5 and 6 Generaton Fighter

[Xilon_x]

 

 

 

my dream.

[quarz]

 

 

 

my dream.

[Mars Exulte]

@quarz

Can't be done, Death Star specs are still way too classified.

 

@op

Can I get the one Jessica Biel flew? I'd even just settle for Jessica Biel.

[Xilon_x]

This is not science fiction, you will insert in the DCS simulator at least the 2 big superpowers RUSSIA T-50 PAK FA and U.S.A. F.22A are sufficient to keep the DCS simulator up-to-date with 5-generation technology.

 

 

F.22 really does exist and it is not a project on paper and the T-50 pak ago really exists and it is not a project on paper .... so let's talk about currently existing and not science fiction planes. Here are the photos .

 

 

Edited September 8, 2018 by Xilon_x

[Northstar98]

I'm afraid you won't be getting any 5th or 5+ generation aircraft in DCS for a really, really long time. Their avionics and systems are all heavily classified and you won't be getting any data for a really long time. You certainly won't be getting access to RADARs, datalinks, stealth characteristics, electronic warfare, data on the capabilities of other sensors and systems.

 

Heck, only the F-22, F-35 and J-20 are actually operational, the latter 2 being introduced not so long ago, all 3 are classified to the hills and back so you're absolutely not getting any data on them, certainly not enough to make a full fidelity module, the best you will get is a FC3 aircraft that won't have access to the full capabilities of the aircraft and you'll get something that's 90%+ guesswork an that's being generous.

 

As for the rest of them, the Su-57 still hasn't been introduced with only a small number of prototypes built. The KFX-201 hasn't even had a single prototype built yet, and probably won' have one built for another coupe of years. Japan's Mitsubishi X-2 is only a technology demonstrator. In short no data and no hope of access to data.

 

We can just about get some 4th generation aircraft in the pipeline as foreseeable modules and many 4th generation aircraft can't be done due to them being classified.

 

Your best bets are 3rd and early 4th generation aircraft that are being/have been phased out. IIRC ED got in trouble for doing a 4th generation Su-27 so that should answer the Su-57's feasibility.

[WinterH]

Nah, we should get X-Wing and the Tie Fighter first.

[Home Fries]

Nah, we should get X-Wing and the Tie Fighter first.

 

Already announced! :smartass:

[Xilon_x]

 

 

Perhaps a 5-generation plane can be obtained even if it is a simple trainer or bomber.

 

 

YES YES IS HIM

 

The name is.....YAK 130 or also ALENIA AERMACCHI 346

 

 

 

 

[Lixma 06]

[Mars Exulte]

Wow, is that the new noodle delivery system? Very nice! I bet they'll even still be warm!

[Xilon_x]

thid IRAN FIGHTER IS A FAKE i look video is a REAL PLASTIC AIRPLANE

THIS IS VIDEO:

[Evoman]

If you want to fly 5th and 6th Gen fighter jets in DCS you are going to have to wait a really long time for them to be retired and declassifed for 7th gen jets. Or just go play other simpler simulators or combat games on consoles.

[SkateZilla]

None of those Aircraft will be Made as a Flyable anytime soon, nor the immediate future.

[Xilon_x]

 

 

 

i not rememember in the list of 5 & 6 generation fighters the future project of turkish air force TFX

[Northstar98]

Again anything that's above a generation 4 aircraft is a no no. They're classified, and you're not getting a whiff of what the accurate capabilities of their systems are, their RADARs, their stealth characteristics, their performance.

 

The F-35 has only just entered operational service, you're not getting anything on the Typhoon, and that's the most feasible module prospect. Until it goes out of service and is declassified it's a no. The other aircraft on that last image don't even have technology demonstrators (apart from the ATD-X) so getting data is an even larger hurdle because the production aircraft haven't been built yet.

 

I don't mean to sound rude, but you may as well ask for a full-fidelity Quinjet or I don't know an Orgoi or ADFX-01 or something.

 

Rule of thumb - if it's a 4th generation or above, was put in production after the mid-1980s and is still in service with the US, the UK, Russia, Japan or China it's probably a no with only a few exceptions.

 

If it only exists as a technology demonstrator or prototype it's also a no.

 

If a technology demonstrator or flyable prototype hasn't been built yet it's also absolutely a massive throbbing no.

[Evoman]

Another factor that would make aircraft like the type you described far more difficult for them to ever be completely declassifed is the fact that they are stealth. This adds another level of complexity and secrets compared to regular non-stealth aircraft.

 

A good example of this is the F-117 Nighthawk which was the first stealth fighter in service. It was retired in 2008 and most of its sensitive systems are still classified. And the latest news is that most of them will endup being destroyed.

 

You can read more about the it here: http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/16092/pictures-emerge-of-covered-f-117-being-transported-on-a-trailer-in-southern-nevada

[fl0w]

Putting into the light here since it is on the topic of future AI/module of 5th and 6th gen aircraft:

 

We do have F-22A and Su-57 (T-50/PAK FA) mods out already. The only big issue here, even getting this such said aircraft you want is classification. Regardless of the systems, performance ratios, FM and many other areas are to be questioned as when you are trying to implement something accurate into a digital combat simulation game.

[Xilon_x]

why the information on the f35 is made known to the public and on social networks?

 

they are classified aircraft

 

WHY?

 

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Edited September 9, 2018 by Xilon_x

[mvsgas]

why the information on the f35 is made known to the public and on social networks?

 

they are classified aircraft

 

WHY?

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Why do they show basic information without divulging classified information? Is that what you asking? They don't show the radar range, nor capabilities. They don't show the radar limitation or how to spoof it. It's a simulator, we have no information to verify nor contradicts how close it is to the real aircraft.

 

I guess the answer to you question is: There not showing anything out of the ordinary, they are just trying to sell a product.

Edited September 9, 2018 by mvsgas

[Xilon_x]

a new york this italian man pilots a real f22 simulator but but but not is possible this airplane is classificated why? why this man have this information?

[probad]

i dont think op would understand what classified means if it bit him in the face

[mvsgas]

a new york this italian man pilots a real f22 simulator but but but not is possible this airplane is classificated why? why this man have this information?

 

 

I have no idea what your talking about. Still just a simulator and no way of telling what information is withheld. They are just showing basic information, nothing classified.

[mvsgas]

i dont think op would understand what classified means if it bit him in the face

 

I agree. Something is lost on translation.

[Xilon_x]

classified means that the aircraft is officially and militarily active and can not divulge or spy or plagiarize its technical information.

[mvsgas]

classified means that the aircraft is officially and militarily active and can not divulge or spy or plagiarize its technical information.

 

Information that will help you defeat it or know its capabilities.