Operation "Blue Flag" - 24/7 PvP Campaign - ROUND 9

[Frostie]

Again, not a fair game blue team.

Administrators where are you?

Yes I agree, copying one persons dirty trick that has been highlighted as unfair play is not clever.

Seeing it happen way too often from blue side now.

[microvax]

Yeah its annoying AF from both sides.

 

Annoyed in the same way by it as flankers with gear problems. I just do not get why people play a sim and then try to gain an unfair advantage by the rules of the scenario.

[levanoga]

 

It was a pretty nice furball against those overpowered ET launchers with the flightmodel of a skateboard. Raptor had it on video.

 

 

Nice example how communication runs on blue.

 

 

Yes I agree, copying one persons dirty trick that has been highlighted as unfair play is not clever.

Seeing it happen way too often from blue side now.

They learn from the best, from regular red players.

[Frostie]

Yeah its annoying AF from both sides.

 

Annoyed in the same way by it as flankers with gear problems. I just do not get why people play a sim and then try to gain an unfair advantage by the rules of the scenario.

 

While I don't like the gear exploit, a comparison using this trick took the Flanker 4 minutes to be ready for spool up, for an F-15 to take 3 bags and equivalent fuel to a full Flanker took 4 minutes also. For an F-15 to have 50% fuel (60% of Flanker) and weapons takes 30 seconds (the time to rearm), this happened a lot after every restart F-15s would be airbourne immediately stopping strikers and choppers etc. while Flankers would be still refuelling because 20% would take them only one way if that. It is easy to understand the frustration of Flanker pilots not able to help their strikers whilst F-15s were free to stop them.

So in the context of BF gameplay it is not game breaking or unbalancing but in the context of simulation it is just daft, it is simpler and more beneficial just to take less fuel.

[Nero.ger]

sometimes i wonder if it would be easier to designe a Mission/Campaign/thingy thats asymetric from the beginning instead of trying to achieve the impossible like balancing planes from east/west

[Bersagliere81]

To cut the discussion: remove Su-33, Su-27 and F-15 :D. Leave MiG-29 for RED and M-2000C for BLUE.

 

Approved!

[kobeshow]

 

They learn from the best, from regular red players.

 

 

:doh: We should all just avoid comments like these, we have seen in the past where it leads when someone says X side does this and that therefore we are "only defending ourselves"

 

Neither Blue or Red are full of cheaters/exploiters, we all have a list of things that we think the other side does that are unfair, but we should stick to pointing out the issues, not pointing fingers.

[levanoga]

:doh: We should all just avoid comments like these, we have seen in the past where it leads when someone says X side does this and that therefore we are "only defending ourselves"

 

Neither Blue or Red are full of cheaters/exploiters, we all have a list of things that we think the other side does that are unfair, but we should stick to pointing out the issues, not pointing fingers.

 

Interesting, I said the same thing a couple of pages back yet somehow people still come here thinking that it is a good idea to post the way others cheat/abuse the system thinking no one is going to copy it. And posting that in thread with over 72.000 views so far.

[Zulu]

It was a pretty nice furball against those overpowered ET launchers with the flightmodel of a skateboard. Raptor had it on video. :thumbup:

 

 

Hey, I gotta watch that one 'live' hugging the deck in my A10!

 

Sure is a nice feeling being down there seeing all those splashes knowing you're being looked out for :) :thumbup:

Edited March 6, 2017 by Zulu

[Leutnant_Artur]

Do you know why Blue side has so cool communication on radio ? Because on RED side only few guys use SRS :mad:

[Pronin]

Do you know why Blue side has so cool communication on radio ? Because on RED side only few guys use SRS :mad:

 

Me and my friends use a TS and have our own GCI. Our communication is as good if not better.

 

Can't be assed to set up simple radio when nobody on red uses it anyway.

[Leutnant_Artur]

Me and my friends use a TS and have our own GCI. Our communication is as good if not better.

 

Can't be assed to set up simple radio when nobody on red uses it anyway.

 

Im flying RED with ka50 and using SRS all the time but even when I do radio check I have no response.

 

I like using SRS it gives some immersion, this server supports it and I will not go on teamspeak. Next campaign I fly blue side.

[Pronin]

Im flying RED with ka50 and using SRS all the time but even when I do radio check I have no response.

 

I like using SRS it gives some immersion, this server supports it and I will not go on teamspeak. Next campaign I fly blue side.

 

The website shows who is using it or not. If you check right now, almost all of Blue is using it, while only 3 people on Red are.

 

Like I said, if nobody uses it, I'm not going to bother installing it.

 

I think there is a Blue Flag TS that you could use though.

[Ciribob]

The website shows who is using it or not. If you check right now, almost all of Blue is using it, while only 3 people on Red are.

 

Like I said, if nobody uses it, I'm not going to bother installing it.

 

I think there is a Blue Flag TS that you could use though.

 

If everyone thinks like that, no one will use it...

 

If you want to use it, use it, lead by example and convince others :)

 

Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk

[Pronin]

If everyone thinks like that, no one will use it...

 

If you want to use it, use it, lead by example and convince others :)

 

Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk

 

Lets make a deal. I convince my friends to use it, and you convince ED to make it part of the game since its a damn shame that the "premiere combat flight simulator" has 0 built in radio functionality. :smilewink:

 

Even a mod like BMS has it, and it works beautifully.

[Nero.ger]

i actualy regretting joining the Red side, because i like ...i dont know...coordinate with people (some are on Coms,yes but few)

 

wish it was like the TAW caucasus campaign where you get kicked if you are not on Coms. If you just want to play with your friends maybe a Public server is not for you.

 

maybe we can change the sides to "Winners" and "Socializers" :-D

[OperatorJack]

Lets make a deal. I convince my friends to use it, and you convince ED to make it part of the game since its a damn shame that the "premiere combat flight simulator" has 0 built in radio functionality. :smilewink:

 

Even a mod like BMS has it, and it works beautifully.

 

The sad part is all the stuff needed in game for radios is already modelled. DCS just has no built in voice client to transmit voices over the radios.

 

One of many arguably essential missing features in this fantastic "sim"

[ScopeDope]

WAAAAA too many blue players! Red has no chance!

 

Sorry, I had nothing better to do in the 7 minutes it takes to put gas in my F-15. Off to die to a red wall of CAP.

[Oceandar]

Its nothing compared to some of red players in the past 2 rounds back where the number 1 vs 10 for blue advantage. It ever happened to me or Daniel or Frostie fight alone on the red side but since it merely a test phase I think we were just trying have some fun and train our SA and skill in the hardest way. You should try it, its actually fun.

[firmek]

WAAAAA too many blue players! Red has no chance!

 

Sorry, I had nothing better to do in the 7 minutes it takes to put gas in my F-15. Off to die to a red wall of CAP.

Yeap, a really constructive post. First time the numbers are like that from many days. I guess looking at average server population doesn't count. Server is disbalanced from many weeks but for a single moment Blue gets a few players more (nothing even close to 4-1 that blue has advantage most of the time) - you need to rush to cry about it.

And yes, the 7 minutes must be a disaster to get that missile truck in the air. Nothing like starting up a full fidelity module, like Ka-50, setting nav plan in ABRIS, PVI-800 - 15 minutes on average. Aligning NAV in Mirage - 8 minutes (IIRC), plus time to set up some NAV points. But well, make the F-15 fully tanked so you can press shift-l and shift-home to get it ready in few seconds.

[ScopeDope]

Yeap, a really constructive post. First time the numbers are like that from many days. I guess looking at average server population doesn't count. Server is disbalanced from many weeks but for a single moment Blue gets a few players more (nothing even close to 4-1 that blue has advantage most of the time) - you need to rush to cry about it.

And yes, the 7 minutes must be a disaster to get that missile truck in the air. Nothing like starting up a full fidelity module, like Ka-50, setting nav plan in ABRIS, PVI-800 - 15 minutes on average. Aligning NAV in Mirage - 8 minutes (IIRC), plus time to set up some NAV points. But well, make the F-15 fully tanked so you can press shift-l and shift-home to get it ready in few seconds.

 

A) I was not rushing to cry, merely trying to point out that the endless red whining is a bit unfounded at times, I have been on all day and there was maybe 1/2 a session where it was Blue outnumbering Red, the rest has either been red almost double, or about even. I will make it a point to say that any time it is somewhat even Blue struggles to gain any ground what so ever (I argue that we have way more retards on blue for sure). That's good on Red, wish we could muster the CAP that Red can instead of useless people wandering the map on sightseeing flights.

 

B) You don't need to lecture me on startup. I fly almost all modules, if fact I prefer the Mirage in CAP because it takes 1/2 the time to start up as the -15. If you are aligning the INS in mirage you are either hardcore for realism or dumb that you didn't uncheck that box in your menu (either way not my fault). I really wasn't complaining about the F-15 fuel time I totally understand the reason it's like that. It was more of an satirical comment.

[Frostie]

And yes, the 7 minutes must be a disaster to get that missile truck in the air. Nothing like starting up a full fidelity module, like Ka-50, setting nav plan in ABRIS, PVI-800 - 15 minutes on average. Aligning NAV in Mirage - 8 minutes (IIRC), plus time to set up some NAV points. But well, make the F-15 fully tanked so you can press shift-l and shift-home to get it ready in few seconds.

 

You do know you can nav plan the Ka50 in the air right. Plus you get god mode see all enemy targets just to make it easy.:)

Edited March 7, 2017 by Frostie

[Cisco]

Guys, im announcing simple radio day. Friday march 10 will be simple radio day. Encourage everyone in chat to be ready to use simple radio on march 10th. If they ask why tell them that no server lag and good calcium for strong bones will come to those who use simple radio on march 10th.

 

Happy simple radio day on march 10th.

 

Users who does not use simple radio on friday will be made fun of for knitting socks and playing with dolls.

[Cisco]

[CrashO]

You should advertise SR day in Russian. Seeing blue doesn't need a special day but just has simple radio day, every day. :D