Afterburner Detent for F-5E Request

[Azazel]

Not sure if this should go in a wish list or not but I just discovered the afterburner detent for the Hornet. Looks like the F-5E has the same (fingerlifts) but there is no option (check box) in the options menu to enable them. It would be a nice feature to add to the F-5E to keep from inadvertently going into afterburner.

Edited June 17, 2018 by Azazel

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Probably not going to happen, boss. To my best knowledge, the F-5E fingerlifts are merely to pick between the idle and off positions.

[Azazel]

Good to know. Thanks.

[lemoen]

The F5 has a toggle switch that will stop it from going into AB. It is in the controls somewhere and has a really forgettable name so I can't tell you what it is right now (Throttle limit or something). The way it works is:

 

The default setting is such that the F5 will go into AB, if you press the button then it will only go to MIL, press button again and you can get into AB again.

[Dudikoff]

The ED should add better support to easily define the afterburner switch point on the throttle axis (per module I guess), rather than to play with the axis curvature until you hit the sweet spot for your controller. Falcon 4.0 had it.

[nessuno0505]

The F5 has a toggle switch that will stop it from going into AB. It is in the controls somewhere and has a really forgettable name so I can't tell you what it is right now (Throttle limit or something). The way it works is:

 

The default setting is such that the F5 will go into AB, if you press the button then it will only go to MIL, press button again and you can get into AB again.

 

I agree, and I use it extensively. I can't remember what is its specific name under control settings, but if you read the manual it is clearly explained.

[probad]

called "throttle range"

 

it would be better if it was a momentary push type switch like on the fa-18 to create a one-way gate effect, since if the ultimate intent is to give artificial feedback to controllers that lack feedback, then having to mentally keep track of the switch state (or checking the fuel flow) is not much of a difference than not having the switch at all.

[cofcorpse]

Eventually, we will try to do this option similar between F-5 and F-18 as much, as we can. Also, we have plans to add visual reminder on the controls indicator (RCtrl+Enter)

[Azazel]

Outstanding! If the F-5E requires the finger lifts to be raised in order for the engines to get to afterburner then I'm very much in favor of this feature being implemented.

[JokerMan]

Eventually, we will try to do this option similar between F-5 and F-18 as much, as we can. Also, we have plans to add visual reminder on the controls indicator (RCtrl+Enter)

 

 

Thank you. Looking forward to this.

I wish to highlight how much I appreciate the dev popping into the thread and supporting their modules ... this is the way to go.

 

S!

[WildBillKelsoe]

there is already a mil- AB button map. Its called throttle range in controls.

[Eldur]

The ED should add better support to easily define the afterburner switch point on the throttle axis (per module I guess), rather than to play with the axis curvature until you hit the sweet spot for your controller. Falcon 4.0 had it.

 

Jane's sims had that in 1994 when calibrating the throttle axis when most people probably just had a Gravis Analog and not the Pro one which sported a throttle and 4 instead of just 2 buttons. They should even run quite well on your rig (love those specs)

 

But let's not talk about other products from the past here too much, just take an idea from them to make DCS even better

 

ED really has to do a little work in the axis section still. Just one more example: We can have a deadzone at the beginning and Sat X and Y. What's missing is a deadzone at the end of an axis. I for one had the idea to just scale the throttle with a deadzone at the end so that basically it would be at full mil when being firewalled and I'd just bind a button to increase thrust to get the rest out of it, or bind a second axis that just covers the range of the AB. It's not possible to cut off at the top end. But on the other hoof I can cut off something at the low end of the throttle range and I'm glad to be at least able to do so as the Hornet, the Harrier and the Viggen have dead ends in the idle zone before the throttle even starts moving.

Edited August 14, 2018 by Eldur

[DrGarantia]

Any news on this topic? Thinking about getting the F-5E and I absolutely love the F-18 feature that only let the engine go into AB if I held a button.

[gavilan_cl]

Hope to see this implemented soon. It is a pain in my brain try to figure out I which state my throttle range is.

[MTFDarkEagle]

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=182299

 

Meantime solution...

[gavilan_cl]

Thanks Dark Eagle. Gonna try this on my X52

[DrGarantia]

I am using a small macro on Joystick Gremlin on the pinkie button on my throttle, I use it for a few macros so another one won't hurt. For those who want how to make it work:

 

On your button of choise create two basic macros. Both will be 3 actions:

- vJoy Button "x" - pressed

- Pause for 0.05s

- vJoy Button "x" - released

 

The first will have a joystick condition:

- activate if (the button you are using) is pressed

The second will have a action condition:

- activate when this (virtual) button is released

 

Just assign the vjoy "x" button you are using on the macro in game for " throttle range". You also need this button assigned to something else, because you need to press it once on every new plane since the game start with the full range enabled.

 

It will work exactly like the hornet after that :)

[Stratozombie]

In the real plane the fingerlifts are to allow movement from idle to off. To go from MIL to AB range you just push through a roller detent type gate. You can feel some resistance but nothing to see or do but push.

[Tomcatter87]

I recently fiddled around with the Warthog Throttle Detent, to make it a push-through. Together with the curves posted above by MTF DarkEagle, it works like a charm,

[speed-of-heat]

dear god, thank you for this thread! I was going quite mad!