Flia Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Releasing Harrier today ? PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II
drPhibes Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Not to sound like a broken record, but when exactly is it coming out? Around next week? Right? RIGHT?? RIGHT?! Releasing Harrier today ? All release dates are published here. If there are no news there are no news: ...and as a side note, I'm happy to see (in the f-18 subforum) that someone else also dislikes the constant nagging about release dates: 2
Zeus67 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 If you don't quiet down, I will turn this thread around! :smartass: On a more serious note, ED is the one who is going to make the announcement. We cannot and won't comment on the issue. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
MikeMikeJuliet Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 A good return to form. If there is a release date given: you would know. And if you didn't, it means you are not following the most important forum thread - the official news. That said I see no harm in speculation. Those are two different things. Reading the newsletter should be highly recommended prior to posting on the forums? 1 DCS Finland | SF squadron
javelina1 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 it's all part of the hype and fun.... Like waiting for Santa... It'll be here soon, (if you're not on the naughty list). :-) 1 MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
joey45 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 it's all part of the hype and fun.... Like waiting for Santa... It'll be here soon, (if you're not on the naughty list). :-)I'm always on the naughty list... on ma mobile 1 The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Robert31178 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Don't make Zues come back to the backseat and whup ya!!
Buckeye Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 it's all part of the hype and fun.... Like waiting for Santa... It'll be here soon, (if you're not on the naughty list). :-) 1 Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
bart Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) /\ /\ /\ Hi Grandpa.......Bye Grandpa /\ /\ That said I see no harm in speculation. Those are two different things. Agree here. Folk are just a wee bit excited about this module and impatience may be creeping in a little. After all "It's a lot more bother with a Hover"!! Edited November 22, 2017 by bart 1 System :- i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12 core, ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming, 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz, 24GB Asus ROG Strix Geforce RTX 3090, 1x 500GB Samsung 980 PRO M.2, 1x 2TB Samsung 980 PRO M.2, Corsair 1000W RMx Series Modular 80 Plus Gold PSU, Windows 10. VIRPIL VPC WarBRD Base with HOTAS Warthog Stick and Warthog Throttle, VIRPIL ACE Interceptor Pedals, VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus Base with a Hawk-60 Grip, HP Reverb G2.
DefaultFace Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 more Nozzle glow @2:15. also a cool channel for harrier vids. 3 9./JG27 "If you can't hit anything, it's because you suck. If you get shot down, it's because you suck. You and me, we know we suck, and that makes it ok." - Worst person in all of DCS "In the end, which will never come, we will all be satisifed... we must fight them on forum, we will fight them on reddit..." - Dunravin
Winterz Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 Nozzle glow as shown by Razbam atm need to be tweaked for daytime. Way too bright.
Scrape Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 Nozzle glow as shown by Razbam atm need to be tweaked for daytime. Way too bright. They said it would, it's brighter than normal for testing purposes. The video posted was some raw footage from testing. "It's amazing, even at the Formula 1 level how many drivers still think the brakes are for slowing the car down."
Ulfr85 Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 What is the Loiter Time of the Harrier compared to the A10C? Is it about the same or is the Harrier on the way back much faster than the A10C? F/A-18C, AV-8B, Huey, Ka-50, Mig-21, A10C, FC3, BF-109, M2000C, AJS-37, P-51 Ryzen 5 2600 ~4Ghz, 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz, EVGA GTX 1070
BlazingTrigger Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 The harrier has less loiter time than the A10 I believe however it's a faster aircraft and because of this it can get to Troops in contact a lot faster than the A10 but at the cost of fuel. However you put a tanker a short flight away and you can easily as with any jet stay on station longer. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Esac_mirmidon Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Well the strong point of the Harrier is beeing deployed very close to the FEBA in FARPs next to the front so the flight times are very short. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
some1 Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) Well the strong point of the Harrier is beeing deployed very close to the FEBA in FARPs next to the front so the flight times are very short. Except, to my knowledge, they were never used from FARPs in any real conflict. Ships yes, but these are sometimes even further from the target. Half of the stories in "Joint Force Harrier" and "A nightmare's prayer" are about A2A refuelling or getting hairy low on fuel, or both. Refuelling twice per sortie was nothing unusual. Edited November 24, 2017 by some1 Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
Esac_mirmidon Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 There are plenty of pics, videos and books about the Harrier beeing deployed in the middle of a german forest using FARPS with metal plates for taxi and take off. Common use in Europe in the Cold War. Thanks Lord a war in Europe never came so this forward deployment thousands of times used by the RAF Germany never were needed in a real conflict. But yes Harriers were deployed in FARPs in the middle of the German forest next to the FEBA at minutes of the front line, or "supossed" front line. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
NeilWillis Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 The GR3 Harriers in the Falklands were operated from a FARP in the final stages of the conflict. It's not a huge leap to allow the N/A to do so is it?
some1 Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 I haven't said they didn't train to do so. But to this day, it's still disputed if that is a viable strategy to operate a very expensive and maintenance heavy jet aircraft. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
Harry.R Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 I understand USMC Harriers used a FARP near Baghdad during Gulf war 2.
NeilWillis Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 They were operated, in a war situation in the Falklands from an improvised FARP. It was no training exercise.
Esac_mirmidon Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Thats my point. And why the Harrier is so unique and special. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
Sephyrius Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Except, to my knowledge, they were never used from FARPs in any real conflict. Ships yes, but these are sometimes even further from the target. Half of the stories in "Joint Force Harrier" and "A nightmare's prayer" are about A2A refuelling or getting hairy low on fuel, or both. Refuelling twice per sortie was nothing unusual. Here's a post from earlier in this thread. I was in the Marines at a FARP during Desert Storm at a place called Tanajib Airport which was mostly AH-1W Cobras and Harriers. We had to build a runway with these giant aluminum rectangles that locked together because apparently a Harrier cant land or take off on just an everyday runway, it will blow away the concrete, or at least thats what we were told. And 's the video clip in which that base is being referred to ("forward basing concept", "40 miles from the enemy")as well as the bigger picture of it, the role/prowess of the Harrier, and the benefits it had to doing sorties from the carrier (which, as you say and is also mentioned, required long flights and several refueling runs).
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