About the Data Link Wags's video

[borba_eagle]

Hello everyone!

 

I watched the new released video from Wags and have some doubts.

 

It'll display info from F-15, F-16, F-18 and A-10C right now in this first release?

And from the other side, A-10C in example, it'll be able to see info from F-18?

 

Thanks and sorry if I'm too early with the expectations!

[kaoqumba]

Do you mean information sharing? A10C will probably share ground target data from F/A18C

[SFJackBauer]

It'll display info from F-15, F-16, F-18 and A-10C right now in this first release?

 

Matt said in the comments section of the video that only AI F-15s will contribute data to the network. Since FC3 doesn't have datalink, human F-15 won't be able to contribute. I bet current F-16 AI will also be able.

 

A-10C has DL, so both AI and human aircraft will be able to share data.

 

F-18 yes. It will also display your own flight members as distinct symbols (letters inside circles).

 

And from the other side, A-10C in example, it'll be able to see info from F-18?

 

Apparently F-18 AI appears on A-10C currently, but there is no info on whether human F-18s will appear on A-10C display.

[wilbur81]

Does NCTR have an option to display on the radar screen as well (ala' f15c) or does it only work on the SA page?

[KingKenny04]

I would expect that anything with Link-16 or Link-4 modeled in-game will either be able to share information or will eventually have information sharing implemented in the future.

 

EDIT: Rather, I should say that I would expect anything with Link-16 or Link-4 will have all the same features as the real world. Link-4A doesn't actually work like Link-16.

Edited February 26, 2019 by KingKenny04

[Wags]

A-10C has DL, so both AI and human aircraft will be able to share data.

 

Apparently F-18 AI appears on A-10C currently, but there is no info on whether human F-18s will appear on A-10C display.

 

The A-10C uses SADLE and the Hornet uses MIDS. As such, they can only share their PPLI over an L16 gateway, no more.

[maths314]

I'm also curious about whether TWS/LTWS will be ready by the 27th.

[TomCatMucDe]

I'm also curious about whether TWS/LTWS will be ready by the 27th.

Wags answered one comment YouTube that it's coming later so not this with DL this Wednesday. We will have to be a bit more patient.

 

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[Ragnar65]

Will there be a new section in the manual for the SA and D/L functions? I reckon it´s alot more to learn than we had to until now... And for that i´d like to have some instructions on paper rather than watching the video again and again... ;-)

[QuiGon]

Will there be a new section in the manual for the SA and D/L functions? I reckon it´s alot more to learn than we had to until now... And for that i´d like to have some instructions on paper rather than watching the video again and again... ;-)

I hope so too!

[Shimmergloom667]

Will there be a new section in the manual for the SA and D/L functions? I reckon it´s alot more to learn than we had to until now... And for that i´d like to have some instructions on paper rather than watching the video again and again... ;-)

 

Wags said so:

 

"Later, once the datalink is feature complete, I’ll create a full academic video, interactive training mission, and an updated manual."

[SkipperSMG]

Does anyone know what we have to set up in the ME? Does the Datalink work like normal radios in regard to us setting up a specific channel or frequency for AWACS and other flights to distribute data through? I honestly dont know how these systems are deployed IRL. :music_whistling: In the ME this would be a knew option, wouldn't it?

[madeiner]

How do you designate your flight members? Can you have a mixed flight and designate each aircraft manually?

[Woody01]

Wow, this is going to be AWESOME!

[Jerec]

And HARM update tomorrow? TOO?

[DirtySanchez]

The A-10C uses SADLE and the Hornet uses MIDS. As such, they can only share their PPLI over an L16 gateway, no more.

 

That's not correct.

 

SADL players (A-10C and some F-16C) can see and share all J-series messages with all other Link 16 players through a gateway. A-10s can see fighter radar lock lines, AWACS/RJ/JSTARS surveillance tracks, donor SPI/LOS, etc. And vice versa.

 

MIDS LVT, MIDS JTRS, EPLRS, etc, are just network terminals. The gateway acts as a router and forwarder between Link 16 and SADL networks. EPLRS is fully capable of sending and receiving numerous J-series messages, not just PPLI.

[Wags]

Will there be a new section in the manual for the SA and D/L functions? I reckon it´s alot more to learn than we had to until now... And for that i´d like to have some instructions on paper rather than watching the video again and again... ;-)

 

Yes, once D/L and SA page are complete.

[Shadow KT]

How come no DL from player F-15s ? The flankers have DL and they are FC ? Besides, the F-15 is capable of data-link, is it not ? Isn't the reason we don't have F-15 datalink as players, the limitited functionality of the FC cockpit ?

[Mad Dog 7.62]

I am becoming confused about some of the switchology in the Hornet. Sensor select down is used to select a target for IFF interrogation, but also to designate the active display?

[TomCatMucDe]

I am becoming confused about some of the switchology in the Hornet. Sensor select down is used to select a target for IFF interrogation, but also to designate the active display?

No, the whole hat switch is depressable. You can press in 4 directions to select the HUD and MFDs and you can depress the whole thing to get an IFF. Or at least thats my understanding :)

 

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[Wags]

No, the whole hat switch is depressable. You can press in 4 directions to select the HUD and MFDs and you can depress the whole thing to get an IFF. Or at least thats my understanding :)

 

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Correct. Later in the Hornet's life the Sencsor Select Swith (castle switch) became a five-way switch that included a depress function.

[Joker328]

No, the whole hat switch is depressable. You can press in 4 directions to select the HUD and MFDs and you can depress the whole thing to get an IFF. Or at least thats my understanding :)

 

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Yes, I believe Wags has said the ability to depress the SCS was an addition to later model Hornets. Unfortunately the one on my HOTAS definitely does not have that capability. :joystick:

[Captain Slow]

The A-10C uses SADLE and the Hornet uses MIDS. As such, they can only share their PPLI over an L16 gateway, no more.

 

How will this play out in a multiplayer mission with 2 player controlled F18s and no other dlink donors (i.e. no ewr or awacs). Will the F-18s only see each other as PPLIs and not each other's radar contacts, or will MIDS run in parallel with Link16?

[Joker328]

How will this play out in a multiplayer mission with 2 player controlled F18s and no other dlink donors (i.e. no ewr or awacs). Will the F-18s only see each other as PPLIs and not each other's radar contacts, or will MIDS run in parallel with Link16?

 

As far as I understand it, MIDS and Link 16 are elements of the same system. MIDS seems to be the communication equipment whereas Link 16 is the name given to the broader NATO network of data links. To answer your specific question, F-18s should be able to pass radar contacts to each other. The issue Wags was referring to was specific to the A-10, which is apparently not on the same system.

[DirtySanchez]

To whomever deleted my post above (Rule 1.15) can you PM me please?