How many modules are you REALLY proficient at?

[Vectury]

I would say I am proficient in the following:

 

Mig-29/SU-27/SU-33

C-101

 

I can do basic operations in the following (but still need more practice before i can say i'm proficient with it):

 

SU-25T

F-15C

SU-25

Mig-21

UH-1

KA-50

 

I can cold-start/takeoff/land:

 

Mig-15

Mi-8

 

Still need to properly learn:

 

A-10C (saving the best for last)

F-86 Sabre

Combined Arms

Edited September 22, 2015 by Vectury

[xaoslaad]

Surely I can start up and get through most the systems on the A-10C and Ka-50. Add P-51D (and by proxy the TF-51D), Bf-109, and FW-190 to those I can cold start, fly and deploy most the weapons in. I am no slouch in with the Su-25T either, but then the systems are a whole lot less complex.

 

By virtue of the simplicity of the systems I can start and get through most functions of any of the FC-3 aircraft, though people can run rings around me in A-A. It is not a strong competency for me. Heck one of my favorite things to do in the MiG-21Bis is strafe ground targets with gun pods and rockets at Mach 1 because it's pretty terrifying to aim at the ground at Mach 1 (and probably completely unrealistic, but nonetheless fun).

 

I can't start the MiG-21Bis, F-86F, MiG-15Bis, or Mi-8MTV2 for complete lack of trying, though I know at least one of these (F-86F) is not hard if I'd bother to commit it to memory. But if I'm started up, getting in the air, deploying the weapons, and getting around are no problem.

 

The way I look at it is the way I look at tech and programming languages. After you become well versed in one vendors hardware, os, or a programing language you look at the other and say, "this is what I want to do, how do I achieve (or the closest approximation of) that in this."

 

You hit a critical mass eventually and know how to deploy most weapon types whether unguided, laser guided, TV, SARH, Active Radar Homing, IR, and so on.

 

Same with gauges and systems. You can design a VVI/VSI to look however you want, the basic principle whether it's the style of the one in the MiG-21Bis vs. the Mi-8MTV2 is the same. Complex systems like the various functions available on the MFCD's of the A-10C vs. the ABRIS in the Ka-50 are a little more hit and miss but it still somewhat applies.

 

There are always nuances and differences, but I think you can compensate rather easily after a point.

Edited September 22, 2015 by xaoslaad

[SpeedStick]

Also, to add to my previous post (previous page), I would like to refer to Benford's law.

[AtaliaA1]

I would say almost all of them but here are the ones that I know almost by heart:

 

A-10C

Ka-50

F-15

Su-27 (also the mig-29's)

Bf 109

F-86

MiG-15

MiG-21

Mi-8

UH-1H

and soon to be the F-14

 

 

I accidently voted all of them on the poll so I wish I could change it to 5+ (theres your answer Pizzicato :P)

 

I love DCS modules and its a hobby, so I usually take my time to learn, fly and figure out the capability's of each aircraft so I'm proficient and can use them how there supposed to be used.

 

 

Good Night!!!!!!! (as apposed to Blasphemy) You have a lot of time on your hands to be able to do that. I have little time to study the A10c (my favorite) and am not proficient in it by any means of the word.

 

As for your answer to the Pole. Adding the modules you own is key to this question I think. If you have only your favorite then it is your only option other than the free birds.

[AtaliaA1]

This.

 

 

 

Right now this thread just looks like people trying to name all the modules in DCS.

 

 

Ahhhh Ye! of little faith. :) You must trust your fellow Pilots to be honest and forthright in their answers.

 

Proficiency in it's Basic form is subjective. This is an exact science (Flight Sims.) So to be proficient in this instance is exacting in a linguistic sort of way.

[Mar28]

Hi to All!

Back in 1992 a Friend of mine pilot at our Air Force converting to the F5-E Tiger II told me that it took 7 hours to became solo, but 6 months of training to became operational!!

I think this can give us some thoughs! Hehehehehe!

[marluk]

Ahhhh Ye! of little faith. :) You must trust your fellow Pilots to be honest and forthright in their answers.

 

Proficiency in it's Basic form is subjective. This is an exact science (Flight Sims.) So to be proficient in this instance is exacting in a linguistic sort of way.

 

I'm considering proficient with A-10C everyone who is able to accomplish any of Maple Flag Missions without problems.

Well, I still have to practice.

For other modules I don't know.

[R.Loewenherz]

Despite having bought all modules so far to support the devs, I'm only proficient in operating the Huey currently. I can of course fly the FC3 aircraft, but winning a fight with them against an opponent who knows what he's doing is out of the question.

 

I am working on my "type rating" and "combat ready status" for the F86 at the moment, i.e. I want to get proficient on that aircraft. However, that is only until the Viggen is out. THAT aircraft is what I really want to master! F/A-18 and/or F-14 are probables too, however the Viggen will have absolute priority over all the others.

[tomcatter]

A-10C and MIG-21 on my side.

I do fly sometimes the P-51 and the Eagle and I heve the knowledge to enjoy them, but my learnig curves on the Hog and the Bis are greater, and I can use them with better results on most flight and combat envelopes.

Mainly because I enjoy them more, they fit gloves on my hands.

[Ganesh]

I have a lot of modules but proficient? Only in A-10C to be honest.

It takes a big amount of time, at least for me. :book: & :joystick:

[gospadin]

For me? 5

 

F-15, Su-25T, A-10C, Mi-8MTv2, Huey

 

I can ramp start a few more aircraft (Ka-50, F-86) but can't use their systems.

[ksk1912]

All of them... ( without L39 and M2000-C )

[Ramstein]

by the time I become proficient at a couple, I forget how to fly the others.. and the circle continues

[WildBillKelsoe]

This too.

by the time I become proficient at a couple, I forget how to fly the others.. and the circle continues

[uboats]

I'm prof at Ctrl+EEE

[domini99]

A-10C, Mi-8 and SU-27

 

I have the Sabre and the Mig-21, but both aren't 100%

[lokodehortaleza]

Su-27, Su-25T, Mig-21 & A-10C. I own almost everything except for the BF109 & Mi-8, but i don't use them often enough to be proficient.

[lmp]

I am proficient with the MiG-15, this is the aircraft I fly the most ATM.

 

I am proficient with the Su-25, but that's an ASM aircraft so does that even count?

 

I was proficient with the MiG-21, Mi-8, Ka-50, Bf-109, Huey, Mustang, Sabre and the Russian FC3 fighters, and I could re-learn them quickly if I wanted to.

 

I never properly learned the American FC3 planes or the T-toad.

 

I've given up trying to learn the Fw-190 deathtrap.

 

The A-10C has a stick with too many buttons.

 

I don't have the two trainers.

[esb77]

The problem is that you didn't define proficiency.

 

Are we talking ability to accomplish mission objectives.

 

Are we talking would pass a flight test with a qualified instructor pilot doing the grading?

 

Are we talking good enough to meet the standards of a first world military force?

 

 

Depending on the standard the lack of a zero option is pretty significant.

[DTWD]

You forgot another option: 0 <-ME

[lokodehortaleza]

Well for me, proficient means being able to fly the single player missions/campaigns without having the manual/chuck's guide opened in my lap. I certainly wouldn't be able to pass any kind of serious test.

[rajdary]

Personally for me Proficient means to be able to finish all single player missions or Campaigns in a module :

a. Without Helps of any form, cheats, active pause, or unlimited anything

b. without labels

c. without exterior views of any enemy either ground or air

d. without access to F10 map

 

In other words making it as real as possible.

So i am only proficient at A10C and Hawk. Just making it for F86.

[Talisman_VR]

The 2 I have. Waiting to see if DCS can deliver WWII before getting any more.

Although, I might try the Spit on release, but that will be it pending Normandy map and better WWII environment.

If all goes well with WWII project, then more modules will be in my collection. I only get modules that I intend to be proficient at. Pointless otherwise.

 

Happy landings,

 

Talisman

[SpeedStick]

Ahhhh Ye! of little faith. :) You must trust your fellow Pilots to be honest and forthright in their answers.

 

Proficiency in it's Basic form is subjective. This is an exact science (Flight Sims.) So to be proficient in this instance is exacting in a linguistic sort of way.

 

I'd love to get in to a discussion about semiotic studies. However, to shorten the answer;

I very much support the basic notion of semiotics that all language and signs are by nature subjective.

 

Wow I sound like pretentious d*ck. Sorry.

Anyway. I wouldn't trust 95% of people on the forum to fly with me, if I met them for the first time and they told me that they were proficient. Not saying that I am better in any way. i wouldn't trust myself either. As you said, it's an exact science, and I don't trust internet people with it. :pilotfly:

[Pizzicato]

The problem is that you didn't define proficiency.

 

Are we talking ability to accomplish mission objectives.

 

Are we talking would pass a flight test with a qualified instructor pilot doing the grading?

 

Are we talking good enough to meet the standards of a first world military force?

 

 

Depending on the standard the lack of a zero option is pretty significant.

 

It's basically the first option from my perspective, i.e. "Which of the aircraft you own would you feel totally comfortable jumping into and completing missions or going onto an MP server with?"

 

In terms of proficiency meaning you could pass a flight test with an RL instructor or qualify for a first world air force, erm... no. As wonderful, immersive and "realistic" as DCS truly is, it's just a very fancy and complex video game at the end of the day. I'm sure it can be helpful in some aspects as a training tool for RL pilots/trainees, but it's not going to get the rest of us to those standards - no matter how much our egos and fantasies try to tell us otherwise. :D

 

That being the case, defining "proficiency" as something that only the forum's RL pilots could reasonably attain would be a bit limiting to the poll. I'd much prefer to keep it as "Which aircraft are your comfortable with?"