joanvalley Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Would you guys be interested in having the night fighter/bomber in DCS? Edited November 29, 2015 by joanvalley 1
Arden Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Well, It'd be interesting from a mechanical point of view. But the only thing an F-117 is pretty much good for is strikes behind enemy lines at HVT's. It has a very very limited payload capacity. No A-A capability, no gun, and only 2 hardpoints for A-G ordnance iirc. So, in terms of useability and fun in the game, I dunno.
Cripple Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Well, It'd be interesting from a mechanical point of view. But the only thing an F-117 is pretty much good for is strikes behind enemy lines at HVT's. It has a very very limited payload capacity. No A-A capability, no gun, and only 2 hardpoints for A-G ordnance iirc. So, in terms of useability and fun in the game, I dunno. Bit like a trainer jet then? :P Seriously though, I was looking through a book on it. Interesting piece of kit, but very niche. My *new* AV-8B sim-pit build thread: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3901589 The old Spitfire sim-pit build thread circa '16/17: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=143452
Moos_tachu Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 One sure thing: in terms of polycount-friendly, no other aircraft comes close :D 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Mud, wind and fire.
WildBillKelsoe Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 I was thinking about the same thing. I guess we'll never know until a newsletter or announcement hits us in the face :D AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Gargoil Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Would you guys be interested in having the night fighter/bomber in DCS? YES!
will- Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 wat! Yes. Intel i9-9900K 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080tiftw3, Windows 10, 1tb 970 M2, TM Warthog, 4k 144hz HDR g-sync.
zaelu Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 What is this has to do with RAZBAM? And F117 is already in game. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Boss86005 Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) No! Edited November 29, 2015 by Boss86005 "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the day and night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". --------------------------------------------------------- Intel i-9 9900k @ 5.0 Ghz, EVGA 2080tiFTW3 11Gb, Corsair H115 PRO water cooler, Gigabyte AorusMaster motherboard, EVGA Super Nova 1000 watt G+ powersupply, G.SKILL 64Gb ram @3800 MHz, HP EX 920 M.2 PCIe 3TB,Windows 10Pro x64
Vitormouraa Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 To be honest, No! They could spend their time in other plane. And money of course. SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com
Paradox Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 No thanks, it's a bit terrible. F-105D For me please!
Mike Busutil Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Like this one... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
FSKRipper Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Nice plane, but I would vote against it. You won't get even a handful of documents which are not classified so most of the FM, avionics and system modeling would be some kind of reading coffee grounds. Maybe an idea for Ubisoft but not for DCS... i9 9900K @ 5,0GHz | 1080GTX | 32GB RAM | 256GB, 512GB & 1TB Samsung SSDs | TIR5 w/ Track Clip | Virpil T-50 Stick with extension + Warthog Throttle | MFG Crosswind pedals | Gametrix 908 Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Revelation Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Nice plane, but I would vote against it. You won't get even a handful of documents which are not classified so most of the FM, avionics and system modeling would be some kind of reading coffee grounds. Maybe an idea for Ubisoft but not for DCS... Not exactly true. Flies like an A-7, used off-the-shelf parts from various aircraft in inventory to "hide" its development. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
FSKRipper Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Not exactly true. Flies like an A-7, used off-the-shelf parts from various aircraft in inventory to "hide" its development. Seems that you have some flight experience with this one... reliable printed sources for FM behaviour? printed construction plans with labeling of "These parts from other ac"? reliable printed sources for Nighthawk avionics? Not found, sure, they simply not exist in unclassified versions. 1. classified documents are a nogo for the developers. 2. unclassified material (especially of this jet) is very rare. As with most DCS models, Youtube documentations and chit chat are not reliable sources. Edited November 29, 2015 by FSKRipper i9 9900K @ 5,0GHz | 1080GTX | 32GB RAM | 256GB, 512GB & 1TB Samsung SSDs | TIR5 w/ Track Clip | Virpil T-50 Stick with extension + Warthog Throttle | MFG Crosswind pedals | Gametrix 908 Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dartuil Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 F-105 or F-104 but F-117 no thanks for me. 1 i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
Revelation Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Seems that you have some flight experience with this one... reliable printed sources for FM behaviour? Yes, they exist. printed construction plans with labeling of "These parts from other ac"? reliable printed sources for Nighthawk avionics? All avionics in the F-117a were borrowed from other AC. Not found, sure, they simply not exist in unclassified versions.Not True. The classified aspects of the F-117a encompass the radar absorbent material of the AC and the RCS reducing measures taken - though most are known to this day. 1. classified documents are a nogo for the developers. 2. unclassified material (especially of this jet) is very rare. As with most DCS models, Youtube documentations and chit chat are not reliable sources. There you go making assumptions again.... Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
Bullfrog_ Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) YES! It would be a novelty and I would buy it for that alone, an iconic plane I would want just to fly plus it's simple so it wouldn't hold up other projects that much. Edited November 30, 2015 by Bullfrog_
Home Fries Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) I'll vote yes, though the reason is why some would vote "no". The F-117 is known to be challenging in the terminal phases of flight (takeoff/landing), but is mostly controlled by autopilot while enroute, with pilot interaction with weapons systems over the target. With as many CAS and fighter aircraft as we have in DCS, we don't have any deep strike birds. I think it would be fun to be a deep strike "systems guru" as well. Let the challenge be in avoiding/evading air defenses, executing the strike as planned, and flying "seat of the pants" if battle damaged (which would also compromise the RCS). You could design some incredible missions. Edited November 30, 2015 by Home Fries -Home Fries My DCS Files and Skins My DCS TARGET Profile for Cougar or Warthog and MFDs F-14B LANTIRN Guide
CaptJodan Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 With as many CAS and fighter aircraft as we have in DCS, we don't have any deep strike birds. I think it would be fun to be a deep strike "systems guru" as well. Let the challenge be in avoiding/evading air defenses, executing the strike as planned, and flying "seat of the pants" if battle damaged (which would also compromise the RCS). You could design some incredible missions. I'd vote yes for these reasons as well. No, it's not the most seat-of-the-pants aircraft, but it would be interesting to fly.
cichlidfan Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 As cool as it may look, from what I have read, if everything goes according to plan, it is rather boring to fly. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
mvsgas Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 There was a thread about this not long ago. It would be terrible. If it's modeled like the A-10C, you would take off, turn autopilot, press the pickle button and when home base is reach, land. No way to defend your self, completely dependent on no one seeing you. Terrible. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Tirak Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 I say yes it'd be cool. The A-10 can't defend itself anyway, it basically picks on ground formations that can't effectively fight back, so this would just be the stealth version of that. Slipping in at night, bombing targets would actually be rather fun for a not insignificant part of the community.
mvsgas Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) Seems that you have some flight experience with this one... reliable printed sources for FM behaviour? printed construction plans with labeling of "These parts from other ac"? reliable printed sources for Nighthawk avionics? Not found, sure, they simply not exist in unclassified versions. 1. classified documents are a nogo for the developers. 2. unclassified material (especially of this jet) is very rare. As with most DCS models, Youtube documentations and chit chat are not reliable sources. http://www.f117sfa.org/f117_about.htm Targeting system similar to F-111F, AN/AVQ-26 Pave tack [ame] [/ame] Navigation and MCFD just like the A-10C Engine panel just like F/A-18A, same engines also. Definitely doable, but I hope to God it never happens. Edited November 30, 2015 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
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