Why Christen Eagle II?

[Wright_GR1]

One more thing to mention...

 

A lot of the hate seems to spew from those claiming the Mig-21 is broken... I don't have the mig-21 so can't comment on it's "completedness", but up until today I've never seen so many posts complaining about it, which makes me wonder if it's really broken or if the haters are grasping at straws because that's all they've got left.

 

Honestly if you don’t have it and can’t be bothered to read this section of the forum do not comment.

 

Things have been broken for ages, im fact some things have never worked properly. If you will read you will see that people have given up on asking for it to be fixed, after so long of banging the door you give up. Then they announce this and its wounding “its like hi guys we are atill here and do not care about the MiG-21”. Rightly so pichforks get sharpened.

 

This is a mockery of your fanbase.

Comparing us to crickets.

 

 

You won't be missed M3.

 

Where was this bud? Been away for a while and missed this crickets thing

[Anatoli-Kagari9]

My Christmas in as far as Flight Simulation goes is here !!!! Christen Eagle plus the announced Yak-52 !

 

What else could I ask for ?

[Johnny Dioxin]

I don't get why people feel that they need to complain about a dev's choice in what aircraft that they develop. Like if you don't like it don't buy it. The sense of entitlement in this community knows no bounds. We're a small enough community to begin with it's better to be supportive verbally or financially of a teams endeavors than engage in toxic laced rants that serve no one, let alone our community.

 

Well said, that man! :thumbup:

[ESAc_matador]

Hype?... what are you? A 3 years old, waiting for Santa? I find awesome that DCS goes into civil aviation, more users, more money, more maps, improved software, improved ATC, etc, etc etc.

 

I envy the Ivao community for flying FSX, i wish, we have such dedication in the public servers!

[Haukka81]

Maybe they finally should take that combat part off from digitalcombatsimulator.

 

Sorry, can support this plane with money.

 

 

 

 

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[fostiras]

Hype?... what are you? A 3 years old, waiting for Santa? I find awesome that DCS goes into civil aviation, more users, more money, more maps, improved software, improved ATC, etc, etc etc.

 

I envy the Ivao community for flying FSX, i wish, we have such dedication in the public servers!

 

Who said I was even hyped about their posts. I never get excited whenever somebody teases a new product. But their posts made people think something big was coming, like an old classic fighter. Instead, Ed handled it well when they announced the release of the yak52.

[johnv2pt0]

Just throwing it out there to M3 as a datapoint:

 

I'm not interested in this but I also don't see why people are bashing you so much. The one exception is the teasers and hype train and such. You have to know that the community at large doesn't overwhelmingly love the idea of more trainers in the sim, so choosing to hype the release of the first completely non-combat related plane in DCS was...an odd choice IMO.

 

Your marketing is your business and I wish you the best of luck but personally I didn't really appreciate the manufactured buildup. That said I hope you're not taking all the animosity too seriously because I'm amazed at how horrible some people are being to you guys.

 

Clear skies ~

[Ciribob]

This is a mockery of your fanbase.

Comparing us to crickets.

 

 

You won't be missed M3.

That's just not true.... !

 

From their YouTube video

 

"Our team were so silent crickets could be heard"

 

They're trying to joke they themselves have been quiet and are no longer.

 

Making fun of themselves, not the community :)

 

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[rogonaut]

everybody thats dissapointed or even upset:

 

get a life! :D

 

also all the hints and everything, pretty funny if u ask me. i also was hoping for something different tho...

Edited December 9, 2017 by rogonaut

[BadHabit]

Yeah, I guess some ppl in here deserved the trolling.. :D

[Raz_Specter]

I wont be buying it, but wish you the best :)

[Coxy_99]

everybody thats dissapointed or even upset:

 

get a life! :D

 

also all the hints and everything, pretty funny if u ask me. i also was hoping for something different tho...

 

Its disappointing because it clearly says in the forum header

 

Digital Combat Simulator (DCS)

 

Why dont ED look at something called

 

Digital Civilian Simulator with a full open open world map then i get the point :thumbup:

 

On the other note people have put money into the Mig-21 which should take priority instead of a backburner, Which will get peoples backs up anyway.

Edited December 9, 2017 by Coxy_99

[Anatoli-Kagari9]

Just an additional thought regarding this announcement, as well as the recent ED / Belsimtek announcement of the upcoming Yak-52...

 

For those of you claiming that those of us who want to experience the closest to real feel of this kind of aircraft can get it from presently available Civil Flightsims, please point me to which one(s) you're referring to ?

 

I've been using flight simulators since 1987, and never really liked anything about Air Combat, of any sort, but ended up using DCS because it's the closest I can get to the feel of flying high performance aircraft. While I owned some jets, my hangar is presently composed only of ww2 airbirds and the uh-1h - again because nothing can be compared to DCS when it comes to rotary wing, unless we leave the game spectrum and transit into products like ELITE, FRASCA,...

 

So, having these sort of aircraft available in DCS is great for me, and I believe, great for the whole DCS community because we can bring more users, which turns into income for developers, which will eventually result in further development that I am sure will only contribute to make DCS even a better Flight Simulation platform.

[MrDieing]

Im going to keep my opinion short, not that it really matters obviously.

Would I like certain civ aircraft in DCS? Sure, why not.

Would I want a aerobatics biplane? No, most likely not.

Will I end up buying this if they nail the module in a sale? Probably.

Do I want to? No, as stated before, I do not want to stimulate this kind of aircraft, even though I am quite open to other civ aircraft.

 

Amen.

[Raz_Specter]

Its disappointing because it clearly says in the forum header

 

Digital Combat Simulator (DCS)

 

Why dont ED look at something called

 

Digital Civilian Simulator with a full open open world map then i get the point :thumbup:

 

On the other note people have put money into the Mig-21 which should take priority instead of a backburner, Which will get peoples backs up anyway.

 

 

I personally agree, this is a Digital Combat Flight Simulator, if i wanted to fly Civilian stuff I would have bought FSX, P3D or one of the other titles.

 

In my personal opinion, trainers are a complete waste of space, yeah they are good to jump in and have a mess about, but that's it. I bought the L39, flown it a few times with dual seat but that is it.

 

There are quite a few air-frames in DCS that are still not finished, they should be finished off before moving to another project.

 

Cheers Specter

[Silvern]

Its disappointing because it clearly says in the forum header

 

Digital Combat Simulator (DCS)

 

Why dont ED look at something called

 

Digital Civilian Simulator with a full open open world map then i get the point :thumbup:

 

How ED can let this slide, is beyond me. This affects the whole "Digital Combat Simulator" brand.

[Coxy_99]

So, having these sort of aircraft available in DCS is great for me, and I believe, great for the whole DCS community because we can bring more users, which turns into income for developers, which will eventually result in further development that I am sure will only contribute to make DCS even a better Flight Simulation platform.

 

Valid point in respect.

 

I still stand with an open world as FSX P3D etc, As ED only have map areas.

[Coxy_99]

How ED can let this slide, is beyond me. This affects the whole "Digital Combat Simulator" brand.

 

Jcomm has hit it on the head, But ED would need to go in an open world platform, Otherwise i couldnt see people leaving FSX P3D as they dominate that market of simulation, However back to Jcomms point getting the developers to get that would be huge?

 

And a great idea if ED could nail it. I bet it would cost them thousands tho.

[BIGNEWY]

Guys

 

topic here is Christen Eagle II

 

stick to it please

[Fanatic]

I’d be up for some redbull type competitions. Be a laugh and something different from blowing stuff up.

 

 

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[Mr_sukebe]

My thoughts:

- I personally spend a lot of time just learning to fly in DCS, whether that's my Harrier, Spit, Huey or any of the other aircraft I fly

- ANY module that helps attract new pilot is IMO a good thing, as it helps fund the core game technology

- Quite why anyone who isn't interested feels the need to voice negative thoughts does make me wonder. Personally I don't intend to buy an F14. Just not what I'm interested in. Didn't stop me buying many of the other modules and certainly doesn't motivate me to decry it

- I think I'll probably buy this, looks rather cool and I quite fancy giving it a try

 

Come on guys, just be nice.

You're not obliged to buy it, so just assume the some will be happy and leave it at that.

[Alpenwolf]

Guys

 

topic here is Christen Eagle II

 

stick to it please

Well, that's kinda a smack in the face to me of an announcement. But I don't have to like all modules any 3rd party contributes to the DCS arena. Nor any other DCS customer. And surely you're not expecting that either. You'll have your reasons for sure. Most DCS customers (or any customers) desire what could possibly make their virtual pilot life more exciting not taking into account that developers rely on some certain resources while following a consistent plan. I know for sure I'll never fly civillian aircrafts but good luck nonetheless. The smack in the face is only due to the fact that you guys have brought in the MiG-21 a module with such incredible fidelity and a great choise of an aircraft that's raised the bar so high I was expecting something at least just as incredible. I think many had the same expectations more or less which explains the various reactions here in many replies.

[Pikey]

I don't get why the reddit and forum response in general doesn't understand what's going on. How does the content of the video pass over so many heads? The MM3 statement said they were intending to release something quickly to provide a revenue stream so they could continue to function. It's all there in multicolour folks. Migs are grounded. Buy the Eagle II to support it. I get it, and I also see where the module is going too. Whilst DCS can get pretty messed up, release on release with things breaking, the one aspect I've seen people do is just get up there and fly around. Folks might try to deny it, but the amount of calls I have heard over the years for having a "fun fly evening", or aerobatics, or getting in and not actually shooting anything is a lot. Especially when DCS wants to misbehave.

 

A bubble canopy, VR friendly, aerobatics wasp is a great thing for DCS because if your SA-6 wont fire for a year or your combat frames are in single figures because of X bug with Y radar, you can still go online in DCS and actually enjoy flying. It's a good counter and it will deliver exactly what it says on the tin, which will be a first for DCS, for sure.

 

Sadly, some people still think Mig-25's drop out of nowhere. Even after watching other groups struggle with module developments.

 

Well played MM3, it's not going to appeal to everyone, but at least you have realistic approaches and stick to a gameplan, which will get you through more than promises of Eurofighters and Foxbats. I'll support it once DCS delivers a half decent 2.5 in release, if not for just a VR messaround tool with light requirements.

[Vatikus]

For those of you claiming that those of us who want to experience the closest to real feel of this kind of aircraft can get it from presently available Civil Flightsims, please point me to which one(s) you're referring to ?

 

I've been using flight simulators since 1987, and never really liked anything about Air Combat, of any sort, but ended up using DCS because it's the closest I can get to the feel of flying high performance aircraft. While I owned some jets, my hangar is presently composed only of ww2 airbirds and the uh-1h - again because nothing can be compared to DCS when it comes to rotary wing, unless we leave the game spectrum and transit into products like ELITE, FRASCA,...

 

So, having these sort of aircraft available in DCS is great for me, and I believe, great for the whole DCS community because we can bring more users, which turns into income for developers, which will eventually result in further development that I am sure will only contribute to make DCS even a better Flight Simulation platform.

 

The funny thing is, DCS by itself does not mean that FM is great... it is up to developer's competence. Remember Hawk? So getting all wet because of an aerobatic plane in the DCS is naive. M3 cannot even finish Mig21 FM, yet you are so sure this will be the best ever aerobatic plane? I hope you are right ;)

[Silvern]

Migs are grounded. Buy the Eagle II to support it.

 

No, I bought MiG-21 to enjoy MiG-21. I do not need to buy another plane to enjoy my "old" plane without bugs, THREE YEARS AFTER RELEASE. :mad: