BravoYankee4 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 This is sort of on-topic: The Royal Swedish Airforce flotilla of F7 Såtenäs (home of the only airworthy AJS 37 hence the "7" on the side of the nose) will be sending a X-mas greeting to the Västra Götaland region today. They will fly in X-mas tree formation and pass the following towns and cities: Vara 14:53 Grästorp 14:56 Trollhättan 15:03 Uddevalla 15:06 Göteborg 15:15 Borås 15:21 Skara 15:32 Skövde 15:36 Mariestad 15:40 Lidköping 15:45 Thought some of my fellow Swedish armchair pilots would enjoy this. Yes, I will be out there with my camera - will share the pictures later :)
Kilrah Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Which plane will they fly? Just Gripens or do they use the planes from SwAFHF aswell? Looking forward to the pictures, maybe even a short video clip? ASUS Z370, i7 8086K @ 5,2 Ghz, ASUS Strix GTX 1080, 16GB Ram, TM HOTAS Warthog, TrackIR 5, Saitek combat rudders, 25" 1440p monitor, Oculus Rift
El Hadji Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 I think it will be a 10 plane formation of 39's. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My computer specs below: CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K@4.2GHz | CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro H100 | GPU: MSI Nvidia GTX 680 2GB Lightning 2GB VRAM @1.3GHz | RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600 | SSD 1: Corsair Force 3 120GB (SATA 6) | SSD 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB (SATA 6) | Hybrid disc: Seagate Momentus Hybrid 500/4GB (SATA 3) | Keyboard: QPAD MK-85 | Mouse: QPAD 5K LE | TrackIR 5 + Track Clip Pro | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | MFG Crosswind | OS: Win7/64
BravoYankee4 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Here are some details about the RB24J missile: RB 24J is closest to the AIM-9P and was a modified version of the AIM-9B/E.This version had some tactical improvements, as thermal cooling of the seeker head (-30 degrees Celcius) for better sensitivity. The nose had a conical shape for reduced drag. Updated rudder design (double delta) for better turn performance. The engine was upgraded for better thrust. The IR-fuse was replaced with a laser-fuse. The avionics had a new "rate-bias" circuit so that the seeker was directed at the front end of the heat source closer to the actual target. Some of the electronics was now based on transistors (not just minature vacuum tubes like in the RB24B) All variants of the 37 (and 39) planes could uncage the seeker for target tracking before launch for higher hit rate. It was made in USA and was in Swedish service from 1977. Length / Weight: 3 m / 80 kg
BravoYankee4 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 In the skies over Skara earlier today :)
emg Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 9P was basically a budget model for low-priority units and allies.
BravoYankee4 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Not the AJS-37 (so it is missing some equipment), but still a nice cockpit view: http://www.museeairespace.fr/aller-plus-haut/panoramas-360/360-cabines-de-pilotage/panorama-360-saab-sk-37e-viggen/
BaconSarnie Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Not the AJS-37 (so it is missing some equipment), but still a nice cockpit view: http://www.museeairespace.fr/aller-plus-haut/panoramas-360/360-cabines-de-pilotage/panorama-360-saab-sk-37e-viggen/ Im puzzled though, the SK is the trainer version, which is stated to have "limited" interceptor use and carries no radar. Yet there on the left is the radar controller handle and in the middle of the panel is the radar display. I double checked, various pics of S37's are the same. "SAAB SK 37 Two-seat trainer aircraft, first delivery in 1973. No radar. Decommissioned in 2003, some airframes converted to SK 37E." Source http://www.militaryplanes.co.uk/viggen.html Edited December 9, 2015 by BaconSarnie And lo, Reverend Vegas did say "Take forth unto the infidel the mighty GAU 8 and expend its holy 30MM so that freedom will be brung upon them who knoweth not the joys of BBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTT" "Amen"
BravoYankee4 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Im puzzled though, the SK is the trainer version, which is stated to have "limited" interceptor use and carries no radar. Yet there on the left is the radar controller handle and in the middle of the panel is the radar display. I double checked, various pics of S37's are the same. "SAAB SK 37 Two-seat trainer aircraft, first delivery in 1973. No radar. Decommissioned in 2003, some airframes converted to SK 37E." Source http://www.militaryplanes.co.uk/viggen.html Probably just a dummy. The radar panel and joystick is missing a lot of buttons etc.
Goblin Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 The Rb05 was a remote controlled air to ground missile. The pilot of the launching aircraft usually set the autopilot to attitude hold while controlling the missile visually. Now, in order to remote control the missile by visual cues toward the target, you need to see the missile, and you need to see the target. The missile had two flares in the rear to ease spotting. Now, if you see the target, the target see you... There you are, on autopilot, in attitude hold, diving in on a target...within visual range. I did my military service as a weapon and aircraft mechanic on the AJ37. We were terrified of the Rb05! Its propellant was considered highly neuro-toxic. The bloody missile was delivered in a gas proof bag. The airbase where I served, F15, had the only Rb05 simulator. I got to try it for a few shots. Quite fun! The target scenery was projected onto a big screen (that screen is used for the AJS37 simulator at F15 museum today. Visit highly recommended!). The scenery was a model landscape, with a camera traversing over it. When the missile was launched, you got to steer this red dot into this ring that approached you, superimposed on the target. The missile controller is on the right side console. It's basically a handgrip with a small thumb and index finger joystick. The missile could only be steered for a while. I think this had to do with the rudder actuators working on pressure from the rocket motor, or something like that. Anyways, the controlablility "wore off" rather fast, and you had to steer the missile on a trajectory towards the target, without overcorrecting too much, before the missile became uncontrollable. Thank god nobody had to go to war with this missile..! ;) 2
mattebubben Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Im puzzled though, the SK is the trainer version, which is stated to have "limited" interceptor use and carries no radar. Yet there on the left is the radar controller handle and in the middle of the panel is the radar display. I double checked, various pics of S37's are the same. "SAAB SK 37 Two-seat trainer aircraft, first delivery in 1973. No radar. Decommissioned in 2003, some airframes converted to SK 37E." Source http://www.militaryplanes.co.uk/viggen.html Its to Familiarise new pilots to the layout so when they go from the 2 seater to the single seat aircraft most of the screens / controlls are at the same locations.
Kerrija Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Add me to the list of people being excited about the Viggen. Always thought it was a beautiful and perfectly interesting aircraft.
repsol Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 I think it will be very different compared to the A10C, the F-18 (when released) and other more modern strike aircraft that usually operate from medium to high altitude. The attack Viggen did most of its work at treetop hight, flying at very high speed as far as i know (unless that changed during its last years of service due to improved avionics...) Should be good fun !
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BaconSarnie Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Its to Familiarise new pilots to the layout so when they go from the 2 seater to the single seat aircraft most of the screens / controlls are at the same locations. Thanks for that, it was so obvious that I just didnt think of it lol And lo, Reverend Vegas did say "Take forth unto the infidel the mighty GAU 8 and expend its holy 30MM so that freedom will be brung upon them who knoweth not the joys of BBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTT" "Amen"
RaXha Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 The attack Viggen did most of its work at treetop hight, flying at very high speed as far as i know (unless that changed during its last years of service due to improved avionics...) Yup, 10 Meters ASL / 20 meters AGL was an accepted flight level. :P
Lucas_From_Hell Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Good to know. Usually that's how low I fly, give or take 10-20m. :D
Corrigan Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Low-and-fast strike aircraft are probably the coolest thing there is. Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
Bacab Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Low-and-fast strike aircraft are probably the coolest thing there is. It reminds me of my previous question : what AG mode does the radar have ? I assume GMTI, SAR (I read something about radar imagery for recon, can't see another mode to perform that), air-sea mode and perhaps a ground following mode ?
Eldur Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Low-and-fast strike aircraft are probably the coolest thing there is. It's about 20% cooler I'm looking forward to some A/G radar usage in DCS, don't know how real any previous implementations of A/G radars in other sims are, so I'm quite excited about this :thumbup: Edited December 9, 2015 by Eldur
emg Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 It reminds me of my previous question : what AG mode does the radar have ? I assume GMTI, SAR (I read something about radar imagery for recon, can't see another mode to perform that), air-sea mode and perhaps a ground following mode ? GMTI in 1969? Let's not expect too much from these old radars.
Rogue Trooper Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 It ain't a Tonka, but it will be a very interesting aircraft. HP G2 Reverb (Needs upgrading), Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. set to OpenXR, but Open XR tool kit disabled. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), DLSS setting is quality at 1.0. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC... Everything needs upgrading in this system!. Vaicom user and what a superb freebie it is! Virpil Mongoose T50M3 base & Mongoose CM2 Grip (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS collective with counterbalance kit (woof woof). Virpil Apache Grip (OMG). MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound... goodbye VRS.
Brisse Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 GMTI in 1969? Let's not expect too much from these old radars. Wouldn't GMTI require a doppler radar?
Hook47 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 So having recently discovered this awesome plane has been leaked as coming to us, my first question would be what purpose can the A2A radar serve? Is it for ranging and SA only? Can Seeker heads be slaved to it? Also curious about the purpose for the A2G radar. Can this interact with any weapons or is it for SA purposes only?
PiedDroit Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 So having recently discovered this awesome plane has been leaked as coming to us, my first question would be what purpose can the A2A radar serve? Is it for ranging and SA only? Can Seeker heads be slaved to it? Also curious about the purpose for the A2G radar. Can this interact with any weapons or is it for SA purposes only? From the wikipedia page (I know, not the best source, etc), they say the Viggen was mean to replace both attack and fighter planes. The AJ version (initial variant) was meant for attack with a secondary intercept role. Which explains the A2A radar. I don't know the technical details...
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