Free Map

[gianlu320]

May be I'm just saying a stupidity here but what would the reason be for a free new map?

There must be a specific reason for it.

And what if the Low overhead, high performance is a hint for it?

The first vulcan map?

Edited June 2, 2019 by gianlu320

[Robert31178]

I was under the impression that the "free map" would be released with MAC and was a chopped down version on the PG map?

[Tomas9970]

Looking at things from the business side, I would remake and expand the Normandy Map, and then make the Normandy Map free like the Caucus Map. This would greatly increase the demand for current aircraft, and give the War Birds a little boost. There are many who have left War Thunder, and are looking for a place to land. Making the Normandy Map Free, would be a smart business decision.

Normandy is not made by ED.

They said that the free map should have a modern and World war II version.

[Silver_Dragon]

Looking at things from the business side, I would remake and expand the Normandy Map, and then make the Normandy Map free like the Caucus Map. This would greatly increase the demand for current aircraft, and give the War Birds a little boost. There are many who have left War Thunder, and are looking for a place to land. Making the Normandy Map Free, would be a smart business decision.

 

Remember Normandy map has Ugra-Media map product, not ED.

https://ugra-media.ru/#projects

[NineLine]

Part of good business is buying out or creating joint ventures with other companies. Easily done.

 

 

 

Make Normandy Map free. Increase the bottom line. :thumbup:

 

So in order for Uglra Media to increase their bottom line, they should give away their only current product for sale in DCS?

[VirusAM]

Remember Normandy map has Ugra-Media map product, not ED.

https://ugra-media.ru/#projects

And ed is doing a new free map....

Suitable for ww2 alsp

[Tomas9970]

Joint Venture Capitalism works great.

 

 

 

A free Normandy Map will increase the demand for WWII aircraft, asset packs, and Combined Arms.

 

 

 

:thumbup:

Do you just want the Normandy map for free?

[VAF [136] Striker]

So in order for Uglra Media ..............

How do you pronounce that?

[Sierra99]

It's always a team decision with our company owner and our CEO having final say.

 

Guys were going about this all wrong...

 

We need to find out what the owner and CEO drink and pony up for a few cases of "the good stuff" to sway his opinion. :music_whistling:

[Silver_Dragon]

As a business model? No.

 

 

As a business model, I would make 3 Free Maps: Caucus, Normandy, and a Pacific Map. That is enough to Market the other products. The other Maps and future Maps would be Premium Maps. They could be larger, include an aircraft, or other bonus material. Remember, I am suggesting all this as a good business model, not what I personally want to see. ED has to survive as a business, or we the consumer, will have nothing.

 

Surely the old KS backers has been very funny about them... get free all WW2 aircraft's and the assets pack next?

Edited June 3, 2019 by Silver_Dragon

[Silver_Dragon]

No, offer the Normandy Map free. Continue to charge for WW2 aircraft and asset packs. By offering the Normandy Map Free, it will increase the demand for WWII and other aircraft. It will also increase the demand for any current, or future assets packs. It's called marketing. :thumbup:

 

Put "free" a 3rd party license product.....

[33-DFTC]

No, offer the Normandy Map free. Continue to charge for WW2 aircraft and asset packs. By offering the Normandy Map Free, it will increase the demand for WWII and other aircraft. It will also increase the demand for any current, or future assets packs. It's called marketing. :thumbup:

 

NineLine discarded this scenario a few message above your own.

[Silver_Dragon]

I was making a business/marketing suggestion. I did not say I wanted it. Is my scenario possible ? Yes. Does it make good business sense? Yes. Everyone else on this thread is hoping, guessing, picking straws, looking at Taro Cards, and dreaming. A smart business move would be to make a joint venture with the other parties involved, and give the Normandy Map away FREE :thumbup:

 

Put Ugra media Out of Business without none product to sell. what kind of "join venture" are you talking?

[NineLine]

Put out of business?

Do you know what a business Joint Venture is? :doh:

 

There are no plans for giving away the Normandy Map in the foreseeable future, so we can probably just drop the discussion.

[BuzzU]

Besides, I already bought it. :)

[stuart666]

Pohjoiskalotti!! I do so hope you're correct, but Sir Wags ruled out Kola (REF), which is immediately to the east.

 

 

 

 

A few people are now suggesting Libya and they have a really good argument. Pretty much in line with all the others you summarised.

 

 

 

 

Finland to the North Sea would make for a huge map, but it would be great if you are right!

 

 

Thank you for pointing that out. Its a pity its not Kola, but in truth it must have changed massively from what it was in WW2.

 

 

OK, so my money is still on North Cape/Finland/Norway and just maybe a slice of Northern Sweden as well. He might be disingenuous in saying no Kola. In theory, everything to the east of Murmansk is Kola. That doesn't rule out to the west up to the Norwegian/Finnish Border. And that area cant have changed much in the past 70 years. There are 2 big foxtrot oscar Airfields for Naval Aviation there. Ideal for your Backfire spamming needs.

 

 

Anyway, its a theory. I look forward to seeing it blown out the water. :D

Edited June 4, 2019 by stuart666

[Silver_Dragon]

Put out of business?

Do you know what a business Joint Venture is? :doh:

 

A joint venture has only plausible if has 2 companies has interested on that. ED has your plans, 4 maps on develop (two for WW2, a "free" (ww2 / Modern) and one more "modern"), all WW2 baseline (Damage model, Dynamic Campaign, new functionality as testbed), aircraft, maps and Assets pack modules with a dedicated WW2 team and all work on DCS teams and module "modern" teams. Ugra media has your plans ("Modern" Syria map), and actually Ugra has none plans to work on WW2.

 

The only "Joint Venture" by ED was with Belsimtek (old Partner), with work side to side with ED on projects and now fused with ED as a develop study (Working on Hornet and other modules). Ugra media has a 3rd party, as Heatblur, Razbam, Aviodev, etc, not a Partner and Ugra has not a dedicated company on DCS World (has own develops and projects outside DCS).

Edited June 4, 2019 by Silver_Dragon

[philstyle]

Put out of business?

Do you know what a business Joint Venture is? :doh:

 

ED and Ugra do not have a Join Venture.

Ugra is a seperate trading entitiy who had/have a service delivery contract with ED to delvier a map, which ED on-sells to its customers.

 

Customers who bought the Normandy map signed T&Cs with ED alone, and not Ugra Media or any other hypothetical "joint venture" entitiy. We do not know the details of the contract arrangement that ED has/ had with Ugra.

[Silver_Dragon]

ED and Ugra do not have a Join Venture.

Ugra is a seperate trading entitiy who had/have a service delivery contract with ED to delvier a map, which ED on-sells to its customers.

 

Customers who bought the Normandy map signed T&Cs with ED alone, and not Ugra Media or any other hypothetical "joint venture" entitiy. We do not know the details of the contract arrangement that ED has/ had with Ugra.

 

And Remember, Normandy Map was part of WW2 1944 (a Standalone product) KickStrarted make by RRG Studios 3rd Party (now disolved), and rescued by ED.

Edited June 4, 2019 by Silver_Dragon

[Roadrunner]

... and Wags did say the new Free one will be one that can swap between modern and WWII at some point...

 

 

"at some point"

 

Until that, i thought anything only European/African WWII areas would fit, as the assets are missing for i.e. the Pacific.

 

 

 

...although the Elefant wouldn't fit there either

 

 

What could that mean? A place where it wasnt deployed? Or a place where the army where it belonged to wasnt present at any time in the war?

 

 

 

Would you throw a few more hints NineLine / Wags?

[Grodlund]

I suppose an "Elephant" would not fit there, because it was a German tank - and this theatre was one in which the germans did not fight.

So that means it would be a map in the pacific area.

As much as this is my suspicion, it is also my hope.

 

I long for a green map with turquoise seas, white beaches and palm trees. Green. Much green.

Enough brown sand already :D

[Donut]

Hmm, interesting clues!

 

I suspect and hope for somewhere in the Pacific as well.

 

Maybe we will finally find out at the FlightSim Expo this weekend.

[Silver_Dragon]

Thank you! You just demonstrated how a business joint venture between all the above companies is not only plausible, but would be very beneficial to all. :thumbup:

 

I dont talk nothing of them, thanks to twist and misinterpretation my worlds. :doh:

[71st_AH Rob]

I suppose an "Elephant" would not fit there, because it was a German tank - and this theatre was one in which the germans did not fight.

So that means it would be a map in the pacific area.

As much as this is my suspicion, it is also my hope.

 

I long for a green map with turquoise seas, white beaches and palm trees. Green. Much green.

Enough brown sand already :D

 

No, the Elefant was only deployed to Northern Italy and the Ost Front. That leaves the Western Front and North Africa, Sicily and southern Italy, the Middle East as well as the entire fight against the Japanese Empire as possible locations.

[Donut]

No, the Elefant was only deployed to Northern Italy and the Ost Front. That leaves the Western Front and North Africa, Sicily and southern Italy, the Middle East as well as the entire fight against the Japanese Empire as possible locations.

 

Good detective work, those are all definite possibilities and if you really think about, the only possibilities given the clues. Personally though, I think it would be a poor choice to make another map with a lot of sand, unless it's sand on a beach...

 

The Western Front could be possible and improve on and expand what Normandy is. However, I don't know what scenarios this could bring for modern aircraft.

 

North Africa...too much sand.

 

Southern Italy is too narrow in scope and I don't know what scenarios it could bring to modern aircraft unless it was connected to the Syria and Caucasus maps at some point.

 

I still feel very strongly that somewhere in the Pacific makes the most sense. It is different from anything we have in DCS right now. It is very diverse and brings a lot of possible scenarios for both WWII and modern aircraft if done right.