zhujiammy Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Will F14 be released before Christmas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Will F14 be released before Christmas? The billion dollar question "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Release before Christmas is the best case scenario for everyone, including Heatblur...but time is quickly running out. There is still hope for a Christmas miracle and I wish Heatblur the best of luck! i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayos Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 We will find out on the 19th I guess. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Will F14 be released before Christmas? Yes. The real question is before which. The Russian is 2 weeks™ later and they practically guarantee before Christmas 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleniskaya Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 First fly of F14 was 21th december no ? Maybe we can dream to have it in DCS at this time =) =) =) *Optimism* [sIGPIC]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/208281dombannire2Copie.png[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 If history is any indication, it won't happen this year. Cobra, and his group, has never hit a single target date. Not once. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Another release thread?:doh: i9 9900k @5.1GHz NZXT Kraken |Asus ROG Strix Z390 E-Gaming | Samsung NVMe m.2 970 Evo 1TB | LPX 64GB DDR4 3200MHz EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra | Reverb G1 | HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Flight Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 If I were HB I wouldn't release it before Christmas... don't want that post release stress if something goes wrong during a time when a lot of people want to take off. I bet we see it in January. 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydy Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 End of January... That’s my bet... (I hope I am wrong). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 If history is any indication, it won't happen this year. Cobra, and his group, has never hit a single target date. Not once. Overly harsh. December was what they hoped for but their official target was this winter, which includes some of next year. It’s people like you who really make me understand why devs decide not to communicate with the community as much as they could. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mule Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Overly harsh. December was what they hoped for but their official target was this winter, which includes some of next year. It’s people like you who really make me understand why devs decide not to communicate with the community as much as they could. I didn’t read it as “Harsh” it really is just a fact. Fighter Pilot Podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDieing Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 AFAIK a module has never been released unnannounced, always there has been a week / two week / four week heads up with an exact date. If they dont announce anything before next week this day, its probably not going to be here before Christmas. ''Greed is a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction.'' Erich Fromm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceFuel85 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 If history is any indication, it won't happen this year. Cobra, and his group, has never hit a single target date. Not once. They didn't announce any date. They said they hope this month, but promise this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 last 20 days for this year and not much stuff to proove that it is imminent. so it is very unlikely for this year FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cann0nF0dd3r Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Overly harsh. December was what they hoped for but their official target was this winter, which includes some of next year. It’s people like you who really make me understand why devs decide not to communicate with the community as much as they could. True statement! Gamers can be rather toxic to developers at times. TBH I'm surprised EAs are still a thing seeing as how hostile people get when things aren't up to the level they expect them to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayos Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 They didn't announce any date. They said they hope this month, but promise this winter. They also promised last Christmas :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 No getting away from EA, now modules are so complex. Developers just need to get better with their PR. In this regard while I don't have any big problem with the way Heatblur have gone about things, I think they could do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 It's mind boggling how they were predicting a release last Christmas and here we are a year later and still no Tomcat. Why are they so hesitant to release it? Look at the Hornet and what state it was released in and what it's current state is. I feel another year gone by hurts Heatblur's reputation more than just finally releasing it in whatever state it's in. I am beginning to question Heatblur's ability to give us a quality representation of the F-14. I hope I am proven wrong. i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) It's mind boggling how they were predicting a release last Christmas and here we are a year later and still no Tomcat. Why are they so hesitant to release it? Look at the Hornet and what state it was released in and what it's current state is. I feel another year gone by hurts Heatblur's reputation more than just finally releasing it in whatever state it's in. I am beginning to question Heatblur's ability to give us a quality representation of the F-14. I hope I am proven wrong. You make a lot of assumptions, there may be reasons outside HBs control as to why they couldn't release the F-14, possibly like ED planning to release the F-18 shortly afterwards and not wanting to have competing products. We also know that the F-14 will be much more complete than the Hornet was upon release so that year may have been the difference between releasing it in true EA ( Like the Hornet, most of the stuff not working) and a much more polished version. The other option is that they were just optimistic with their estimates, they may have run into difficult bugs and issues which took them a long time to nail down and fix. These things do happen with big, complex, interconnected projects like this. None of this should make you doubt their ability to get it finished. Talking as somebody who's been involved in very similar projects, the really annoying thing about doing something like this is that you don't know how long it actually takes to do until AFTER you've completed it. So you can make predictions, deadlines and whatever else but sometimes it just takes longer than expected for 1000 different reasons. Edited December 7, 2018 by Deano87 Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 You make a lot of assumptions, there may be reasons outside HBs control as to why they couldn't release the F-14, possibly like ED planning to release the F-18 shortly afterwards and not wanting to have competing products. We also know that the F-14 will be much more complete than the Hornet was upon release so that year may have been the difference between releasing it in true EA ( Like the Hornet, most of the stuff not working) and a much more polished version. The other option is that they were just optimistic with their estimates, they may have run into difficult bugs and issues which took them a long time to nail down and fix. These things do happen with big, complex, interconnected projects like this. None of this should make you doubt their ability to get it finished. Talking as somebody who's been involved in very similar projects, the really annoying thing about doing something like this is that you don't know how long it actually takes to do until AFTER you've completed it. So you can make predictions, deadlines and whatever else but sometimes it just takes longer than expected for 1000 different reasons. Well said and thank you for giving me a different perspective. I believe that threads like this keep popping up though because communication could be better and much more clear...especially now that we have actually paid for the Tomcat. Tell us why there is a delay and/or what the actual hold up is to releasing it. I think the majority of us would be understanding and much more tolerant and supportive of delays if we knew what was actually going on. i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester986 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I'll buy the tomcat day one, but not before. How many people preordered because it made them feel like it would be here in a week versus people who really needed to save that 10 dollars? I trust heatblur but preorders are nothing but bad for the consumer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel_108 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Same here. I trust Heatblur 100% to deliver a fantastic product. Thus I will gladly pay 10$ more for it a few weeks after it has been released. I just want to see a few Youtubers try it out to see what EA limitations and bugs are present before I buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varis Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I believe that threads like this keep popping up though because communication could be better and much more clear...especially now that we have actually paid for the Tomcat. Tell us why there is a delay and/or what the actual hold up is to releasing it. I think the majority of us would be understanding and much more tolerant and supportive of delays if we knew what was actually going on. Wow that's a good point man! I already spent a gigaton of funds on the old modules so not looking to buy the 'cat anytime soon although I know people around me will be flying it and it's gonna be great fun for everyone involved. But I can understand a few people paying for it and now it taking way longer than they expected... there will be a few drops of sweat on somebody's forehead. I'm just amazed at how calm the community is keeping! :shocking: Probably something to do with HB's excellent reputation - there's the Viggen and so and funny how nobody is even asking why they spend effort on Viggen when there is the 'cat to finish :D There are many different approaches how to handle PR as I've explained in some other thread. HB's approach seems to be working to me. SA-342 Ka-50 Mi-8 AJS-37 F-18 M2000C AV-8B-N/A Mig-15bis CA --- How to learn DCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger22 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Hmm, all this is taking me back to this time last year. The feelings and expectations where very similar weren't they :music_whistling: Though I can more confidently say we are closer to release than we certainly were compared to last year it seems. Makes you think how truly far off they were 12 months ago when a release was promised. Quality like what HB offer really does take time it seems, can't wait for them to get the monkey off their back and a well earned break to ensue. Whether that's this year or not I don't know, but it will be glorious for both them and us the customers. "I'm just a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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