DCS Resolution - Oculus Rift

[Toni Carrera]

Hi Fellow Pilots,

 

I am about to purchase a new Oculus Unit. I do have one question though for those of you who use it

 

Based on the fact I have a high(ish) spec PC, running Windows 10 and DCS 2.5 with all but Russian Aircraft, my love being the F/A-18C. What is the maximum, in theory, resolution I can run the headset at. I despise low quality graphics so just wanted to ensure I am not going to be looking at a terrible picture. I understand system performance and tweaking etc, but the theoretical maximum is what I am looking for.

 

Thank you

 

Ice Rhino

aka Toni Carrera

[uri_ba]

In theory you can push the rift up to PD1.5 on a single 1080. I assume that SLI is not a perfect scale, but should allow you to bump up to PD1.7 I won't go above due to shrinking visibility ranges.

 

other then that, you should be fine.

[dburne]

The Oculus Rift has a fixed resolution of 1080x1200 per eye. As does the original Vive. You can not change that.

Currently only the Vive Pro and some WMR devices like Samsung Odyssey has a little better resolution.

 

 

The F/A 18-C cockpit is gorgeous in VR. However objects at a distance along with landscape can look pretty rough. For most the immersion is so good the clarity of the image is not that big a deal. As time marches on a second generation devices eventually get here it will only improve.

 

I have been gaming with my Rift since Jan 2017 and even with the drawbacks I could never go back to gaming on my monitor again. It is just no longer the same.

 

Edit: As uri-ba mentioned increasing Pixel Density helps a little, mostly in the cockpit displays.

[BigDuke6ixx]

In theory you can push the rift up to PD1.5 on a single 1080. I assume that SLI is not a perfect scale, but should allow you to bump up to PD1.7 I won't go above due to shrinking visibility ranges.

 

other then that, you should be fine.

 

SLI doesn't work in VR.

[Reflected]

I'm also about to purchase a Rift, and this is my main concern too. I only have a 1070 though, but I'm coming from 1080p, not 4k, so I hope it won't be THAT much worse.

[dburne]

I'm also about to purchase a Rift, and this is my main concern too. I only have a 1070 though, but I'm coming from 1080p, not 4k, so I hope it won't be THAT much worse.

 

For the vast majority the immersion is so engrossing the resolution especially at distances is not really a big factor. There are a few that are very graphics quality oriented that can't get beyond that. But from what I have seen on various forums it is a very few folks.

 

It is a whole different world. Rather than looking at an image on a monitor, you are literally put into that world. That is the big difference for me.

When I first got my Rift and found myself sitting in the Spitfire cockpit with that big propeller spinning in front of me and looking out the side and down at the ground, I was completely and totally absorbed into it. And have been to this day.

[BigDuke6ixx]

For the vast majority the immersion is so engrossing the resolution especially at distances is not really a big factor. There are a few that are very graphics quality oriented that can't get beyond that. But from what I have seen on various forums it is a very few folks.

 

It is a whole different world. Rather than looking at an image on a monitor, you are literally put into that world. That is the big difference for me.

When I first got my Rift and found myself sitting in the Spitfire cockpit with that big propeller spinning in front of me and looking out the side and down at the ground, I was completely and totally absorbed into it. And have been to this day.

 

Yep it never gets old.

[etherbattx]

i run a rift with a 1070. it works fine. you just need to reduce your Ultra Mega settings to something reasonable

[LithiumR]

For the vast majority the immersion is so engrossing the resolution especially at distances is not really a big factor. There are a few that are very graphics quality oriented that can't get beyond that. But from what I have seen on various forums it is a very few folks.

 

It is a whole different world. Rather than looking at an image on a monitor, you are literally put into that world. That is the big difference for me.

When I first got my Rift and found myself sitting in the Spitfire cockpit with that big propeller spinning in front of me and looking out the side and down at the ground, I was completely and totally absorbed into it. And have been to this day.

 

+1 Couldn't have said it better

[Phantom88]

Hi Fellow Pilots,

 

I am about to purchase a new Oculus Unit. I do have one question though for those of you who use it

 

Based on the fact I have a high(ish) spec PC, running Windows 10 and DCS 2.5 with all but Russian Aircraft, my love being the F/A-18C. What is the maximum, in theory, resolution I can run the headset at. I despise low quality graphics so just wanted to ensure I am not going to be looking at a terrible picture. I understand system performance and tweaking etc, but the theoretical maximum is what I am looking for.

 

Thank you

 

Ice Rhino

aka Toni Carrera

 

You might want to wait a bit for 2nd Generation of VR Headsets to arrive[Pimax 8K Or Similar] they should be much better....or pick up a good used Gen 1 for lower cost when 2nd Gen comes out.

[dburne]

You might want to wait a bit for 2nd Generation of VR Headsets to arrive[Pimax 8K Or Similar] they should be much better....or pick up a good used Gen 1 for lower cost when 2nd Gen comes out.

 

If it were coming next month I would agree, but currently no signs of anything seriously coming out anytime in the very near future.

Lots of Rifting to be done in the meantime!

:thumbup:

[whitav8]

The reason that resolution is a problem for the current generation of VR is simply that to provide immersion, the field of view is doubled from what we typically use on our monitors. It is over 100° instead of just 50° . Therefore if you were to look at an HD monitor you would be seeing half of that resolution with a rift. The use of what’s called pixel density override or super sampling setting up to 1.5 off will improve the quality of the image because it’s rendered at hi-Rez and then down sampled. The Samsung odyssey has approximately 40 to 50% more pixels and is available for about $400 and some are saying that that works pretty good.Currently I have to lean in to read most of the EFIS displays in the cockpit. The old steam gauges are fine though.

[dopebogey]

The reason that resolution is a problem for the current generation of VR is simply that to provide immersion, the field of view is doubled from what we typically use on our monitors. It is over 100° instead of just 50° . Therefore if you were to look at an HD monitor you would be seeing half of that resolution with a rift. The use of what’s called pixel density override or super sampling setting up to 1.5 off will improve the quality of the image because it’s rendered at hi-Rez and then down sampled. The Samsung odyssey has approximately 40 to 50% more pixels and is available for about $400 and some are saying that that works pretty good.Currently I have to lean in to read most of the EFIS displays in the cockpit. The old steam gauges are fine though.

 

I concur. I have both the rift and Odyssey, both are awesome. In fact, I assume most other HMDs are too compared to a regular monitor. I am sure you would be happy with any of them.

 

THE real question is when you get one. You will be asking yourself "why wasn't I doing this sooner?!!!":D

[ElementLT]

Right! I went VR about a year ago and I can not go back to 2D. It just isn't the same once you fly in VR a few hours. Oculus is not perfect with 4k res but for me it gets the job done and is the most fun for DCS. You also have features like zoom to help see items in the distance as well. I believe a 1080 would play nicely in VR. Get it and I would almost guarantee your mind will be blown.

 

THE real question is when you get one. You will be asking yourself "why wasn't I doing this sooner?!!!":D

[hansangb]

If it were coming next month I would agree, but currently no signs of anything seriously coming out anytime in the very near future.

Lots of Rifting to be done in the meantime!

:thumbup:

 

 

 

 

It looks like Pimax 8K is getting ready to ship in about a two months (best guestimate). So it's not *that* far down the road. This is based on the fact that that they are starting round two of the testing. And the first testing/fix cycle two about two months or so, IIRC.

 

 

 

It may not be an end all, be all, but it may cause a few Rift CV1s to show up on Ebay at a reduced price. We'll see.

 

 

Of course, the price of Pimax 8K is pretty hefty, 2.5 times more than CV1.

[Reflected]

 

 

Of course, the price of Pimax 8K is pretty hefty, 2.5 times more than CV1.

 

Not counting the new PC that most of us would need to buy to run it :music_whistling:

[hansangb]

Not counting the new PC that most of us would need to buy to run it :music_whistling:

 

 

There is that...but it's an unfortunate price to run the bleeding edge tech. Normally, I'm a "let's wait a bit" kind of a guy. But with Rift (DK1, DK2, CV1) I've changed my M.O. Where VR is concerned, I've decided I want the latest/greatest because it's that much better (VR in general). So I'm willing to pay the premium of an early adopter.

[dopebogey]

Oculus is not perfect with 4k res but for me it gets the job done and is the most fun for DCS. You also have features like zoom to help see items in the distance as well. I believe a 1080 would play nicely in VR. Get it and I would almost guarantee your mind will be blown.

 

Exactly! VR isn't perfect. It's got it's flaws. But VR immersion?It's like a fat kid on a see-saw. It just out weighs everything else.:hehe:

[Manilva]

And how do you deal when you have to use the keyboard? (I have Hotas Warthog)

It seems it is at the moment the worst part of changing to VR...

Am I wrong?

 

 

 

 

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[Firebird1955]

And how do you deal when you have to use the keyboard? (I have Hotas Warthog)

It seems it is at the moment the worst part of changing to VR...

Am I wrong?

 

 

 

Voice attack with Vaicom pro add on or similar to reduce keyboard workload. Especially to get away from the Fkey menu issues. It does work, at least for me.:pilotfly:

[John Hargreaves]

One of the biggest advantages of the Rift for me is in flying the helicopters. The extra sense of space and balance that you get really elevates the experience in VR.

Do your homework so your expectations are realistic (resolution and framerate will be the biggest casualties) and I doubt you will be disappointed.

[dopebogey]

And how do you deal when you have to use the keyboard? (I have Hotas Warthog)

It seems it is at the moment the worst part of changing to VR...

Am I wrong?

 

 

 

 

Enviado desde mi iPad utilizando Tapatalk

 

Voice attack with Vaicom pro add on or similar to reduce keyboard workload. Especially to get away from the Fkey menu issues. It does work, at least for me.:pilotfly:

 

Yep, I think a lot of VR users use Voice Attack with the Vaicom add-on. Most everything that I don't have on my hotas is set up on voice attack. And Voice Attack is perfect for comms!:thumbup:

[TWC_SLAG]

If the rift has only earphones, and you have been using an earphone/mic headset, what should you do for a mic?

[dburne]

If the rift has only earphones, and you have been using an earphone/mic headset, what should you do for a mic?

 

Rift has mic also. It works very well , at least for me.

[TWC_SLAG]

Thanks. Somehow, I thought it didn’t.