jojo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hi guys, should 2.5 looks like that? compared to Wags videos it looks like there is something wrong with the whole lighting For the record, I had the same issue yesterday, but I had little time to find a solution. I will give another try tonight. My hardware shouldn't be an issue: I7 7700K, GTX 1080TI 11Go, RAM: 32Go Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Also what is cockpit global illumination? Check my post and screenshot here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3289754&postcount=54 It's from ver. 2.1, but you get the idea. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 31, 2018 ED Team Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) For the record, I had the same issue yesterday, but I had little time to find a solution. I will give another try tonight. My hardware shouldn't be an issue: I7 7700K, GTX 1080TI 11Go, RAM: 32Go Check mission settings as well, as in weather and time of day (and year), it can make a big difference as well when you are comparing to Wags shots. Edited January 31, 2018 by NineLine Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoBlue Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I would also like to have Deferred Shading Off, but it's not working now:(. i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawnDart Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Have you tried removing the Saved Games\DCS\Config\options.lua file and set up your graphics settings from scratch? There are differences between 1.5.8 and 2.5.0, and my install looked off until I followed this advice and now it’s stunningly gorgeous! This is per ED’s suggestion to get lightning to appear correct again in OpenBeta. [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf8312 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hey ED, why not make deferred shading mandatory? The game is more or less broken with it off. Also what is cockpit global illumination? Because people with lower end rigs, or those who play VR would basically be unable to play. To be honest the trees look a bit too light but otherwise it looks great to me, certainly not broken! Of course I never fly at 12 o’clock! ------------ 3080Ti, i5- 13600k 32GB VIVE index, VKB peddals, HOTAS VPC MONGOOSE, WARTHOG throttle, BKicker, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just restarted DCS I now I'm getting the way too bright trees (regardless of time of day) as well. Played with all settings, deleted the options file, no change. Have you reduced the gamma? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Not possible to change with deferred shading off. Then turn it on? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard1393 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Then turn it on? He obviously does not want to do that to save FPS. bbrz: Try starting from a different airfield at different time of day as suggested by Sith. This is not a "solution" but more like a workaround to see if you can get enjoyable results somehow, and to make clear it is not a bugged options.lua. Edited January 31, 2018 by chrisofsweden GPU: PALIT NVIDIA RTX 3080 10GB | CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K @ 4,9GHz | RAM: 64GB DDR4 3000MHz VR: HP Reverb G2 | HOTAS: TM Warthog Throttle and Stick OS: Windows 10 22H2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Good point. With all the on/off switching I only paid attention to the HDR setting and that's only available with deferred shading off. Switched it back on and now everything is fine again. @chrisofsweden: Nope, it's increadible smooth with any setting. Much more smooth than 1.5.8 :) Great to hear it solved your problem. Sometimes solutions are easier than one might think :D Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard1393 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 @chrisofsweden: Nope, it's increadible smooth with any setting. Much more smooth than 1.5.8 :) Oh ok then, my bad. :doh: Sounded like you were chasing FPS. GPU: PALIT NVIDIA RTX 3080 10GB | CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K @ 4,9GHz | RAM: 64GB DDR4 3000MHz VR: HP Reverb G2 | HOTAS: TM Warthog Throttle and Stick OS: Windows 10 22H2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid84 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I've also the same (too) bright trees with deferred shading off and HDR on. With deferred shading ON trees (and general global illumination) looks perfect, but i've experienced several DCS crash with deferred ON. I5-7600K@4,8Ghz - G Skill TridentZ 16Gb 3200 CL14 - Aorus GTX 1080TI - Samsung 950 PRO 512GB NVMe M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 - Lenovo 24'' 1440p - Hotas Warthog - TrackIR 5 DCS 2.5 OB - M2000C - Mig21Bis - A10C - FC3 - AJS37 Viggen - F5E - AV8B N/A - F/A18 C - L 39 Albatros - Bf109 - Spitfire - P51D - Black Shark 2 - Nevada - Persian Gulf - Normandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dax Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hmmm... So it sounds like I don't have to mess with a reinstall and so on and that the tree lighting is indeed supposed to be like that with DS off. That's a pitty as enabling DS is hardly an option in VR. Ok, let's hope they can fix that for the final release. Otherwise, with DS on, it for sure looks great! Intel Core i7 6700K@4.7GHz, Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark1, 16Gb Kingston DDR4 2800MHz, Asus Geforce GTX1080, SSD Sandisk Extreme Pro 250Gb, Seagate 2Tb, TM Hotas Warthog, Ch Pro Pedals, TrackIr 4, Oculus Rift CV1 & Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoen Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hmmm... So it sounds like I don't have to mess with a reinstall and so on and that the tree lighting is indeed supposed to be like that with DS off. That's a pitty as enabling DS is hardly an option in VR. Ok, let's hope they can fix that for the final release. Otherwise, with DS on, it for sure looks great! Just disable MSAA and use DS, works fine. Pity the MSAA wreaks havoc with framerate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Nephilim Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Well I had the same problem as pictured in the OP. I read through this thread and was mentioned to delete shader files in saved games I did that and it looks much better now. I run with DS OFF for NVidia 3d Vision does not like DS.. ASRock Z590 Phantom Gaming 4/AC / Intel i7 10700K @ 5.1Ghz / Noctua DHS-14 Heatsinkw/Fan / Samsung 970plus m.2 1TB / eVGA FTW3 2080Ti / RipJaws - 64GB RAM @3200 / SoundBlaster Z / Reverb G2 VR / ThrustMaster HOTAS Cougar & MFD's / Buttkicker Gamer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madcop Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Well I had the same problem as pictured in the OP. I read through this thread and was mentioned to delete shader files in saved games I did that and it looks much better now. I run with DS OFF for NVidia 3d Vision does not like DS.. Hi , Could please tell me where to look to find these shader files. In my Saved Games I have 2 folders. One is named DCS and the other is named DCS.openalpha 1-I did a research in my "C:\Users\Admin\Saved Games\DCS.openalpha" There is a folder named "metashaders" with a subfolder named "metafx" The main folder "Saved Games\DCS.openalpha\metashaders contain "METAFXCACHE" Files and the subfolder" metafx" contain "METAFX" Files. 2-This is also valid for my "C:\Users\Admin\Saved Games\DCS" The Folder C:\Users\Admin\Saved Games\DCS.openalpha has been modified on the 11-08-2017 while the Folder "C:\Users\Admin\Saved Games\DCS" has been modified on the 31.01-2018 (date of my 1.5.8OB update to 2.5OB). My question is ... Shall I have to delete 1-\Saved Games\DCS.openalpha\metashaders 2-\Saved Games\DCS\metashaders 3-In both cases, shall I have to delete both the subfolders "metafx" Thank You very much for any help. Madcop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finch Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 my turn Is supposed to be like this the Normandy spitfire cold start mission? DEFERRED SHADING on DEFERRED SHADING OFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebloggs Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 This is how mine looks and I've tried repair and some other stuff. I have to say though it still looks bad. Especially the trees been bright and looking like the OP pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephyrius Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Common map settings can lead to some very odd-looking weather effects, this one looks like the glowing sea from Fallout 4... To reproduce - "Winter - Heavy snow & clouds" weather preset, December, 10am (default). So none of these settings are a weird combo of any kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 With deferred shading on, the terrain illumination from anti-colision beacons is not working anymore. I attached some screenshots showing the missing effect on various aircraft with deferred shading on, while the last screenshot shows how it looks without deffered shading. As you can see in the last pic, the anti-colision beacon is actually illuminating the ground. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Aner here is another example of lighting that looks pretty odd (deffered shading on). Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decibel dB Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Have you tried removing the Saved Games\DCS\Config\options.lua file and set up your graphics settings from scratch? There are differences between 1.5.8 and 2.5.0, and my install looked off until I followed this advice and now it’s stunningly gorgeous! This is per ED’s suggestion to get lightning to appear correct again in OpenBeta. Can you guide me into where was that sugestion? So I can see into what exactly needd to be done? Also what will happen if i delete them after the update to 2.5, will it recreate new one or I need a freash re install? Thx Edit Edited January 31, 2018 by Decibel dB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Have you tried removing the Saved Games\DCS\Config\options.lua file and set up your graphics settings from scratch? There are differences between 1.5.8 and 2.5.0, and my install looked off until I followed this advice and now it’s stunningly gorgeous! This is per ED’s suggestion to get lightning to appear correct again in OpenBeta. This solved the issue for me (same colors as screen in the first page) :thumbup: Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dax Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just deleted shaders and config file. Still have those ugly light green trees with DS off. But... gained significant fps. I can now fly in VR with DS on and seem to maintain 45fps everywhere and 90fps at high alt. So, still needs further testing, but it seems that DS is the way to go. Will now try to see if it is possible to add a little msaa. Intel Core i7 6700K@4.7GHz, Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark1, 16Gb Kingston DDR4 2800MHz, Asus Geforce GTX1080, SSD Sandisk Extreme Pro 250Gb, Seagate 2Tb, TM Hotas Warthog, Ch Pro Pedals, TrackIr 4, Oculus Rift CV1 & Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delareon Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Is the Folder .../Saved Games/DCS.openbeta/metashaders the correct one to delete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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