ED agreed...The Mig 21 "CAN" be added ONLY IF...

[EagleEye]

Why it`s a pity that Lockon ends with BS? The Tank Killer simulation with a new engine sounds great for me. New possibilitis with new engine!:)

 

Maybe ED works so hard on completion BS, so they cannot reply request about the Mig21.

[7rooper]

Or maybe they have BS so delayed that they don't even want to hurry up whoever is working on this.

[VMFA-Blaze]

I just noticed the attachments ... Very Cool...

 

 

~S~

 

Blaze

[Kusch]

Bump!

 

[monotwix]

O yes modeling time.

[VMFA117_Poko]

Any update or is this project dead? :huh:

[SuperKungFu]

THe MiG-21 is probably in the same boat as Strike's Su-27. This is from the email i got from him last

Unfortunately, the su27 project is on hold for the time being due to work overload. Never the less, Im deeply sunk in 3d, but in AutoCad, as im responsible for building services coordination for a couple of huge construction projects. Thats a very, very demanding job and hopefully the time will come where I reach "Typical-Floors" and will have some time to spare for the Sukhoi.

 

So we can all understand that personal life comes first. Hopefully when CAW site goes up, they can provide some modelers to take on some of these projects.

[VMFA117_Poko]

So we can all understand that personal life comes first. Hopefully when CAW site goes up, they can provide some modelers to take on some of these projects.

Naturally personal life comes first. That's obvious and no complaining. Thanks for update SuperKungFu.

[flanker1]

hey folks,

 

does anybody know if somebody is still working on a 3d model of this beauty for lockon?

 

http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/bill_spidle/mig-21smt_walk_1.htm

 

yokon fly maybe?

 

he had the basics after modelling the chines j7. . .

[cristi]

Guys you don't know how much i hate this plane...we have it in the airforce from many years.:mad:......they will be changed soon

 

But i will love to have one in BS :D:D:D

 

A link here :http://www.roaf.ro/ro/galerie/mig21/galerie_mig21.php?lang=ro

[zaelu]

Ha Ha... I kinda hate it too a bit. In Romania people are making jokes about the poor old "pipe" since they started to have many severe accidents... The Mig 21 had became famous in agriculture for ploughing usage because of that :) .

 

But hearing it's roaring thunder engine at airshows makes you forget all that. Last 2 years at Kogalniceanu base airshows 'he' stood its ground before the crowd against F-16, Saab, Mirages, F5s by puting impresive shows for an oldie.

Here are 3 pics made by others at last year airshow. sorry if they are a repost... but they are kewl :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

:pilotfly:

[cristi]

Yep that's true

 

I hope they will change it with Grippen not F-16

 

P.S Zaelu i was on that Airshow

[Steinhoff]

Just found thist thread, and as u know I cant read all pages, but the Mig.21 would be ultracool as a flyable in LO. Especially with those older different missiles!

 

Anyone tried captainsims Mig-21?

[Kuky]

bump... now that another MiG-21 3D model is WIP :)

[HungaroJET]

bump... now that another MiG-21 3D model is WIP :)

 

...so do You think that we may start living in hopes and to pray ? ;)

[Kuky]

er... I hope... surely they could get data on the MiG-21 as it's pretty much out of service everywhere... if the MiG-21 model is done accurade enough and to good standards... I guess I am bit hopeful :) Maybe we get DCS MiG-21 ;)

Edited March 22, 2009 by Kuky

[Vekkinho]

With Beczl's bis model coming fast I believe it's possible.

 

AFAIK Ulrich and Coyote support Bezcl here!

[Alper22]

You guys gonna add Mig-21 avionics too?

[Vekkinho]

^^^^^

Unfortunately not at this moment, to do that we'll need lots of input from ED, but we all hope it's possible in the future with DCS or perhaps ED already considers advanced flight model of a Fishbed!

 

All we can do with MiG-21 is edit of a weight, ceiling and speed of a certain model it's gonna replace. So in case of a MiG-21bis replacing Su-17M4 we'd have to edit thrust to weight ratio in order to have close as possible MiG-21 performance in the LOFC!

 

So no AFM, detailed damage model and cockpit at this moment!

[NRG-Vampire]

Hello guys,

 

I contacted chizh about PROPERLY implementing a Mig 21 into the game. He replied back saying this:

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Despite that we extremely busy with helicopters and around issues, we can spend some time for inserting AI MiG-21 if anybody finished it with proper animation and at least basic damages.

Although by the highest standards will good to rework model because shape isn’t correct in some parts, for example very incorrect forward part of canopy.

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Comeon guys, everyone knows this is a classic. Imgine the movie like scenarios we can make. Considering that bS is lomac's last addon...its now or never. Once ED start working on their new project...who knows when they will bother with lomac again.

 

I searched up the threads and found achlatoon's files:

 

http://www.alegtoon.nl/files/

 

http://www.alegtoon.nl/files/mig21.zip

 

get it and the model should be right in the first directory. Walmis, I know you are making the F-15 and you are busy with it. But consider adding the good old Mig 21 to the game....one of the famous planes of history. Comeon guys, I wouldn't ask if I knew how to model. Just finish up the damage model as chizh says and the animations too...and atleast let them implement whatever we have so far. We can probably get someone to change the model later on if necessary. Atleast let us get a proper MIG 21 implementation from ED directly. Instead of us messing up the meinit..etc... ED know how to properly model it...they can add the right systems etc.

 

I agree to do the skinning if someone finishes the models. :P

 

And I agree to give you a bribe of 1 full rep for finishing the model as well. :p

 

cheers,

 

Aquarius_varun

 

 

Bump :doh: 2 years gone !

 

I hope that E.D. will add MiG-21bis into DCS,FC3 ;) (maybe Beczl's model - who dont know him ?) or at least changeing the "empty" Tu-141, Tu-143 FM parameters (unused slots) to MiG-21 FlightMmodel parameters.

There are one more unused "slot": EA-6B...but i hope this will be used soon :thumbup:

 

E.D. ? Will you ?

[beczl]

Don't worry man. We very close to finish the Mig-21 for FC2. All avionics, radar, weapon handling, FM, weapons are very close the real performance as well I promise. :-)

[john_X]

beczl think at my offer. it would look even better and without modifying textures, animations, damage model or anything else. and because it's just a small modify it wouldn't last more than 2-3 days, it's a promise. nothing to loose, the best looking to win...

[NRG-Vampire]

think at my offer..

 

Would be the best if E.D. add the MiG-21bis as official aircraft into FMBase.dll instead of Tu-141 or Tu-143 :thumbup: and add into DCS:WH also at least the FM :worthy::kiss: :lol:

 

Types.lua, wsTypes.lua:

 

planes_types[35 ]= {wsType_Air, wsType_Airplane, wsType_Cruiser,Tu_143} -- 35

planes_types[36 ]= {wsType_Air, wsType_Airplane, wsType_Cruiser,Tu_141} -- 36

:doh:

[beczl]

beczl think at my offer. it would look even better and without modifying textures, animations, damage model or anything else. and because it's just a small modify it wouldn't last more than 2-3 days, it's a promise. nothing to loose, the best looking to win...

As I already mentioned it's won't possible due the 3d model contain more than 200 animation groups and args. Unfortunately if you break these groups in 3DS Max with ungroup command the whole visibility and curve arguments that assigned into this groups are gone.

 

Would be the best if E.D. add the MiG-21bis as official aircraft into FMBase.dll instead of Tu-141 or Tu-143 and add into DCS:WH also at least the FM

 

Types.lua, wsTypes.lua:

 

planes_types[35 ]= {wsType_Air, wsType_Airplane, wsType_Cruiser,Tu_143} -- 35

planes_types[36 ]= {wsType_Air, wsType_Airplane, wsType_Cruiser,Tu_141} -- 36

 

Well, I guess ED has an own project line so you never see a Mig-21 in any DCS product. That's the main reason why we (me and Dolphin887) working on this model lovely Mig-21 package.

 

P.S. I also working several other FC2 mod like this one: :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghiq9yl-HJM

[john_X]

oh, ok. didn't think you grouped some parts. then, you're right..