DCS : F4U-1 Corsair

[Hiob]

But I’d be surprised of it could ever outrun a late Bf-109.

[AJaromir]

4 minutes ago, Hiob said:

But I’d be surprised of it could ever outrun a late Bf-109.

Depends on variant.

F4U-1A: 417 mph

F4U-1D: 425 mph (with water injection)

F4U-4: 446 mph or 453 mph (dispute between data sources)

F4U-5: 470 mph (missed WWII)

Edited Friday at 07:12 PM by AJaromir

[Iron_Man]

Guys if you’re good at dogfighting try to fight against a bot ace level on 109K. First in P-47, then in F-4U. Let us know your experience!

[AJaromir]

Just now, Iron_Man said:

Guys if you’re good at dogfighting try to fight against a bot ace level on 109K. First in P-47, then in F-4U. Let us know your experience!

I can try that but this is not how the F-4U1D should be used. It is strike bomber, not interceptor/dogfighter.

[UrgentSiesta]

49 minutes ago, Hiob said:

The Corsair doesn’t strike me as a high speed design. Whereas, given the huge surfaces, I could imagine it as being good at turning. But that is only my unprofessional deduction from the optics.

Corsair was literally designed for high speed. Close cowled, coolers embedded in wing leading edges rather than protruding, completely enclosed landing gear bays, spot welds/flush riveted, etc.

IIRC, it was the first aircraft to exceed 400mph in level flight, when most other front line aircraft were in the 300-350 (and slower) range.

[Iron_Man]

24 минуты назад, AJaromir сказал:

I can try that but this is not how the F-4U1D should be used. It is strike bomber, not interceptor/dogfighter.

Just humor me please. It shouldn’t be as helpless above the deck as P-47 right?

[NineLine]

On 6/19/2025 at 1:31 PM, chaos said:

I'm in need of a full size Force feedback stick

I recently added a center stick with extension, and it's really improved the feel of all Warbirds, including the F4U for me. 

[Beirut]

Is that BAT bomb included with the release, because I'm seeing zero info or videos about it?

[Mr_sukebe]

My initial thoughts after 2-3 hours flying time:

• Nice job visually. I seem to remember seeing some options to choose a 2k resolution set of internal texture, which is probably a good thing for people using GPU with lower VRAM levels
• Flight Model.  I thought it was OK, certainly not bad and for Early Access, it's fine.  Feels like it could do with more polish, but hey, it's early access
• There's a few "areas of opportunity" with the control bindings, i.e. I'd like to see my axes options, it's missing a few, and some don't work (have raised a bug report about that)
• The engine cooling seems to be "early access" as I accidentally overheated it, with no apparent engine damage.  Casmo mentioned that he'd not experienced any issues, which could be the fact that he's a much better pilot than I'll ever be, but is also possible that engine damage isn't yet finalised
• I was able to start it up and take off, just based on having previously flown the P47 a decent amount.  Watching Casmo's first video helped me with a couple of elements that I was struggling with (i.e. use of the mixture)
• No real issues on take off or landing.  Made my first carrier landing tonight.  As already mentioned, it's a bit of a brown trouser feeling as I expect the wire to catch me towards the rear of the ship (as per on the supercarrier).  On the Essex, it was a good deal further down the deck, which rather took me by surprise
• BTW, when putting the hook down, ensure the gear is already down, as otherwise the hook won't extend
• FFB seems fine, though I did wonder about the shake of the stick whilst firing the guns.  In a real aircraft, would that happen, whilst the rest of the airframe seems unaffected?  My guess is not

I have all of the other warbirds, and do enjoy flying them.  The Corsair is a very interesting addition and being a Brit, and having read about the use of the F4U by the Royal Navy Pacific Fleet, I'm really happy to be able to experience it in VR.  Thanks Mag3!

[Iron_Man]

30 минут назад, NineLine сказал:

I recently added a center stick with extension, and it's really improved the feel of all Warbirds, including the F4U for me. 

That’s the best way indeed. I personally add 15-25% curves on pitch and roll depending on a warbird, and it adds more precision and realism. 

[Hammer1-1]

23 minutes ago, Beirut said:

Is that BAT bomb included with the release, because I'm seeing zero info or videos about it?

yup

[Rudel_chw]

33 minutes ago, Beirut said:

Is that BAT bomb included with the release, because I'm seeing zero info or videos about it?

 

It is included:

 

 

You have to give time to the community to learn about these more advanced features, I'm sure tutorials will appear.

7 hours ago, Nodak said:

Does it have a smoke generation pod load out for aerobatics?  

 

Yes, but I have not tried it yet

 

 

[Beirut]

31 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

It is included:

 

 

You have to give time to the community to learn about these more advanced features, I'm sure tutorials will appear.

 

Yes, but I have not tried it yet

 

 

 

I hope someone makes a video soon. I want to see how it works.

[UrgentSiesta]

4 hours ago, AJaromir said:

I can try that but this is not how the F-4U1D should be used. It is strike bomber, not interceptor/dogfighter.

Nonsense. Would you say the same about the Hellcat or Wildcat just because they, too can carry bombs & rockets....?

The reason the Corsair garnered a rep for ground pounding comes from it's service introduction as a land based aircraft.

And in those places, the main enemy combatants were ground forces attempting to overrun the airfields from which the Corsairs were operating.

And the initial land basing was only because the USN couldn't figure out how to land it on an aircraft carrier. Once the Royal Navy figured that out for us, it was straight to sea as a fighter.

Avengers and Helldivers were the dedicated attackers.

[UrgentSiesta]

5 hours ago, Iron_Man said:

I couldn’t outrun the 109K at full power see at level in F-4U

Corsair should handily outrun the 109K on the deck, at least according to the charts I've found so far...

[Hayrake YE-ZB]

1 hour ago, UrgentSiesta said:

And the initial land basing was only because the USN couldn't figure out how to land it on an aircraft carrier. Once the Royal Navy figured that out for us, it was straight to sea as a fighter..

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/the-myth-of-the-british-fixing-the-corsair.63807/

Here is a long discussion about the myths and controversies about the carrier suitability of the Corsair that might be interesting. One of the reasons the F4U was delayed for sea duty in USN service was to avoid the complex logistics of carrying two separate fighter types on a single ship/supply chain. The Navy initially decided to go with the F6F, which was obviously getting the job done.

[UrgentSiesta]

56 minutes ago, Hayrake YE-ZB said:

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/the-myth-of-the-british-fixing-the-corsair.63807/

Here is a long discussion about the myths and controversies about the carrier suitability of the Corsair that might be interesting. One of the reasons the F4U was delayed for sea duty in USN service was to avoid the complex logistics of carrying two separate fighter types on a single ship/supply chain. The Navy initially decided to go with the F6F, which was obviously getting the job done.

The Corsair was in service WELL before the Hellcat.

[felixx75]

4 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Corsair should handily outrun the 109K on the deck, at least according to the charts I've found so far...

That may be true for an F4U-4 (not sure), but certainly not for an F4U-1D, which we have here in DCS.

[Qcumber]

7 hours ago, Iron_Man said:

That’s the best way indeed. I personally add 15-25% curves on pitch and roll depending on a warbird, and it adds more precision and realism. 

I had to add a curve to the pitch. I might try adding to roll too.

[Qcumber]

4 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

The Corsair was in service WELL before the Hellcat.

The Corsair was consigned to use by Marines and Royal Navy at first. As I understand it, the delay in providing assurance for carrier ops meant that by the time the kinks were worked out Navy politics had decided that the Hellcat was a more sensible option as they had organized a better supply line etc. 

[ESA_maligno]

[UrgentSiesta]

8 hours ago, Qcumber said:

The Corsair was consigned to use by Marines and Royal Navy at first. As I understand it, the delay in providing assurance for carrier ops meant that by the time the kinks were worked out Navy politics had decided that the Hellcat was a more sensible option as they had organized a better supply line etc. 

After some additional reading, yep, you're right. It seems like the Marines needed Wildcat replacements immediately, and since the Corsairs were already available, it went from there...

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[Hayrake YE-ZB]

15 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

The Corsair was in service WELL before the Hellcat.

You’ll find it far more enlightening to take a few minutes to read through the thread and follow some of the links before popping off with an irrelevant point.

[felixx75]

15 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

The Corsair was in service WELL before the Hellcat.

The production version of the F6, the F6F-3 (of which some 4400 were built) entered service in 1942 (only a few units, but it was in service). The first production version of the F4U, the F4U-1 (some 4700 built) also entered service in 1942... So your statement is not correct. The difference is only about 3 months. You really can't call that “WELL before”.

 

[UrgentSiesta]

2 hours ago, felixx75 said:

The production version of the F6, the F6F-3 (of which some 4400 were built) entered service in 1942 (only a few units, but it was in service). The first production version of the F4U, the F4U-1 (some 4700 built) also entered service in 1942... So your statement is not correct. The difference is only about 3 months. You really can't call that “WELL before”.

 

I read the linked article.

Seems like 6 months to me, which isnt too bad for a war that lasted 4 years and where aircraft generations were measured in half a year or so.

Anyhow, all good info.

2 hours ago, Hayrake YE-ZB said:

You’ll find it far more enlightening to take a few minutes to read through the thread and follow some of the links before popping off with an irrelevant point.

I read it - thanks for sharing. And yes it's enlightening.

Even if after reading it we still have somewhat differing perspectives.

And yeah, I'll pop off whenever I like. Thanks, Gramps!!