Cessna A-37 Dragonfly

[WinterH]

I also would love both Dragonfly and Bronco someday.

[RabidRider]

I also would love both Dragonfly and Bronco someday.

 

+1 Two great aircraft, also with great visibility. Instant buys for me.

[flyingscotsman]

I agree with Slipp

[mkellytx]

The A-37 would be great. Real life I logged a couple of hours in the Tweet sim and the left seat of the actual aircraft. Also, I flew with enough TPS grads who spun the A-37 to know that it would be a fun ship to fly.

 

FWIW, they got plenty of combat hours in SEA and South America, surely something interesting could be done with the bird.

[GaryIKILLYOU]

LOl "was promised" as Wags says "everything is subject to change.

 

The 101 is looking like it may happen but from the outside it appears at least that development has come to a crawl. The Hawk is TBD concerning MP multi crew but at least the EFM is on the horizon.

 

So it would take less time to develop a completely new trainer (potentially stunting aircraft like the Viggen and Tomcat) because other developers haven't finished their trainers fast enough? :lol:

 

Don't get me wrong, I love T-38s. My grandfather was a mechanic for the T-Birds and I've been all over T-38s and have quite the photo collection. However, LNS would be the last people I'd ask to make a T-38. Why? Because Belsimtek is doing the F-5E. I'm well aware that they're not the same aircraft but A LOT of system functionality and flight model data could be used, or adapted slightly if Belsimtek was to even make the thing. At that point though, what would be the harm in making a two seater F-5?

[Snoopy]

At that point though, what would be the harm in making a two seater F-5?

 

 

 

It would be great, I said multiple times an F-5F model would be perfect.

[GaryIKILLYOU]

It would be great, I said multiple times an F-5F model would be perfect.

 

We can only hope. :)

[LBRB.Freitag]

Pure coaches are interesting, but have a more "limited"

 

Versions of combat-capable trainers have good marketing.

 

A version of the AO-37B would actually be very good, I'd particularly love it.

 

Commercially speaking, this aircraft had a good amount of operators, which could generate good profits for the developers.

[Kev2go]

T-38 would be great.

 

BUT AFTER we get: F-15E, F-18C, F-14A&B, Gripen, Typhoon, SU-27SM and some others.

 

Then DCS will be in need of trainers. For now there's more trainers than actual DCS modern jets.

 

but heatblur is developing none of those aforementioned modules ( or plans to) save for the current A +B Tomcats, and those are heavy WIP far into development. and not a recently started project.

 

and SU27Sm wont happen, as that was already cancelled long ago for reasons i really dont feel like repeating, and Wags has astated if any Su27 it would be the cold war era Su27S.

 

If the Interceptor version , the JA 37 viggen was still deemed classified to the devs, i doubt we would be getting a gripen which is a current service fighter unless they like VEO get a miL contract, and are allowed to make a consumer version of it.

Edited June 2, 2017 by Kev2go

[Rogue Trooper]

Rockwell OV-10 Bronco would do it for my wish list. but yeah the A-37 don't look bad.

[Kev2go]

Rockwell OV-10 Bronco would do it for my wish list. but yeah the A-37 don't look bad.

 

for me when it comes to post ww2 pistons, id like to see a AD6/A1H skyraider. That is a must have for nam, plus even earlier versions of the skyraider such as the AD4, were iconic to the Korean War as well. Its not a trainer, and a its a pretty nice Attack aircraft, rugged for its day, prefered by troops for it loiter time, and being better suited for CLose air support than fast movers for its day., and being also excellent for COIN operations. It still was capable of huge payloads. The Spiritual predecessor to the A10 in a way.

 

Also was in use by 3 service of the US armed forces, initally first, but the US Navy, MArine Corps. And eventually the US Air force ( acquired around vietnam war period), and also had export users too. which included Nato allies France, and even the UK.

 

 

thing is the OV10 is still primarily a FAC with only very light attack capability :/, all in all the Skyraider offers far better attack capability whilst still being great adaptation for the COIN role.

Edited June 3, 2017 by Kev2go

[LBRB.Freitag]

In fact both the Bronco, the Dragonfly and the Skyraider would be very interesting options. I would include the Trojan in this list as well.

But I believe that in order to be able to integrate, they should belong to the same period. In the Vietnam case.

[probad]

In fact both the Bronco, the Dragonfly and the Skyraider would be very interesting options. I would include the Trojan in this list as well.

But I believe that in order to be able to integrate, they should belong to the same period. In the Vietnam case.

not this again. just because it's got the mig-21 in the name doesn't make the bis anywhere near the same thing as an f-13.

 

there's nothing to even start integrating for vietnam, don't even try the argument.

[Kev2go]

not this again. just because it's got the mig-21 in the name doesn't make the bis anywhere near the same thing as an f-13.

 

there's nothing to even start integrating for vietnam, don't even try the argument.

 

he never mentioned the mig21.... ( FYI the F13s weren't the only MIg21's. They also flew PF/PFM's as well as receiving some Mig21MF's late in the war)

 

 

give it a rest.

 

for quite a while dcs ww2 era aircraft were flown without a proper theatre. We dont need to have a Vietnam theater immediately to coincide with a potential module(s) release from that era. Similarly the Mig21BIs or F5E don't have any real life theaters yet, where they flew combat against one another.

Edited June 3, 2017 by Kev2go

[LBRB.Freitag]

In reality, with the exception of the new WWII module, the DCs have no definite theater or period.

It is simply a standard base with randomly added aircraft.

 

In my point of view, this is very vague and meaningless.

 

At least if we add operational opponents, we could have a starting point.

 

And Probad, because so much hatred for the theater of vietnam .. I just mentioned aircraft that were operationally outstanding and I used vietnam as an example. It could be middle east, korea either ..

[Kev2go]

In reality, with the exception of the new WWII module, the DCs have no definite theater or period.

It is simply a standard base with randomly added aircraft.

 

In my point of view, this is very vague and meaningless.

 

At least if we add operational opponents, we could have a starting point.

 

And Probad, because so much hatred for the theater of vietnam .. I just mentioned aircraft that were operationally outstanding and I used vietnam as an example. It could be middle east, korea either ..

 

Well except maybe also Korean time period with the Mig15Bis and F86F. Though addmitely the Block 35 they chose to model is in fact not see service in Korea and IS post war production. ( especially up to

at least 3 years after if you take into consideration its post factory retrofit wired to carry the aim9b Sidewinders)

 

Buti guess the only vietnam era aircraft in DCS would be the UH1H huey

Edited June 5, 2017 by Kev2go

[Ice_Cougar]

An OV-10D, D+/M maybe...as long as it gets a FLIR and RWR, I'd fly that a bit as a counter insurgency and AFAC aircraft. But as for adding yet another trainer, no. We don't need the A-37.

 

OV-10 is still seeing combat even today. Fighting militias in the Philippines.

[Kev2go]

An OV-10D, D+/M maybe...as long as it gets a FLIR and RWR, I'd fly that a bit as a counter insurgency and AFAC aircraft. But as for adding yet another trainer, no. We don't need the A-37.

 

OV-10 is still seeing combat even today. Fighting militias in the Philippines.

 

so what you want is another Super tucano then? Razbams (WIP) Super Tucano is far more Widespread in Light attack and COin, also offers FLir, a glass pit etc.

 

A37 is not just Another trainer ( the T-37 would be an actual trainer jet) . By that logic So is the Super Tucano "just" a mere trainer. It was very much a light attack/ coin jet. during the Vietnam It performed combat sorties.

 

But then again if you want Such modern technology, you already have much more rugged, more effective A10C thunderbolt to fly for 21st century. ( evnetually you will also have the ST from Razbam) the A10 has Also performed (s) COIN operations apart from Tank busting, or being used as a CAS platform. , if you look at recent Operation INherent Resolve over Syria for EG, or even former operations over Afghanistan or OIF campagin.

Edited June 8, 2017 by Kev2go

[Ice_Cougar]

so what you want is another Super tucano then? Razbams (WIP) Super Tucano is far more Widespread in Light attack and COin, also offers FLir, a glass pit etc.

 

A37 is not just Another trainer ( the T-37 would be an actual trainer jet) . By that logic So is the Super Tucano "just" a mere trainer. It was very much a light attack/ coin jet. during the Vietnam It performed combat sorties.

 

But then again if you want Such modern technology, you already have much more rugged, more effective A10C thunderbolt to fly for 21st century. ( evnetually you will also have the ST from Razbam) the A10 has Also performed (s) COIN operations apart from Tank busting, or being used as a CAS platform. , if you look at recent Operation INherent Resolve over Syria for EG, or even former operations over Afghanistan or OIF campagin.

 

Yeah that is the main problem with my idea. Razbam is going to top it with a glass pitted, turbo-propped dank meme of a machine. :lol:

 

I just wished for a good Bronco for it's slightly (imo) greater weapons payload and pretty amazing STOL performance. But you're right...there is now no use for an OV-10 and to be honest the A-10C already did it in. :cry:

[trietnguyen]

 

 

Edited June 22, 2017 by trietnguyen
origile model by stratos edited by rsvnpilot

[Hawkeye60]

Nice job here!

I see you fixed the cockpit!

 

Is she ready?

 

Stratos going to release her?

 

She is awesome!

[trietnguyen]

Nice job here!

I see you fixed the cockpit!

 

Is she ready?

 

Stratos going to release her?

 

She is awesome!

The job is complete.

It will be release if allowed by Stratos

[Hawkeye60]

The job is complete.

It will be release if allowed by Stratos

Thank you!

Do you have plans to update the Bronco?

[Stratos]

The job is complete.

It will be release if allowed by Stratos

 

Of course! Remember to name Eduardo Fadul as main 3d artist.

 

I'm also interested in seeing an update on the Bronco please.

Edited June 23, 2017 by Stratos

[trietnguyen]

Of course! Remember to name Eduardo Fadul as main 3d artist.

 

I'm also interested in seeing an update on the Bronco please.

 

I am doing an entirely new BRONCO

The old data lost when hard drive damage.