15E.

[Kev2go]

I prefer the F-18C anyway to the F-16 so for me the question is already answered

 

 

youd probably buy both anyways, even if not at the same time.:thumbup:

 

I know i would.

[Harry.R]

I'm just wondering what else makes the AV8B special apart from the guns/radar/engine? The GR.7/9 was night attack as well, and pretty accurate at both night/day bombing & rockets.

Edited December 25, 2015 by Harry.R

[jvanhoog]

Well I just finished listening to the podcast from the 476th, Wow! Harrier, F15E, A7, and the A6 Intruder are coming from RAZBAM. The last three when ED finish their ground radar. Very impressive schedule. Really enjoyed the program, thanks Dojo, and thanks to Ron and Larry Zambrano.

[WinterH]

Mildly interested in Harrier but remaining 3 are stuff I am very, very interested in :).

[SparxOne]

Like i've already said it in the Harrier thread, i am unfortunately not a fan at all of it, probably won't be a buy from me...

 

I know people are fed up of hearing about the F-16 but it's the one and only thing i am really impatient of un this game !

[DrDetroit]

Like i've already said it in the Harrier thread, i am unfortunately not a fan at all of it, probably won't be a buy from me...

 

I know people are fed up of hearing about the F-16 but it's the one and only thing i am really impatient of un this game !

 

Me too...Harrier is the last thing I'd want to see, but oh well. Low and slow I guess. F-16C blk 50 is what is needed. Full fidelity avionics and clickable pit although I'd take a F-16 even with low fidelity avionics. .

 

A-7s...ewww...A-6 might be a good one though - Flight of the Intruder was a good movie.

 

Good day!

 

DrDetroit

[dartuil]

Like i've already said it in the Harrier thread, i am unfortunately not a fan at all of it, probably won't be a buy from me...

 

I know people are fed up of hearing about the F-16 but it's the one and only thing i am really impatient of un this game !

 

 

When I heard harrier is next I said > s**t why not F-15E or tornado, another slow thing<

But i have respect for razbam since i buy m2000c in FSX I know it will be good but not for me.

[Kev2go]

Me too...Harrier is the last thing I'd want to see, but oh well. Low and slow I guess. F-16C blk 50 is what is needed. Full fidelity avionics and clickable pit although I'd take a F-16 even with low fidelity avionics. .

 

A-7s...ewww...A-6 might be a good one though - Flight of the Intruder was a good movie.

 

Good day!

 

DrDetroit

 

 

 

INR? its a mystery (also somewhat of a disappointment) why ED never even made the f16c as a pilotable aircraft for its Flaming Cliff series before the days of making full fidelity modules via DCS World. You know to compliment the F15?. When Russia had both a mig29 and a su27, both capable of dropping unguided muntions? while US in FC had no actual multi role fighter? in the case of FC a F16C block 30 would have sufficed.

Edited December 31, 2015 by Kev2go

[zaelu]

I just flew my first two flights with M2000C and all I want RAZBAM to do next is to finish and polish the Mirage.

[castor]

I just flew my first two flights with M2000C and all I want RAZBAM to do next is to finish and polish the Mirage.

+1

so that complete this project :thumbup:

[SparxOne]

Hopefully we get to see the F-16 someday before it's too late (for me), one question that comes to my mind though is from who will we see it come, ED itself or third party ?

 

Just like said on top, I also wouldn't even quite mind seeing an F-16 come up without full fidelity, it would be a great start already to a dream come true !

If I had the money, I'd even pay them to produce it hahaha, that's how much I want it :p

[scotchegg]

Just out of interest why hasn't anyone done an F16 yet? Would sell like hot cakes, clearly relevant, plethora of other sim F16s suggests technical info isn't hard to come by etc.

[SparxOne]

I wouldn't be able to tell you why no one hasn't done it yet, I don't recall any official/dev talking about it and giving any kind of info... Apart from speculating I don't know what to think, could the F-16 be a model they want to keep for later as to keep a vast majority of the community awaiting for their toy, could they be keeping it for later as to try and really build it properly of some sort ? In my wildest dreams, could they be already building it in undercover and someday bring it to us as a big surprise ?

 

Since the release of NTTR I just can't stop making myself movies of flights I'd have over the desert in that beautiful bird !

 

Let God have mercy on us, bring the F-16 please :D

[King_Hrothgar]

The answer to why none is doing an F-16 at this time is very simple, all the development groups have decided there are other aircraft they'd like more. That doesn't mean those other aircraft will sell better, it just means they are more interested in doing other types. There is nothing wrong with that approach. It's a lot of work making a DCS aircraft and the pay is questionable. You have to be passionate about it to make it happen.

 

Back on topic, of their wishlist aircraft, I'm most interested in the Harrier and A-7. The A-6 will also make a good addition and I'll probably buy it too, but I'm less excited about it. The F-15E is likely something I'll pass on as the F/A-18C does everything it does and a whole lot more (admittedly with less payload capacity). I'm also not overly fond of the F-15's in general, more of an F-16/18 guy. As for the F-16, it's a single engine F/A-18C as far as I'm concerned.

[Bullfrog_]

Just out of interest why hasn't anyone done an F16 yet? Would sell like hot cakes, clearly relevant, plethora of other sim F16s suggests technical info isn't hard to come by etc.

 

 

Marketing I imagine, I would bet the F-16 will be the most selling module to date when it hits. It's best to get all these other lesser known/popular planes a head of it.

 

I can't speak for everyone, but if I had an F-16, the chances of me buying a Mirage 2000 drop significantly for example.

[King_Hrothgar]

That doesn't hold though since BST, LNS, VEAO, RAZBAM and even ED (to an extent) are all in direct competition with each other for module sales. I also doubt many people will automatically reject most other modules simply because their favorite is already in game. I had no illusions about the Mirage 2000 bumping off the Ka-50 as my preferred aircraft, but that didn't stop me from buying it. Incidentally, the aircraft I most want in DCS is the Mi-24 and if/when BST makes it, I'll still buy other DCS aircraft, even other attack helos as they are offered.

 

Edit: On a related note, the Mirage isn't exactly an obscure or unpopular plane. It's one of the best known fighter series in the world. It's arguably less obscure than either the A-10 or the F-14.

Edited January 1, 2016 by King_Hrothgar

[Bullfrog_]

That doesn't hold though since BST, LNS, VEAO, RAZBAM and even ED (to an extent) are all in direct competition with each other for module sales. I also doubt many people will automatically reject most other modules simply because their favorite is already in game. I had no illusions about the Mirage 2000 bumping off the Ka-50 as my preferred aircraft, but that didn't stop me from buying it. Incidentally, the aircraft I most want in DCS is the Mi-24 and if/when BST makes it, I'll still buy other DCS aircraft, even other attack helos as they are offered.

 

Edit: On a related note, the Mirage isn't exactly an obscure or unpopular plane. It's one of the best known fighter series in the world. It's arguably less obscure than either the A-10 or the F-14.

 

 

To be fair, I wouldn't "reject other modules" if I had a infinite pool of money and time. There are planes that I will buy no mater what, the Harrier, Falcon, Phantom, and such. A F-16 is more interesting to me than a Mirage and because of that, an F-16 would make planes like the Mirage a less of a priority for me to buy.

 

Specially since they are very comparable. Since the Mirage 2000 came first though, more of a chance that I would buy it, which means more money going into DCS from me. I have no doubt that there is a chunk of players that are more liberal with their money and are more passionate about DCS that would buy it anyway.

 

Also, everything is less popular compared to the Viper :lol:

[DrDetroit]

I wouldn't be able to tell you why no one hasn't done it yet, I don't recall any official/dev talking about it and giving any kind of info... Apart from speculating I don't know what to think, could the F-16 be a model they want to keep for later as to keep a vast majority of the community awaiting for their toy, could they be keeping it for later as to try and really build it properly of some sort ? In my wildest dreams, could they be already building it in undercover and someday bring it to us as a big surprise ?

 

Since the release of NTTR I just can't stop making myself movies of flights I'd have over the desert in that beautiful bird !

 

Let God have mercy on us, bring the F-16 please :D

 

Yea, lets hope so! I've never even seen speculation about an F-16, but would be fantastic if they got one out there, even if FC3 type avionics. Hard to imagine ED or RAZBAM (or anybody else) hasn't thought about it simply due to the sales they'd generate. Seems that without the F-16 in some flyable form in DCS, especially with NTTR released, there is a big hole in the fleet as well as Red Flag type scenarios.

 

Come on ED or RAZBAM, time for the F-16C...even an A model...anything!

 

Good day,

 

DrDetroit

[Sweep]

Strike Eagle first, pleeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase.

 

I wouldn't mind a Viper too, but the F-15E's my favorite strike aircraft out there...(well, Thud II is my favorite, but I ain't getting that any time soon, if ever).

[fastfreddie]

I'll definitely get any F15 ... my dad has worked on their radar and other systems since the 70's. I'd imagine he'd love to see how accurate DCS gets that part of the modeling.

[SparxOne]

The thing clearly pushing me even more of wanting that F-16 is how badly I want to learn to master that thing from A to Z, you know most people around here are excited to see a new plane, fly it, kill some stuff with it and well basically do that with every plane they own on a "which plane do I want to fly today" basis.

 

I'm not really interested in that, I'm really looking to push the simulation to a next level, the level where you actually take the time to understand every bit of your plane, systems, radar etc and become able to react in accordance to every situation you come up against, going from failures to combat or navigation. And the thing keeping me from doing that right now is that I don't want to spend the time learning all that on a plane that I will probably not fly again (or much less) when the F-16 comes out, some would tell me that it wouldn't be lost because all knowledge is good to have after all but I just don't feel the same passion and motivation to master another plane at the moment.

[DrDetroit]

The thing clearly pushing me even more of wanting that F-16 is how badly I want to learn to master that thing from A to Z, you know most people around here are excited to see a new plane, fly it, kill some stuff with it and well basically do that with every plane they own on a "which plane do I want to fly today" basis.

 

I'm not really interested in that, I'm really looking to push the simulation to a next level, the level where you actually take the time to understand every bit of your plane, systems, radar etc and become able to react in accordance to every situation you come up against, going from failures to combat or navigation. And the thing keeping me from doing that right now is that I don't want to spend the time learning all that on a plane that I will probably not fly again (or much less) when the F-16 comes out, some would tell me that it wouldn't be lost because all knowledge is good to have after all but I just don't feel the same passion and motivation to master another plane at the moment.

 

Only one sim that does that currently w the F-16C in various block variations and super high fidelity - with a dynamic campaign to boot.

 

Good day,

 

DrDetroit

[The_Pharoah]

Aha - I have it!! Everyone knows we're in need of a good bomber, so why not the B47E Stratojet? The cockpit is like a jet anyway instead of a standard two pilot cockpit, its old and probably declassified, and this puppy can carry:

 

Guns: 2× 20 mm (0.787 in) M24A1 autocannons in a remote controlled tail turret with AN/APG-39 Gun-laying radar[50]

Bombs: 25,000 lb (11,000 kg) of ordnance, including:

2 × Mk15 nuclear bombs (3.8 megaton yield each), or

1 × B41 nuclear bomb (25 megaton yield), or

1 × B53 nuclear bomb (9 megaton yield), or

28 × 500 lb (227 kg) conventional bombs

 

:P