Katmandu Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Su-27 with R77 will finally become official. MiG-29S, I still love you:) https://www.facebook.com/pg/dekaironworksims/posts/?ref=page_internal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlankerMan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 :wub::wub::wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noface Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I think its allways better to invest time on clicable... FACTA NON VERBA EX MERO MOTU Those two I will never forget! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drona Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just don't expect AIM-120C performance. The R-77 is almost equal or even less than the AIM-120B, but its always nice to have a true active, fire and forget missile! Going to be awesome! Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Might Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Can these be fired in TWS? Big advantage of F15 is not spooking adversary before pitbull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drona Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I don't think we'll get a true TWS like F-15.. It maybe something like the MiG-29S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarksydeRob Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just don't expect AIM-120C performance. The R-77 is almost equal or even less than the AIM-120B, but its always nice to have a true active, fire and forget missile! Going to be awesome! Can't wait. The 77 has less range than the 120B however I would take the 77 over the 120B as the closer you get the better then 77 becomes compared to the 120B. The 77 turns really well for its size due to the grated fins. It does have more drag in turns due to those fins but its what makes it manuver well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dun_Aenghus Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 That's great news and adding it into FC3 is a no brainer. Is the J-11A equipped purely with Russian weaponry or does it also carry indigenous missiles like the PL12? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 will it be flyable for only china side? FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Su-27 with R77 will finally become official. MiG-29S, I still love you:) https://www.facebook.com/pg/dekaironworksims/posts/?ref=page_internal See? ;) JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJQCN101 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) Dino Might said: Can these be fired in TWS? Big advantage of F15 is not spooking adversary before pitbull. It's kind of a hacked capability to be used with N001 radar, so no. Edited January 8, 2021 by LJQCN101 EFM / FCS developer, Deka Ironwork Simulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I didnt expect TWS or a time till active/impact timer but no DLZ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katmandu Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 See? ;) ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimango Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 It's gonna be nice to exchange actives in the face with F-15s pilots inside 8 clicks...your easy dodging days are over Eagles! :D 666GIAP_Chimanov - My Tomcat tribute video, type on youtube browser=> "DCS F-14 Tomcat Symphony" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunMcKill Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) The 77 has less range than the 120B however I would take the 77 over the 120B as the closer you get the better then 77 becomes compared to the 120B. The 77 turns really well for its size due to the grated fins. It does have more drag in turns due to those fins but its what makes it manuver well. No one knows the real specs of the R-77-1 (RVV-AE), the manufacturers give this figures: http://eng.ktrv.ru/production_eng/323/503/505/ Several publications online nerf the missile (like DCS does), and other analyst gives a better profile than the AIM-120C-1 (1996), no one knows for sure. And of course, the TWS solution will not work like the F-15, you will have to lock on the enemy aircraft, because no one knows how is IRL Edited April 13, 2018 by JunMcKill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 R-77-1 is not the RVV-AE. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunMcKill Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 R-77-1 is not the RVV-AE. You are right the RVV-AE is the original R-77, and the SD is the R-77-1, anyway some analysts give an estimated of Pk, range, etc, below the AIM-120C specs, and others say they are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zibell Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Ahhh, great news. This made my day, as per signature (maybe I was prophesying this years ago...) Finally, the R-77. [sIGPIC]hi[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Perhaps there should be a separate J11A subforum. There are some issues being reported with engine sounds and the like in different sections. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKULA_OPTIMUS Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 You can´t fly it even if you have the Su-27 and 33 modules? Only FC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uboats Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 You can´t fly it even if you have the Su-27 and 33 modules? Only FC? currently FC3, will be added to Su-27 dedicated module later [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flаnker Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) The 77 has less range than the 120B however I would take the 77 over the 120B as the closer you get the better then 77 becomes compared to the 120B. The 77 turns really well for its size due to the grated fins. It does have more drag in turns due to those fins but its what makes it manuver well. R-77 is an old missile (the development of the 90's ready). The R-77-1 is a new missile (it began to enter service in 2015). According to some data, the launch range is 2-3 times greater than that of the old R-77. Su-35 and R-77-1 Edited April 26, 2018 by Flаnker Мои авиафото Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 And of course, the TWS solution will not work like the F-15, you will have to lock on the enemy aircraft, because no one knows how is IRL Oh there are, but some just think it to be in the way how it was thought to be like 40 years ago.... There are old test pilots who got privileged access in USSR for totally new Su-27S and Mig-29 to offer them for sales. As well there are old pilots flying those aircrafts and maintaining those. And they might tell you some insights that are not in the manuals publically available, not on internet and you don't much otherwise get. But if you would want to get them for public record, everyone will be silent, until maybe in their deathbeds. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DronneR Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) R-77-1 (RVV-SD) is an improved version of R-77 (RVV-AE). It has improved seeker, guidance and rudder sections, and it is also 110mm longer and 15kg heavier than R-77, so it has longer range. Official sources claim it has a 110km max range, wich is just slightly more than AIM-120C5 and less than AIM-120 C7. Edited April 26, 2018 by DronneR [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) The 77 performance kind of disappointment in DCS. I got to pretty close and fast to get a kill. It almost WVR missile than BVR. Maybe I was doing it wrong. And I agree with opinion that in Its current performance 77 doesn't make Flanker overpowered. Edited April 27, 2018 by Oceandar Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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