AAR hose collision detection

[mr_mojo97]

About the only thing that annoys me is when I’m practicing my AAR is the hose going through the canopy when I mess up. Can we not have some collision detection and a thud or something? I’m sure a pilot would probably get grounded (prior to some DCS World training of course) for messing up that badly.

[mr_mojo97]

Must be just me then. Lol

[MurderOne]

It is kind of freaky having the basket swing through the cockpit when you are learning the system.

[ST0RM]

I had this very thing happen last night. Learning to refuel from the right drogue, I had several misses. A couple came through the cockpit.

 

To have the drogue hardened creates a double edged sword.

1) Adds realism

2) May cause damage to your aircraft/broken probe (casual player may not like this)

3) Damage to drogue itself (the spokes are notoriously fragile and are often bent if hit) forcing single pod ops

 

I like the idea, but know it would come with a mix of compliments and complaints.

[mr_mojo97]

Tbh, even if there was no damage to either drogue or aircraft that would suit me. Just some sort of collision detection.

As it stands the probe doesn’t sit right in the drought half the time either when connected (when I’m brave enough look left to see it!)

Edited December 13, 2017 by mr_mojo97

[Aginor]

Some physics for the drogue and the hose would be nice, yes.

[lemoen]

I agree. The next level of approximation up would be

 

* nicer ragdoll physics for the hose

* collisions with the basket / plane

* only allow connections from open end

* make it indestructible / no damage to plane

[ST0RM]

Oh yeah, forgot a factor. The nose of a receiver aircraft does push the drogue a bit, with it's small bow wave. Hence in some vids you'll notice the receiver do a rudder dance at last second.

[mr_mojo97]

And a nice little animation by RAZBAM of the basket coming out of the KC-130 fuel pod rather than just appearing fully opened would be nice as well.

My OP for this is because I spend a lot of time practicing AAR so these little things give a little bit more immersion.

Can't remember anything being said but it's the Great Merge soon so maybe.........

[NeilWillis]

Definitely need to have high fidelity for all aspects of AAR.

 

You can add position lights to the list too, and we badly need a working TACAN for the KC130.

 

I suspect Razbam have an enormous to do list, and I'd be very surprised if this stuff wasn't already on it.

[ebabil]

refueling is already very hard, :)

[NeilWillis]

If we wanted it easy we'd fly another flight sim!

 

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[Mars Exulte]

While getting bitch slapped by the basket when it clips through the window is kind of funny, I too would like collision detection + thud :p

[BMGZ06]

Resurrecting this thread from the grave because it is important that this finally be implemented. Also the bow wave physics need to be modeled as well. Not have any collision nor pressure wave off the nose to push the basket along with infinitely smooth air makes tanking easy once you figure out visual ques and know what to expect. The baskets and the boom also need to be able to be broken if you screw up and hit the basket too hard and create the sign wave.

 

IS this something that is even being worked on? I have not seen it mentioned.

[Minni]

ED has stated in the past that the boom and drogue physics are being worked on making AAR more realistic/difficult. Granted it's been at least a year with practically zero news about it so it may have been pushed beyond the back burner pending bigger stuff.

[Maverick_NL]

Would be nice to add this function.

if they add it it would be nice to have a function to turn on and off the collisions for the drogue. so people can choose what they want, and also can train with the non collision drogue.

That will be a nice possibility..

 

 

So when experienced in refueling you might to have to choose for collissions drogue on.

So unexperienced can choose dogue collisions off, something like this.

[HILOK]

if they add it it would be nice to have a function to turn on and off the collisions for the drogue.

So when experienced in refueling you might to have to choose for collissions drogue on.

So unexperienced can choose dogue collisions off, something like this.

 

yep! +1 on this

[Buzzles]

ED has stated in the past that the boom and drogue physics are being worked on making AAR more realistic/difficult. Granted it's been at least a year with practically zero news about it so it may have been pushed beyond the back burner pending bigger stuff.

 

 

I'm assuming it's because the sim engine's never had to support non rigid bones before, so it's all new stuff that needs to be fit in with existing stuff, rather than just extra features bolted on top.

[joey45]

As mentioned earlier, I'm holding off on an AAR video until the new S-3 and refueling pod is ready, as well as the new hose and basket physics.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3430203&postcount=4

 

That was back in 2018

 

It would be great IF ED says something instead of the silence.

[sora_061]

Yes, thanks for ressurecting the thread. Always wondered while refueling if there was a collision model. Would love ED to break silence on that.

 

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[Tom Kazansky]

Yes, thanks for ressurecting the thread. Always wondered while refueling if there was a collision model. Would love ED to break silence on that.

 

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+1

[Harker]

+1

[Gunslinger22]

+1 Still waiting on that video from Wags hahaha.

[Meyomyx]

Run of the mill collisions with the basket/hose .... I can cope with BUT what would be a partial win would be to introduce a time delay before the tanker pays out the hoses when refuelling is complete. At the moment, the first indication that you've taken all the gas you can is a face full of basket. Give us a chance to disconnect and get clear before paying out the hoses will ya?! :)