Nvidia RTX cards and DCS - ?

[remi]

:(

 

 

 

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3305787/components-graphics/nvidia-delays-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-launch.html

 

I guess all the people pre-ordering the latest and greatest are using up all the manufacturing capacity for the cards at the moment. I guess those people didn't listen to the naysayers who are regretting their 1080ti purchases!!! :megalol:

[Pilotasso]

the 2000 series are on transitional 12nm node, already peaked, and it will be short lived one. Next year gen with be 7nm it will feature double the cores and higher clocks. Ray tracing is a no go for first gen, so I cant regret to have smartly skiped this launch. ;)

Edited September 16, 2018 by Pilotasso

[BitMaster]

I`ll take a deep breath for this round and say NO.

 

 

First gen legs have always been pretty short and this will be no different I am afraid. And for what shoudl I buy RT if DCS doesnt support it.

 

 

When the Rift-2 arrives there will be 7nm and the 2080ti an old lame duck.

[dburne]

Are you using VR? I imagine 1080Ti will keep up just fine unless you're looking for 4K at MAXed out settings.

 

 

 

I *was* going to wait, but I got this little email from EVGA so I pulled the trigger. Who was I kidding...I knew I couldn't hold out. :D

 

 

Like dburne, I'm just looking for the best possible VR experience.

 

 

It's nice to read some reviews that shows 47% increase w/o DLSS.

 

:thumbup:

 

Yep that is how I snagged one as well, got that email and happened to be at my desk at the time.

[Sierra99]

Ray tracing is a no go for first gen, so I cant regret to have smartly skiped this launch. ;)

 

Ray tracing is a no go? What are ya basing this on?

[hansangb]

Ray tracing is a no go? What are ya basing this on?

 

 

In general, new tech may or may not get adopted quickly. DCS won't use proprietary technology anyway. But I believe I read that vulkan supports ray tracing. But I may buy BatteField5 just to see what RTX looks like in a game.

[Pilotasso]

Ray tracing is GPU intensive, and wont run well above 1080p. With these graphics cards costing around 1000$ and up, I dont see the point of having it and then run at that resolution when using ray tracing as the purpose of these cards is to run 4K otherwise.

[etherbattx]

Nvidia RTX cards and DCS - ?

 

But I believe I read that vulkan supports ray tracing.

 

does it require special coding support at the application level (in dcs), or will it “just work” ?

[remi]

Ray tracing is GPU intensive, and wont run well above 1080p. With these graphics cards costing around 1000$ and up, I dont see the point of having it and then run at that resolution when using ray tracing as the purpose of these cards is to run 4K otherwise.

 

And you're basing this off... Rumor and unoptimized drivers?

 

 

If these cards were garbage, Nvidia wouldn't be pricing it this high.

 

Even without raytracing, a 50% improvement over 1080ti rumored is nothing to sneeze at.

[remi]

does it require special coding support at the application level (in dcs), or will it “just work” ?

 

It looks like it would be fairly easy to get both dlss and raytracing Incorporated, though dlss is proprietary and has huge performance improvement compared with traditional graphics output.

[hansangb]

does it require special coding support at the application level (in dcs), or will it “just work” ?

 

 

Since an SDK is needed for Open Source Ray Tracing and the devs have to implement it, it won't just work. But at least ED can't say "it's proprietary so we won't support it"

 

 

 

From what I'm reading, there will be a game coming out "soon" that will support it. So we'll see.

[ctguy1955]

This is such an exciting time as I have been using SLI 680 4 gigs now for the

past 5 years and I purchased a Evga 1080Ti FTW3 DT and am using three monitors

in 5860 x 1080 mode for DCS. I guess DCS being Direct X 11 is really slowing down

many systems but I felt it is the best flight sim and I invested a lot of money

into building a nice system 5 years ago and now its time to upgrade My GPU.

 

As I have 87 more days to participate in the "Step Up" program, I just had to at least

purchase what I could when the mining overwrought MSDS prices came down.

I want to purchase a Vive soon to use with DCS and cant help but

wonder if I should not just sell My two 680 cards with waterblocks attached

and make up the difference in price of the 2080Ti ?????

[ctguy1955]

Well I jumped in with both feet.

I just pre-ordered EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra.

 

Doing a complete new system build later this year anyway, just figured this would be my first major component for it lol.

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Congrats dburne ! What are You running now?

Please let Us know how You like it when it arrives.

[hansangb]

This is such an exciting time as I have been using SLI 680 4 gigs now for the

past 5 years and I purchased a Evga 1080Ti FTW3 DT and am using three monitors

in 5860 x 1080 mode for DCS. I guess DCS being Direct X 11 is really slowing down

many systems but I felt it is the best flight sim and I invested a lot of money

into building a nice system 5 years ago and now its time to upgrade My GPU.

 

As I have 87 more days to participate in the "Step Up" program, I just had to at least

purchase what I could when the mining overwrought MSDS prices came down.

I want to purchase a Vive soon to use with DCS and cant help but

wonder if I should not just sell My two 680 cards with waterblocks attached

and make up the difference in price of the 2080Ti ?????

 

 

Yeah, I'm not sure why you would hold on to the 680's. The prices are going to drop the longer you wait. SLI is a failed exercise for DCS. So no big loss there, for DCS anyway. And with 87 days, you have plenty of time to wait for 1080Ti vs 2080Ti reviews.

 

 

Also, before you consider the Vive, I would strongly recommend Odyssey or similar. Unless you need Lighthouse full room tracking, the price of Vive makes no sense. Or you can see what the reviews for the Pimax 5K+ is like. But buying a Vive today doesn't make much sense to me.

[Pilotasso]

And you're basing this off... Rumor and unoptimized drivers?

 

 

If these cards were garbage, Nvidia wouldn't be pricing it this high.

 

Even without raytracing, a 50% improvement over 1080ti rumored is nothing to sneeze at.

 

I'm not saying the cards are garbage. Ray tracing is experimental tech and the silicon is way too expensive for this generation. We used to get the new cards for the same price as the old ones. They are 50% faster than a 1080ti but also 50% more expensive , potentially will be replaced by cheaper and much faster cards on 7nm next year, therefore value is very low. Hence my conclusion that you'd be better off skippingthe 20 series if you have a high end 10 series.

[dpj463]

This is such an exciting time as I have been using SLI 680 4 gigs now for the

past 5 years and I purchased a Evga 1080Ti FTW3 DT and am using three monitors

in 5860 x 1080 mode for DCS. I guess DCS being Direct X 11 is really slowing down

many systems but I felt it is the best flight sim and I invested a lot of money

into building a nice system 5 years ago and now its time to upgrade My GPU.

 

As I have 87 more days to participate in the "Step Up" program, I just had to at least

purchase what I could when the mining overwrought MSDS prices came down.

I want to purchase a Vive soon to use with DCS and cant help but

wonder if I should not just sell My two 680 cards with waterblocks attached

and make up the difference in price of the 2080Ti ?????

 

Hi,

I noticed you are running triple screens. I am trying to set this up for my rig but am not liking the left and right screens. The fov is warped and the wings are at a strange angle. Would you be able to give some advise on how to properly get this set up? thanks

[trigen]

Hi,

I noticed you are running triple screens. I am trying to set this up for my rig but am not liking the left and right screens. The fov is warped and the wings are at a strange angle. Would you be able to give some advise on how to properly get this set up? thanks

 

 

set 3 screens instead of 1 screen in graphic options and you wont have any distortion. If you have done that already? and its on a odd angle, angle your physical screen and play with the zoom. Guessing you are still at one screen in the options though

 

Now lets get back to the topic ;)

[Goa]

just my 2 cents: 2080x series will be a big failure which will teach nvidia a good lesson, at least I hope, paying 1400 euro for 30% increase in perofmance compared to a 1080TI is a theft!!!

 

 

the 1080ti cost 799 euro at Its launch, now the 2080ti costs 1500 euro..... that's a + 6000/700 euro ....

 

I really hope amd will fu***g wake up and produce 7nm navi gpu.......

[hansangb]

just my 2 cents: 2080x series will be a big failure which will teach nvidia a good lesson, at least I hope, paying 1400 euro for 30% increase in perofmance compared to a 1080TI is a theft!!!

 

 

the 1080ti cost 799 euro at Its launch, now the 2080ti costs 1500 euro..... that's a + 6000/700 euro ....

 

I really hope amd will fu***g wake up and produce 7nm navi gpu.......

 

 

 

 

100% market driven. And I think the performance increase is about 50% from what I'm reading. If there is no demand, they'll learn a lesson. But I HIGHLY doubt it. It's a very niche market, after all. I mean we are the people that think nothing of buying $400 throttle/joysticks, and $200 rudders, 3 monitors, VR, 4K monitors, latest CPUs etc. Not all, but quite a few of us do. But I'd love AMD to provide some real heat to NVidia. Consumers win every time when there is credible competition.

[dburne]

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Congrats dburne ! What are You running now?

Please let Us know how You like it when it arrives.

 

EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3, i7 4820k at 4.5 GHz, 16 gb DDR3 ram.

[Elliottc26]

DLSS please ED

 

All ed need to do is semd Nvidia some bits to run through their systems and we can get dlss for free, which would give a big performance boost on the 2080 over the 1080ti

 

So ED, please do this :thumbup:

[remi]

All ed need to do is semd Nvidia some bits to run through their systems and we can get dlss for free, which would give a big performance boost on the 2080 over the 1080ti

 

So ED, please do this :thumbup:

 

Agreed!!

[Katmandu]

DLSS sounds incredible indeed, with it enabled gtx2080 becomes 100% faster than gtx1080 with its comparable AA!

 

[Sn8ke_iis]

No joy on the DCS specific benchmarks from me guys, just cancelled my preorder, better luck next time Nvidia. The DX11 benches were terrible. Just buy a used 1080 Ti and wait for the next generation. Not sure what Nvidia was thinking with this one. Definitely not worth the upgrade. Used 1080 Ti's are under $400 right now.

 

Some of the Vulcan benchmarks on Doom looked promising, but we don't have any kind of time frame for the release of a Vulcan DCS build. If there's a worthwhile performance gain then I might pick up a Kingpin model.

 

If you are in the market for a $1200 card, the 2080 Ti is a better card than the Titan Xp, but other than that...

[Goa]

it was insasne since the begining ordering a piece of hadrware without real world benchamark...

 

this generation will be a flop, performance increase is about 20-30% at 2k 1440p resolutuon and almost 0% gain performance in 4k......I've seen the benchamrks on youtube and the rtx2080ti is very disappoiting for double the price of a 1080ti,.....