6 November update

[Esac_mirmidon]

Dont said that loud.

 

The complainers Army will get you in the dark......

[Ignition]

It looks like the F-18 is going to be in early access for another 5 years.

[159th_Viper]

It looks like the F-18 is going to be in early access for another 5 years.

 

Don't worry - I'm sure you're looking wrong :D

[Lixma 06]

Will this be available for the 1.5.xxx world or is it a 2.xxx exclusive?

[Neor]

Will this be available for the 1.5.xxx world or is it a 2.xxx exclusive?

 

Who knows? But 1.5 is a dead end... Dont think they will go with 1.5

[Atooyi]

+1

They need to emphasize this Early Access things so the forum shouldn't be flooded with countless whining and moaning instead of constructive feedback.

 

Reading what Matt post, I feel we're close to EA. Well, I hope

exactly!!! although I don't really like releasing the f-18 with less than 10% of it's capabilities, I really think they did the right thing to let us know what we're going to face at early access, anyone who doesn't like it this way (like me) can wait for a while until the hornet is complete! as simple as that!!!

[amazingme]

Just like Wags' said - early access isn't for everyone but for many it is. Me and many of my collegues are taking Hornet in EA as it is in present state. We will master all it can offer right now, will post bugs in proper way in proper part of the forum and will patiently wait for updates and upgrades. All people that don't like this idea just forget about it and please don't whine and let us get it. Please.

That's the spirit.

[Ignition]

Don't worry - I'm sure you're looking wrong :D

 

I meant 90% of the weapons and sensors will come after the "Early Access".

 

Thats still an Early Acces for me :music_whistling: and knowing the speed of development of ED, I think I'm not so mistaken.

 

But one way or another this is the best time of DCS since the release of the A-10C.

Looking forward to 2.5, F/A-18C, F-14, F-4 and AV-8B :pilotfly:

[BuzzU]

It will be the best time after everything is released. Not so much now.

[SkateZilla]

One should prolly learn the basics before ya start slinging amraams...

[Max_Rogue]

One should prolly learn the basics before ya start slinging amraams...

 

I think there are just too many people who should have stuck with Ace Combat. :music_whistling:

[BButcher94]

Does anyone know if we are getting new fire effects with the implementation of the MK-77s? Looking forward to hauling ass at low level and dropping fire bombs on some bad guys.

[StandingCow]

One should prolly learn the basics before ya start slinging amraams...

 

That's why I actually prefer to start a module during EA. It really lets you learn systems as they come online and it helps not to get overwhelmed.

[VMFA117_Poko]

^ Same here. I want to look everywhere under the hood and will train with my squad mates like noobies in "Jetstream" (theory > solo flights > formation flights > BFM > ACM > A-G with dumb weapons). There is one problem - flight manual. Are we getting this with EA?

[BuzzU]

If the early release is only part of what the plane will have later. Will it have a manual? Training missions? Missions? Carrier to land and launch from?

 

Or, will it be........here's the plane, see if you can figure it out.

[Ignition]

That's why I actually prefer to start a module during EA. It really lets you learn systems as they come online and it helps not to get overwhelmed.

 

You get overwhelmed because you try to learn everything at once, you don't need early access for that. You dont need to know how to drop dumb bombs to fire an amraam or maverick.

 

To be honest I'm really tired of today standards of realeasing Early Access for anything.

I know this is not the case with Eagle Dynamics but 90% of the games with early access end up beeing unfinished or really bad developed. Thats why I don't buy early access anymore.

 

I repeat this is not the case of ED, we know they make quality products and probably have the highest standards in simulations.

 

Am I going to buy the F/A-18C Early Access? probably yes, I've (we) been waiting for this plane for years now.

I still don't understand why the early access will come without precision bombs and agm-65.

[Esac_mirmidon]

Well, most of the weapons on the list are new in DCS, never used before on human pilots so i guess they need time for a complete representation.

 

This is the first time we are going to use laser mavs, Harms,JSOW, Harpoons, etc.

[rweaves6]

A manual would be nice but if it meant holding up the release in any way then I say release the manual later when it’s ready. After all, it doesn’t look like we will be getting any of the more advanced, sophisticated systems in the EA.

[Esac_mirmidon]

Some people will disagree not having a manual.

[VMFA117_Poko]

But speaking frankly manuals for Hornet are getatable on the web - for example VRS Superbug (yes, I know it's F/A-18E) and some part one the publicintelligence.net.

[Esac_mirmidon]

True, but personally i really appreciate a manual with the Early Access. Even one incomplete

[rweaves6]

Some people will disagree not having a manual.

 

Fair enough but I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't want ED to release the EA if the manual isn't ready. Unless I'm missing something, what difference would it make to those wanting one?

[probad]

just another thing that needs constant revision and creates complaints about how the lack of updating has completely ruined someone's virtual air force experience

 

i think its pretty whatever, manual or not, if youre actually interested you'll find the information you need

considering this aircraft already exists in reality

Edited November 9, 2017 by probad

[Esac_mirmidon]

Because the extra difficulty to learn from the beggining a so complex plane without a manual at hand.

[StandingCow]

You get overwhelmed because you try to learn everything at once, you don't need early access for that. You dont need to know how to drop dumb bombs to fire an amraam or maverick.

 

To be honest I'm really tired of today standards of realeasing Early Access for anything.

I know this is not the case with Eagle Dynamics but 90% of the games with early access end up beeing unfinished or really bad developed. Thats why I don't buy early access anymore.

 

I repeat this is not the case of ED, we know they make quality products and probably have the highest standards in simulations.

 

Am I going to buy the F/A-18C Early Access? probably yes, I've (we) been waiting for this plane for years now.

I still don't understand why the early access will come without precision bombs and agm-65.

 

What works for one person doesn't work for another. I find that only having access to a few things at once helps me master those systems before moving on to others, so it doesn't bother me that they aren't available.

 

Along those same lines Early Access isn't for everyone. I have no problem with it most of the time, I play a bit of the game to see what it's like, then don't touch it until a patch, or until it is finished.