Revelation Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Hey Wags, Thanks for putting in the effort to give us the video. One thing, if you will, adjust the game volume when you are talking in external view. There were 2-3 times I have no clue what you said because I couldn't hear you over the sound of the engine. With that said, I enjoyed the video. 1 Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
ED Team Wags Posted October 25, 2015 ED Team Posted October 25, 2015 Thank you. Yes, that is why the full texts of the Q&A are posted. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544
Lino_Germany Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Nice status-taskbar. Kind regards, Lino_Germany
Raven68 Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Nice status-taskbar. Ditto!! :thumbup: Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional Pimax Crystal Light /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
Zaltys Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Nice video, nice aircraft but I'm really put off by simpliefied FM at open beta release. Will wait till it has EFM/PFM.
112th_Rossi Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 No AFM, no play. Just not interested in a simple flight model. I've pre-ordered but I'll wait until a decent flight model has been added.
Silver_Dragon Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Thanks by the video Wags, but if my question was not answered on the video, I assume them as a NO. My question: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2503723&postcount=2 For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
BudgietheLittleHelicopter Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) I love the idea of dropping a laser guided bomb that is being guided by a ground unit. Lots of opportunities for scenarios. For instance like in the movie clear and present danger where a laser guided bomb is used to suggest a car bomb assassination. I am disappointed about the lack of exocet missiles. Maybe it is not 100% historical accurate, but that was my first association with this module, and it would open lots of other interesting (fictional) scenarios like attacks on carrier groups. Hope they will change their mind, it looks like a lot of potential customers are keen on it. Edited October 25, 2015 by BudgietheLittleHelicopter
rrohde Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 No AFM, no play. Just not interested in a simple flight model. I've pre-ordered but I'll wait until a decent flight model has been added. I am in the same boat. I can see that those who also develop for FSX/P3D get away with a SFM (Simple Flight Model), simply because that's how it's done there, but in order to play with the big boys, aka DCS, a quality EFM needs to be included early on. Heck, I grounded my Hawk and my C-101 because they feel like styrofoam blocks on the ground, and like toy planes in the air; might be good enough for the more casual FSX/P3D standard - but not here. The difference between SFM and PFM is like night and day. PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com
Blaze Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 but in order to play with the big boys, aka DCS, a quality EFM needs to be included early on. You say that like you can just punch in some numbers in a magical program and it spits out an EFM. There is an enormous amount of work that has to go into it. Releasing first with an SFM then upgrading to an EFM when it's ready isn't a bad move. If you want to wait, wait. But don't say they aren't capable of reaching the bar set by ED because the EFM won't be ready at the beta (keyword, beta) release at the end of the year. might be good enough for the more casual FSX/P3D standard - but not here. Don't mix up what's good for you and for the rest of the userbase. There is still a very large portion of the DCS crowd that like and fly SFM aircraft, and there's nothing wrong with that. i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. "
VapoR Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Really looking forward to this aircraft! Thanks for the Q&A!
ebabil Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 i think we will have another fc3 fighter with clickable cockpit. no active missiles, no proper ccrp with lgb, no anti ship misslies, no sead missiles but it looks one of the most beautiful model. FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
zaelu Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Thanks for the Q&A video Matt! I also preorder it and I am not interested in SFM. I can wait the EFM. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
rrohde Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 I appreciate your feedback, @Blaze. My comment was directed at the notion of what a DCS module (not FC3, e.g. Mig-29 and Su-33 atm) should bring to the table. I'm fully aware of how intricate PFM/EFM modeling is, and yes, it should be included early on. It's part of the development process, just like any other aspect of developing a DCS module. Is it not? However, I am not sure how talented the developer has to be in order to create an EFM. It seems as if there's a lot more to it, and not every 3rd party dev has that skill. I wonder if ED lends a helping hand (e.g., Yo-Yo) to those that need it? FYI - I always pre-order any module as soon as they become available, SFM or not. PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com
wolfstriked Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) This plane looks to become my favorite in the DCS lineup just for its visuals.Also,love the turbulence sounds with any amount of pitch change as it really adds to a sensation of turning IMO.Maybe just a barely noticeable amount of cockpit vibration that intensifies with G's pulled and it would be perfect.:thumbup: Edited October 25, 2015 by wolfstriked "Its easy,place the pipper on target and bombs away." :pilotfly: i7-8700k/GTX 1080ti/VKB-GladiatorPRO/VKB-T-rudder Pedals/Saitek X55 throttle
King_Hrothgar Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Thanks for answering all those questions, it was certainly a long list of them. Looks like I'll be passing on it for now though. Flight models are what make or break a flight sim to me and it looks like a proper flight model for the Mirage is a ways off. So I'll wait till it has that. On a side note, yes, flight models are the most complicated part. Lots of people can make pretty 3d models and textures. Many others can also do the basic programming and math required for systems modeling. But flight models require high level math, classical mechanics (the full version), fluid dynamics and thermodynamics. Those aren't things one learns in 2 weeks at the local community college.
Chief Instructor Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 The Mirage looks like it's going to be amazing when it's fully released. However, DCS2 and the new map is what's giving me excited underpants right now! :cheer3nc: Thanks for another great video Wags! CPU: Intel i9 13900KS @5.8GHz | MB: ROG Strix Z790 Gaming-E | GPU: Asus ROG Strix RTX3090 OC | RAM: 32Gb Corsair Dominator DDR5 @6200MHz | Cooling: Custom CPU/GPU cooling loop | PSU: Supernova 850G2 @ 850W | OS: Windows 10 Home Premium 64Bit Storage: 3x Samsung EVO 970 Plus M.2 1Tb + 3x Samsung 850 EVO SSD 250Gb | Input: TM HOTAS WH Saitek Combat Pedals | Output: Samsung 50" OLED TV | VR: HP Reverb G2 | Audio: Realtek + Z906 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker System
Charly_Owl Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Releasing first with an SFM then upgrading to an EFM when it's ready isn't a bad move. If you want to wait, wait. Don't mix up what's good for you and for the rest of the userbase. There is still a very large portion of the DCS crowd that like and fly SFM aircraft, and there's nothing wrong with that. There is still a very large portion of the DCS crowd that doesn't like SFM aircraft either. In my humble PERSONAL opinion, I would rather wait for EFM than release it with SFM. But that's just me. Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Chuck's Guides on Mudspike Chuck's Youtube Channel Chuck's Patreon
Flycat Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Thanks Matt, that written down Q&A is really helpful, and that video is really cool as usual! You are really kind and warmhearted for the consumer!
Witchking Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 OMG! Is it sad or I really am sooo excited to see the toolbar update at the bottom.... Loooks so much nicer than the DCS 1.xx version stuff. Semi transparent... super nice ED...keep it up. :D The mirage is looking awesome as well. Can't wait for PFM and steam pre-orders. :D WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA|
kontiuka Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 OMG! Is it sad or I really am sooo excited to see the toolbar update at the bottom.... Loooks so much nicer than the DCS 1.xx version stuff. Semi transparent... I was wondering what "FLP" was on the far right. Flap position maybe?
PiedDroit Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) I was wondering what "FLP" was on the far right. Flap position maybe? Probably, the Mirage-2000 has no flaps, so... 0% ;) Also the answer to question Q: "Is the waypoint visible on HUD ? Does M2000C have anything similar to mark points ? How the navigation / ground points designation (if available) sorted out ?"is not super clear to me: A: "Yes. In NAV mode it will show you the bearing to the next WP. In A-G mode, the next WP becomes the target point."Mark point or not mark point? Edited October 25, 2015 by PiedDroit
Witchking Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 I was wondering what "FLP" was on the far right. Flap position maybe? Probably, the Mirage-2000 has no flaps, so... 0% ;) I am a noob in terms of most aircraft technical info....but are flap positions represented as %?? I would imagine it was more represented typically as degrees?? WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA|
uhntissbaby111 Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 I am a noob in terms of most aircraft technical info....but are flap positions represented as %?? I would imagine it was more represented typically as degrees?? Depends on aircraft, but yes you are correct, it is typically in degrees. However some, I know Airbus does this, use numbers. In the case of Airbus they have the position 1,2,3,4. And others, more so in the case of light GA aircraft have an up, takeoff, and landing position. I've never seen any aircraft use percent though 1
PiedDroit Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 I am a noob in terms of most aircraft technical info....but are flap positions represented as %?? I would imagine it was more represented typically as degrees?? This might just be a placeholder. Also % are easier when you don't know your aircraft (just like % rpm is easier to understand than the actual number of rpms). degrees would make more sense (but IMO it's not super important :))
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