Cobra847 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 And I've added to the nitpicking...sorry for that Heatblur. The product is leaps and bounds above what we expected, we've just not allowed for any human or technical error whatsoever. we will all be there launch day enjoying it.....once we figure out how to turn it on. Don't get me wrong; we're totally fine with nitpicking actually :D That's how we get a better product out the door! That said, we're in that weird place right now where we literally have zero time to properly communicate away concerns with people, and that's a big issue because perceived issues can fester somewhat. :) That's why we try to show off only what is (mostly) polished. :) That was a lot of sentences that started with 'that'. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
Victory205 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 That said, keep up the amazing work! ;) Fly Pretty, anyone can Fly Safe.
Eldur Posted February 2, 2019 Author Posted February 2, 2019 That post with all that "thats" Just to throw in a nice example: You want to see what happens if you don't get the quality work that we're up to with the F-14B? Go look for a startup tutorial video that actually works for the AV-8B module. Good luck! Spoiler alert None of them covers the INS alignment procedure with entering your initial coordinates and MVAR - you'll be stuck with the lack of HUD functions, navigation etc. That won't happen here At least Chuck updated his guide... but that's kinda expectable Hoof note: Still like the Harrier module, no bash intended, but it's just such a nice example of what happens if you release things even with the basics unfinished. And the Tomcat is THAT (hey, there is that that again) module with probably the highest expectations to it ever as it virtually is the most iconic and well-known combat airplane that probably ever will have been built. Even the smallest issues probably will summon up folks with pitchforks pointed at HB...
will- Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 im confused by some of these complaints. I'm presuming HB made the ability to carry all of those bombs b/c the f14 has stations available, what people do w/ those load outs is completely up to the person when they open the menu in game. Or am i missing something? Intel i9-9900K 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080tiftw3, Windows 10, 1tb 970 M2, TM Warthog, 4k 144hz HDR g-sync.
Nexus-6 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 3 1/2 tons of bombs on board... Can still fight a MiG-29. :D Can't pretend fly as well as you can.
Bad Idea Hat Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 3 1/2 tons of bombs on board... Can still fight a MiG-29. :D Just because it can, doesn't mean it should. (Seriously, one mission at a time. I have a bone to pick with Hornet pilots who can't stick to one mission and carry a mixed loadout of a couple pylons of AMRAAMS and a couple pylons of bombs. If they can't do it, Tomcat pilots shouldn't be doing it either.)
Nexus-6 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Just because it can, doesn't mean it should. (Seriously, one mission at a time. I have a bone to pick with Hornet pilots who can't stick to one mission and carry a mixed loadout of a couple pylons of AMRAAMS and a couple pylons of bombs. If they can't do it, Tomcat pilots shouldn't be doing it either.) Definitely not my preferred configuration for stepping into the phone booth, but it's comforting to know that, on the off chance that I ever want to carry bombs, I won't be helpless. Can't pretend fly as well as you can.
freehand Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) If you don't enjoy the content - don't watch it. We can either be silent and get reamed for being silent, or share and get reamed for showing too much. For every oversaturated hardcore DCS fan - there are thousands of unaware casual flight simulation/ace combat/war thunder/et al. fans that have no clue about our F-14 coming out. Reaching that demographic is important to recoup 4 years of development costs. FYI: Every single CC we've pulled in has had access to our WiP manuals and direct access to almost every single developer to ask questions. They've also done multicrew/MP/RIO sessions multiple times and used the AWG-9. We're just asking them to not show it yet because every little error or issue gets nitpicked into oblivion if we do. What a very bizarre response. Edited February 2, 2019 by Cobra847
Nexus-6 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 What a very bizarre response.It's called "Damned if they do and damned if they don't." Can't pretend fly as well as you can.
Elefant1301 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) Whatever... For me the Tomcat was, is and always will be a pure A/A fighter originally designed for this purpose (the defender of the fleet). So, any bomb carried by a 14 is an heresy. :D Edited February 2, 2019 by Elefant1301 the defenser of the fleet...:-)
Donut Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Whatever... For me the Tomcat was, is and always will be a pure A/A fighter originally designed for this purpose (the defenser of the fleet). So, any bomb carried by a 14 is an heresy. :D +1! i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT"
OnlyforDCS Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Whatever... For me the Tomcat was, is and always will be a pure A/A fighter originally designed for this purpose (the defenser of the fleet). So, any bomb carried by a 14 is an heresy. :D I was of the same opinion until I saw these videos of what the Cat can do with CCIP bombs or just it's gun on a strafing run. It's unbelievably easy to use and very, very effective against ground targets. Once I get to grips with it I plan to fly it mostly online, but Im definitely gonna mix it up by doing both AA and AG, whatever is required to win the day :thumbup: Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals.
Naquaii Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 I was of the same opinion until I saw these videos of what the Cat can do with CCIP bombs or just it's gun on a strafing run. It's unbelievably easy to use and very, very effective against ground targets. Once I get to grips with it I plan to fly it mostly online, but Im definitely gonna mix it up by doing both AA and AG, whatever is required to win the day :thumbup: The Tomcat was actually a very capable and stable bombing platform according to multiple SME's also saying that it consistently won bombing contests within the air-wing as soon as the bombcat was a thing. That said, I agree that it's primarily a fleet defender but with a nightjob that it's very good at! :-)
HereThen Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Some people really do need to take a brake from their computers if they can't enjoy any content shown of the F14. If you are already sick and tired of it now, what will that be in a week after launch? Beste regards, Stefan, HereThen | I7 8700K 4.7 Ghz | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | 32Gb G.Skill DDR4 | Asus MAXIMUS X HERO | ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q | TrackIR5 | Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog | Thrustmaster TPR | Steelseries Apex PRO | Steelseries Aerox 3 | Steelseries Arctis WL Pro | MonsterTech table clamps |
Flamin_Squirrel Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Just because it can, doesn't mean it should. (Seriously, one mission at a time. I have a bone to pick with Hornet pilots who can't stick to one mission and carry a mixed loadout of a couple pylons of AMRAAMS and a couple pylons of bombs. If they can't do it, Tomcat pilots shouldn't be doing it either.) :huh: Hornet's can do that.
OnlyforDCS Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Some people really do need to take a brake from their computers if they can't enjoy any content shown of the F14. If you are already sick and tired of it now, what will that be in a week after launch? Yeah I really don't get how people complain about the stupidest things. Seriously. If you don't like it, don't watch it! I for one am absolutely "starved" of F14 content and can't wait for more! I mean Jabbers and Ralfi have mysteriously gone AWOL with F14 content for a week now, and Jabber's AIM54 testing series of videos stopped midway. If anything I wish more people would produce content while we wait but it appears that only these three have access to the F14 so far. Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals.
fl0w Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Don't get me wrong; we're totally fine with nitpicking actually :D That's how we get a better product out the door! That said, we're in that weird place right now where we literally have zero time to properly communicate away concerns with people, and that's a big issue because perceived issues can fester somewhat. :) That's why we try to show off only what is (mostly) polished. :) That was a lot of sentences that started with 'that'. I respect that. I would be the same way as most others about asking why some things were not shown and knowing that many CC's state the big "everything is still in development" line. Your party has worked very hard for so long to deliver a polished, golden product to the community that it almost feels wrong to critique and say otherwise. Great work, and please keep going!
GrizzlyBear83 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Whatever... For me the Tomcat was, is and always will be a pure A/A fighter originally designed for this purpose (the defender of the fleet). So, any bomb carried by a 14 is an heresy. :D The Tomcat likely did more as a strike fighter than a fighter.
CaptJodan Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Yeah I really don't get how people complain about the stupidest things. Seriously. If you don't like it, don't watch it! I for one am absolutely "starved" of F14 content and can't wait for more! I mean Jabbers and Ralfi have mysteriously gone AWOL with F14 content for a week now, and Jabber's AIM54 testing series of videos stopped midway. If anything I wish more people would produce content while we wait but it appears that only these three have access to the F14 so far. I have to agree. I've watched every Tomcat video put out and while not all of them are stellar masterpieces, I've enjoyed them all and want more, even if they show the same thing other people have done. I don't really care what they're showing as usually every video shows me something new, even if the thrust of the video is air-to-air for the 15th time. Also I enjoy seeing the attention to detail and modeling effort put into the plane in the different lighting conditions people choose to go with. There's still plenty to see in every new video. Complaining there is too many videos? Sick of the hype? Hate options in loadouts that you as the player can choose to use or not? That's the problem with Heatblur. They raise the bar so high, people really do sharpen their pitchforks for the silliest things, cause gotta complain about something. Hey Heatblur, my F-14 didn't make me want some butts! Refund!! :pilotfly:
Victory205 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 I have to agree. I've watched every Tomcat video put out and while not all of them are stellar masterpieces, I've enjoyed them all and want more, even if they show the same thing other people have done. I don't really care what they're showing as usually every video shows me something new, even if the thrust of the video is air-to-air for the 15th time. Also I enjoy seeing the attention to detail and modeling effort put into the plane in the different lighting conditions people choose to go with. There's still plenty to see in every new video. Complaining there is too many videos? Sick of the hype? Hate options in loadouts that you as the player can choose to use or not? That's the problem with Heatblur. They raise the bar so high, people really do sharpen their pitchforks for the silliest things, cause gotta complain about something. Hey Heatblur, my F-14 didn't make me want some butts! Refund!! :pilotfly: The community usually generates the hype, then complains about the hype they created. Fly Pretty, anyone can Fly Safe.
macidcrook Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 The f14 dropped more bombs than fired missles in combat. Its an important part of the airframe. The beauty of dcs is the player can play how ever they want. The scale of this module is ridiculous, the bar has been raised and it isnt even polished yet. DCS WISHLIST: F4U-4, A-4M, A-1H(AD-6), OV-10A
Bad Idea Hat Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 :huh: Hornet's can do that. Should be concentrating on a specific mission, and not trying to do everything at once. Let the Hornets loaded out for CAP/Escort/Sweep do the A2A, the Hornets with HARMs and CBUs do SEAD, and the bomb-carrying Hornets do the strike. Splitting the loadout shorts the specific mission. Multirole means you can do whatever role that's needed, but not all at once.
Blaze1 Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 The f14 dropped more bombs than fired missles in combat. Its an important part of the airframe. The beauty of dcs is the player can play how ever they want. The scale of this module is ridiculous, the bar has been raised and it isnt even polished yet. :thumbup:
Bloodhound57 Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 Wow. Someone gives fair criticism and gets roasted. 45 days until that bottle of polish is empty. Hope this module is everything it has been hyped up to be. ____________________________________________________ PC: ASROCK Z370 Gaming K6 | Intel i7 8700K | GeForce 2080TI | 32GB GeSkill 3200 RAM | GeForce 2080TI | 500GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 | 1TB Samsung 860 EVO M.2 ____________________________________________________ FLIGHT STUFF: Rift S | Warthog Base | Virpil Base | Hornet Grip | A-10 Grip | Cougar Grip | Virpil F-14 Grip | Cougar MFD's | A-10C UFC | Saitek Flight Panels | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals
westr Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 The f14 dropped more bombs than fired missles in combat. Its an important part of the airframe. The beauty of dcs is the player can play how ever they want. The scale of this module is ridiculous, the bar has been raised and it isnt even polished yet. Exactly that. If people want to fly it as a fighter fly it as a fighter. If people want to fly it as a bomber fly it as a bomber. When it’s released I shall do both but please people stop complaining. Please keep the videos coming. RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV
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