Paradox Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Can this version of the Harrier designate a target optically via the HUD and set it as SPI like on the A-10C? So you can designate a point on the ground for a GBU-38 to hit? I don't actually know how that works from a technical perspective on the A-10 I assume it's the GPS/INS system that allows you to do that
phant Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 You'd be surprised how straightforward it actually is. I've taken a ton of lessons from our first go around with the M-2000C which GREATLY accelerates the development process for the EFM. To add to it, there are numerous research reports on the AV-8 family of aircraft so I'm super happy there is much more data to be able to start with than with our first project. The other thing that is great, is that the EFM interface is just a way for us to send forces, moments, inertias, and weights to the sim. Which are the most basic ingredients for modeling a moving object. What the means is we have full control over the entire way the aircraft moves without compromise. The great advantage comes with the easy of modeling thrust vectoring as well as the reaction control thrusters. We can just direct the force or moment where and how we want with no gimmicks. Does Harrier have some sort of FBW? Bye Phant
Sweep Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Can this version of the Harrier designate a target optically via the HUD and set it as SPI like on the A-10C? So you can designate a point on the ground for a GBU-38 to hit? I don't actually know how that works from a technical perspective on the A-10 I assume it's the GPS/INS system that allows you to do that Don't see why it shouldn't. Marking stuff is a pretty standard and necessary capability. Lord of Salt
Zeus67 Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) What are the differences between this Free Flying Rockets and the commonly known Folding Fin Rockets? So far I have only found this on USMC aerial rockets https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trngcmd.marines.mil%2FLinkClick.aspx%3Ffileticket%3DTSggGjF7nDA%253D%26tabid%3D22537%26portalid%3D207%26mid%3D53178 I found this book about ordnance https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.courses.netc.navy.mil%2Fcourses%2F14014A%2F14014A_ch9.pdf None, they are the same. "Free Flying" just means that they are not guided. I think that "Folding Fin" is an US naming convention based on the fact that the fins are folded against the rocket's body. Free Flying I have seen in many munitions literature and they encompass all non guided aerial rockets. They are also called FFAR (Free Flying Aerial Rocket). Edited February 13, 2017 by Zeus67 "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Zeus67 Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Can this version of the Harrier designate a target optically via the HUD and set it as SPI like on the A-10C? So you can designate a point on the ground for a GBU-38 to hit? I don't actually know how that works from a technical perspective on the A-10 I assume it's the GPS/INS system that allows you to do that I think it is the LITENING that allows you to do that. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Vitormouraa Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Does Harrier have some sort of FBW? Bye Phant The Harrier is VERY similar to the A-10, both don't have Fly by Wire, however they have the Stability Augmentation System (SAS), which increases the stability and the pilots inputs, though the difference between A-10 and Harrier is that the Harrier has 3 SAS modes, Yaw, Pitch and Roll, the A-10C has only 2, Pitch and Yaw. The Harrier also has a similar autopilot. Not only have these similar systems, but the Flight Controls systems are similar too I would say, aileron, rudder and the elevator are hydraulically powered. Both use cables, rods etc.. SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com
robmlufc Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 The Harrier is VERY similar to the A-10, both don't have Fly by Wire, however they have the Stability Augmentation System (SAS), which increases the stability and the pilots inputs, though the difference between A-10 and Harrier is that the Harrier has 3 SAS modes, Yaw, Pitch and Roll, the A-10C has only 2, Pitch and Yaw. The Harrier also has a similar autopilot. Not only have these similar systems, but the Flight Controls systems are similar too I would say, aileron, rudder and the elevator are hydraulically powered. Both use cables, rods etc.. Spot on! The Harrier system is called SAAHS (Stability Augmentation and Attitude Hold System). It also assists the pilot in a hover, with the RCS valves being mechanically linked to the control surfaces with rods.
Skitter Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Hey guys! Wonder if you know anything about the TGP for the Harrier ? Will it be re-moded ? The A-10C FLIR sucks big time.
Khamul Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 I wasn't aware of that. I checked, the GUB-31 is based on the MK-84 so that one is out. The AV-8B does not carry MK-84s. The GBU-38 is based on the MK-82 so that one will be included. Thanks for the help! JDAM-equipped bombs are guided by an integrated inertial guidance system coupled to a Global Positioning System (GPS) receiver (wiki font). This means the Night Attack will be capable of the same nav system of the A-10C? I would think that only the AV-8B+ was able of carrying JDAM's. Maybe I'm wrong. TU NE CEDE MALIS SED CONTRA AUDENTIOR ITO _________________________________________ Asrock Fatal1ty Gaming K6+, i5-6600K, 32 GB DDR4, Asus GTX 1070 Strix, SSD 500GB, HDD 1TB, Win 10 x64, Monitor LG Ultrawide 29UM67, Soundblaster Z+Sennheiser Game One, HOTAS Warthog, TFRP Thrustmaster, TrackIr
jojo Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 JDAM-equipped bombs are guided by an integrated inertial guidance system coupled to a Global Positioning System (GPS) receiver (wiki font). This means the Night Attack will be capable of the same nav system of the A-10C? I would think that only the AV-8B+ was able of carrying JDAM's. Maybe I'm wrong. GBU-54 LJDAM on the right wing, GBU-38 JDAM on the left wing and laser pod under fuselage: Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
Silver_Dragon Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 JDAM capable from 2012 http://www.dtic.mil/descriptivesum/Y2012/Navy/stamped/0604214N_5_PB_2012.pdf BRU-70 triple ejectors JDAM capable from 2015 http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/year-2015-news/march-2015-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/2469-navair-fits-us-marine-corps-av-8b-harrier-jets-with-new-digital-technology-to-expand-mission.html http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.NAVAIRNewsStory&id=5852 Spanish navy updated your AV-8B to JDAM capable and triple ejectors (2015) (on spanish) http://www.defensa.com/frontend/defensa/modernizacion-harrier-armada-espanola-vn16404-vst154 For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
ebabil Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 how are we going to use nozzles directions? with an axis? and will we able to see its status via flight indicator screen? FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Exile5121 Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Anyone have a station map for external stores? I wanna know how many Zuni's I can pack on the thing
iLOVEwindmills Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Hey guys! Wonder if you know anything about the TGP for the Harrier ? Will it be re-moded ? The A-10C FLIR sucks big time. This has nothing to do with how the litening pod is modelled, it depends on how FLIR in general is applied currently and we will need to wait for ED to finish their improvements on this.
robmlufc Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 how are we going to use nozzles directions? with an axis? and will we able to see its status via flight indicator screen? I'm pretty sure the nozzles will be mappable to an axis, I'm sure that's how they are on the FSX version? The nozzle position is displayed on the EPI (Engine Performance Indicator), top right of the cockpit. Along with JPT, water flow, stab position, duct pressure, engine rpm and fuel flow.
comie1 Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Zeus67 does this come with the GAU 12 POD or are there varriants of this to choose from? Thx [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] https://www.twitch.tv/comie1
fixen Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Hey Zeus, since you guys are making a Laser Maverick, any thoughts on APKWS? Since the first variant of APKWS for harriers was introduced in March 2016 (and I am not sure if they are allready combat ready), it might be a bit to new.
Zeus67 Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 how are we going to use nozzles directions? with an axis? and will we able to see its status via flight indicator screen? You will be able to move the nozzles with both keyboard and axis. The nozzles orientation is provided in the Engine Display Panel: "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Khamul Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 GBU-54 LJDAM on the right wing, GBU-38 JDAM on the left wing and laser pod under fuselage: Great correction! +1 to buy it!!:thumbup: TU NE CEDE MALIS SED CONTRA AUDENTIOR ITO _________________________________________ Asrock Fatal1ty Gaming K6+, i5-6600K, 32 GB DDR4, Asus GTX 1070 Strix, SSD 500GB, HDD 1TB, Win 10 x64, Monitor LG Ultrawide 29UM67, Soundblaster Z+Sennheiser Game One, HOTAS Warthog, TFRP Thrustmaster, TrackIr
Zeus67 Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Zeus67 does this come with the GAU 12 POD or are there varriants of this to choose from? Thx I am working with GAU 12 at this moment. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Tirak Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Since the first variant of APKWS for harriers was introduced in March 2016 (and I am not sure if they are allready combat ready), it might be a bit to new. Yes but it's an incredibly simple system from a sim perspective.
joey45 Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Pretty much laser guided rockets. using mobile The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Aginor Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Does anyone know whether the Mk-81 is still in service or when it was retired? We just had a small discussion about that on the german forums because I thought it was retired from all US forces after Vietnam but I can't find a good source for that anymore. It may have been the USAF only because it is still listed in listed in the "NAVAIR 00-110AV8-4" from 1986 (page 12) but I have no newer source than that available. I wouldn't mind to be able to throw the old firecracker, I just wondered. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
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