Einherjer Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Hi there. Was reading in the manual and I am a little shocked that the A/A T/R tacan will not be implemented?! Does it mean it never will be implemented or not by now?! Would be a really good function to find the FAC or another F-5 flying around in the target area... Edited July 6, 2016 by Einherjer
SNAFU Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 It is implemented in the A-10C, so should not be too much to add this function to the Tiger, if this was part of the F-5E modell. Helps also in BFM training. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Unsere Facebook-Seite
Manuel_108 Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 I was thinking the same. Would be very odd if they left it out.
Ala13_ManOWar Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 If I'm reading correctly it says about A/A, "receiving bearing information from specially equipped air-to-air stations". Is the F-5 itself a "specially equipped air-to-air station or is any other in-game aircraft? Still, the Rec mode is supposed to work, so you get bearing, just lacking distance. Is it really so a big deal? S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
Flamin_Squirrel Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 If I'm reading correctly it says about A/A, "receiving bearing information from specially equipped air-to-air stations". Is the F-5 itself a "specially equipped air-to-air station or is any other in-game aircraft? A/A refuelers are. Don't think anything else (including F-5) is. Still, the Rec mode is supposed to work, so you get bearing, just lacking distance. Is it really so a big deal? S! I don't remember the precise details, but I believe 2 aircraft with TACAN can establish their distance between eachother, but not bearing. The first aircraft selects a channel, the second one selects a channel +/- 63 different. I've not tried this in multiplayer myself though.
Eddie Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 Any two TACAN equipped aircraft can obtain distance from each other, this is known as TACAN Yardstick as is used for formation keeping and rejoins etc. If this isn't modelled it will be a big omission, especially as it's the only tool to assist with formation work in the F-5E. It is indeed modelled in the A-10C, not sure about other TACAN equipped modules though. As far as bearing, very few aircraft can provide that in reality (the KC-135 can't).
Ala13_ManOWar Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 A/A refuelers are. Don't think anything else (including F-5) is. I don't remember the precise details, but I believe 2 aircraft with TACAN can establish their distance between eachother, but not bearing. The first aircraft selects a channel, the second one selects a channel +/- 63 different. I've not tried this in multiplayer myself though.Good to know, thanks!! :thumbup: So that's a nice system to use in game provided it works. I'll keep in mind. Well, lets expect "not implemented" means it's just a beta lacking feature. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
ED Team cofcorpse Posted July 6, 2016 ED Team Posted July 6, 2016 It is indeed modelled in the A-10C, not sure about other TACAN equipped modules though. Does this work with a AI craft? What should I do to receive range to AI craft?
Eddie Posted July 6, 2016 Posted July 6, 2016 Does this work with a AI craft? No it doesn't (apart from KC-135) player/client only in MP. Two aircraft must set a TACAN 63 channels apart from each other (eg 01Y for lead & 64Y for wing). There's no option to set this for the AI.
ED Team cofcorpse Posted July 6, 2016 ED Team Posted July 6, 2016 No it doesn't (apart from KC-135) player/client only in MP. Thanks!
ED Team cofcorpse Posted July 7, 2016 ED Team Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) Good news everyone! A/A T/R is implemented and working in multiplayer. We will fix it in the manual. Edited July 7, 2016 by cofcorpse
Einherjer Posted July 7, 2016 Author Posted July 7, 2016 Oh! Thanks for this fast response! Thanks a lot!
grunf Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 Good news everyone! A/A T/R is implemented and working in multiplayer. We will fix it in the manual. That was fast. :D Thank you! :thumbup:
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QuiGon Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 Good news everyone! A/A T/R is implemented and working in multiplayer. We will fix it in the manual. :megalol: :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
mmaclauchlan Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 Quick response on that one! Great work, Belsimtek! Mags Quest 2, VKB controls, MFG Crosswinds
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Schmidtfire Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 So with A/A T/R do we get range and bearing, or is it range information only?
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Ramsay Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 So with A/A T/R do we get range and bearing, or is it range information only? Range only. Why do you think A/A T/R doesn't give range and bearing? Page 106 (1-92) of TO 1F-5E-1 on the ARN-118 14 Function Selector Switch OFF —Turns off power. REC — Receiving identification signals from selected station and provides bearing to station. T/R — Transmitting and receiving. Provides bearing and range to station. A/A REC — receiving identification signals from selected airborne station and provides bearing to station. A/A T/R — Transmitting and receiving. Provides bearing and range to selected airborne station. i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
Eddie Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 Because it doesn't. Not unless the cooperating station is able to provide bearing data. Which aside from the KC-10 other aircraft cannot do. The bearing element of TACAN requires a rotating signal synchronised with the ranging pulses in order for the receiver to derive bearing to the station. Aircraft only have the ranging portion of the system. In short the F-5E, A-10, and I any other tactical aircraft you care to name with TACAN can receive and display range and bearing via TACAN, but they can only provide range to others. 1
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