Pre-Order begins on May 24

[pii]

I would love to pre-order it, but because I have always pre-ordered modules in the past I'm sitting on a huge pile of bonus points that I try to spend before the new system comes in. As I can't spend them on pre-sale modules I will have to wait with my purchase untill the pre-sale is over.

 

Ill bet , if you can even use them, That you will be limited to an amount that is probably equal or maybe a tiny bit more than the discount you get with pre-order. That always seem to be what happened with me. You might want to look into that.

 

I personally will wait till its almost out as I see no need to spend money on something I wouldn't even get for 6 month if I'm lucky. (I think it wall be delayed but that just may opinion) I'd be real surprised that a sim they literally just started like 7 months ago to be ready in another 6 months even for EA.

 

So good luck

[pii]

My next payday is a week from today...that's the time for me

 

Whats the rush? You have many months to save up if you need to.

[IanHx2]

An F-16 ? In DCS ? Darn right I pre-ordered..... :thumbup:

[Puma]

Viper hype vs DCS community

 

I supported the preorder of the Viper within 24 hours. I am extremely torn about throwing my support. I do want to support ED's pursuit of making DCS the go-to standard for study level simmers and pseudo-simmers alike.

 

I am in the software industry myself and deeply empathize with the complexity of balancing social demands versus revenue generating streams.

 

Adding an F-16 is a pivotal strike into the simulation community. We all know who ED is targeting with such a module. As a long term and fully committed A-10 module supporter, I hope that ED will use the Viper traction to build an ecosystem of reliable, stable and entertaining simulation products.

 

I do deeply fear that they are taking advantage of a desperate community, over extending promises and "delivering" modules far before they are consumer-ready. Job postings for testing positions are encouraging. Claims of efforts towards supporting existing modules (A-10 cockpit, for example) are promising, but for now, on the consumer side, I must choose to judge this from the consumer side: The pursuit of new modules and new markets is compromising the experiences and I am not convinced that ED has the team established which can handle the multi-dimensional complexity they have exposed by releasing modules and extending promises about future modules which may be far beyond their capacity.

 

I sincerely hope my concerns are unfounded; I dread that I am right and ED's capacity may not position them to overcome their challenges.

 

I am a dedicated fan; will be on-board to whatever end may come.

[DocSigma]

Instant purchase for me, as are most modules. Excited for the Viper.

[pimp]

Whats the rush? You have many months to save up if you need to.

It's all about what perspective you look at it. You look at it as a product you will not get for at least 6 months so why rush to buy it. I look at it as a way to further support the development of the Viper/ED. They have to pay the developers in order to continue developing. Why else would they come out with a pre-order sale so early. The F-16 has been on the back-burner since 2008 so I'm sure some programming was already done.

[nanucq]

+1

ED you have my humble support too, now take your time and create the best simulated F16 ever made ;)

[Tomsk]

I supported the preorder of the Viper within 24 hours. I am extremely torn about throwing my support. I do want to support ED's pursuit of making DCS the go-to standard for study level simmers and pseudo-simmers alike.

 

I am in the software industry myself and deeply empathize with the complexity of balancing social demands versus revenue generating streams.

 

Adding an F-16 is a pivotal strike into the simulation community. We all know who ED is targeting with such a module. As a long term and fully committed A-10 module supporter, I hope that ED will use the Viper traction to build an ecosystem of reliable, stable and entertaining simulation products.

 

I do deeply fear that they are taking advantage of a desperate community, over extending promises and "delivering" modules far before they are consumer-ready. Job postings for testing positions are encouraging. Claims of efforts towards supporting existing modules (A-10 cockpit, for example) are promising, but for now, on the consumer side, I must choose to judge this from the consumer side: The pursuit of new modules and new markets is compromising the experiences and I am not convinced that ED has the team established which can handle the multi-dimensional complexity they have exposed by releasing modules and extending promises about future modules which may be far beyond their capacity.

 

I sincerely hope my concerns are unfounded; I dread that I am right and ED's capacity may not position them to overcome their challenges.

 

I am a dedicated fan; will be on-board to whatever end may come.

 

This really resonates with me as someone who has also chosen to support the Viper, also works in the software industry, understands some of the challenges ED face, but is also concerned about the sustainability of their business model.

 

As a software developer I also have concerns about the complexity and sustainability of their code base. DCS seems to have a lot of regressions, indicating that automated testing is perhaps not where it needs to be. Although of course, I've not seen their code, so this is all just inference on my part.

 

I am very excited about the release of the Viper, this is my favourite aircraft and for me the one I've always waited for (the Hornet being my second favourite). However, I feel in many ways the priority needs to be better shoring up the core. Fixing the many bugs and improving areas of the simulation that really need some love: stability, the AI, performance (especially with big missions), ATC interaction, carrier ops, basically everything that is not "new aircraft". I'm also really keen to see the development of exciting new engine features such as A2G radar, FLIR and a dynamic campaign.

 

I hope ED can do it all, and part of my support for the Viper is that I'd like to see them make this happen: to see DCS become the full and rich sim it has the potential to be. However, like you, I wonder if the things that have been a bit neglected will continue to be neglected .. as their business model demands always releasing new modules to sell and they focus all their efforts on that aim. I can only hope these concerns are unfounded.

Edited May 26, 2019 by Tomsk

[LcSummers]

I would love to pre-order it, but because I have always pre-ordered modules in the past I'm sitting on a huge pile of bonus points that I try to spend before the new system comes in. As I can't spend them on pre-sale modules I will have to wait with my purchase untill the pre-sale is over.

 

 

HIQuiGon,

 

 

i have the same problem, but it doesn t matter for me! There are must have modules for me! The Viper is a Day 1 order for me!

 

 

 

I lost some bonus points in the past but i love ED s work and i want to support them! It doesn t matter for as long as Flight sims are supported.

 

 

 

Thats my point of view

[Ifikratis]

I also just proudly pre-purchased:D

 

I own all ED modules and this for me is the best quality guarantee that they will do their best with the F-16C. A year ago I could only dream and wish that an F-16 existed in DCS, so this is literally a dream come true. Showing my support and gratitude to Eagle Dynamics by pre-purchasing is something I happily did. I don't think people should doubt ED's practice, its money that keeps the development going and we will also get the product the day its released having paid a discounted price, so its a good agreement and support move for DCS fans.

 

Fortunately DCS gave us so many modules to keep us busy until the F-16C comes to our hands.

 

Thank you Eagle Dynamics for bringing us the Viper ! An excellent choice.

 

This should be the first May that I look forward for autumn to come :)

Edited May 26, 2019 by Ifikratis

[NeilWillis]

One thing we can say in EDs favor regarding the F-16 is that all the new systems being created for the F/A-18 that we have to wait for will be very close to the same systems in the F-16, so I suspect we will have a far more complete package, and get it far sooner for that simple reason. The groundwork will have been done already, and with tweaks, adaptable for the F-16.

 

Just a hunch, but it might be a big factor on the way the F-16 is following so closely on the F/A-18s shirt tails.

[unknown]

You can buy it the day before its actually released and still get the discount. I'll bet the autumn release is delayed. want to bet? or the plane will be seriously unbaked. IMO of course.

 

Guess I'm just tired of EA games and sims and would love to go back to he days when they finished them before selling them. :( :joystick:

 

You could put your point of view in your signature instead of quoting everybody who is happy with purchasing an EA product on the forums. This would save you alot of time and us reading the same statement for the hundredth time(at least felt). No hard feelings against you :beer:

[jopasaps]

I just arrived from a trip and I see an email from ED saying that the F16 is already in reserve. Well, to reserve it without hesitation to continue supporting Eagle Dynamics. Without them the world of simulation would not be the same. Thank you very much ED ! Keep up the great work !! :thumbup:

[Serronom]

Pre Ordered

[Pizzicato]

Pre-ordered. Always happy to support ED, and definitely looking forward to a long awaited return to the Falcon.

 

That said, though, I'm definitely starting to reach the point where I'm much more interested in improvements to the simulation environment such as dynamic campaign, better weather, better AI, and better comms versus new EA aircraft.

 

There are only so many aircraft I can stay current on, and having a compelling and immersive environment to fly in is more and more important to me.

 

Just my personal $0.02. YMMV.

[Donut]

Pre-ordered. Always happy to support ED, and definitely looking forward to a long awaited return to the Falcon.

 

That said, though, I'm definitely starting to reach the point where I'm much more interested in improvements to the simulation environment such as dynamic campaign, better weather, better AI, and better comms versus new EA aircraft.

 

There are only so many aircraft I can stay current on, and having a compelling and immersive environment to fly in is more and more important to me.

 

Just my personal $0.02. YMMV.

 

I could not have said it better myself.

 

I am all in with the F-16 and purchased it immediately. Looking back, my previous aircraft purchases (F/A-18, F-14, F-5, F-86, P-51, A-10) were just to pass the time until the F-16, which I thought would still be years away. I have enjoyed flying all of them and it has been great to experience flying each; however, like you, I only have enough time to master and enjoy flying one aircraft. If all aircraft were released at once, the F-16 would be my one and only purchase. Although, I do view my previous purchases as supporting ED as a company as well, who I would like to now see devote more time and resources to the core sim (weather, ATC, AI, performance optimization).

 

Hopefully the popularity of the F-16 will bring a significant increase in income to ED, allowing for an increase in staff to provide improvements and new features.

 

So, for anyone who loves the F-16 and knows that they will purchase it, why not get it now and support ED financially, and in doing so, hopefully improve the overall DCS experience.

[Raven68]

So many good point to the benefits of pre-purchase made here. I will be putting my order in this evening when I get home. The DCS series has been a dream come true for me and like so many here I have a lot invested in it over the years with no regrets.

[BuzzU]

Can I trade in my F/A-18 for the Viper? :D

 

 

Just a joke. Settle down.

[Raven68]

Pre Order done!! Now back to the F-18!

[Harlikwin]

This on steam yet?

[Surrexen]

After the stupid amount of time I've put into the F/A-18C and the F-14, I can only jump on board to support ED with the Viper project. The Tomcat is my real baby, but I remember flying the Viper in Strike Commander and loving it. I think I also played Falcon 3.0 once upon a time. Anyway, I've Pre-ordered.

 

Looking forward to it ED :)

[redtail]

I've been waiting for this for a long time!

 

Let see....

"F-16 Combat Pilot" and "Falcon" on my Commodore Amiga 500, "Strike Commander", "Falcon 3.0/4.0", "Allied Force".

 

 

Pre-order DCS F-16C? Oh hell yeah! :thumbup:

[Mad-Mex]

I've been waiting for this for a long time!

 

Let see....

"F-16 Combat Pilot" and "Falcon" on my Commodore Amiga 500, "Strike Commander", "Falcon 3.0/4.0", "Allied Force".

 

 

Pre-order DCS F-16C? Oh hell yeah! :thumbup:

 

Loved strike commander , had just left aircraft maintenance and gone to air traffic control. Spent so many hours on Falcon 4.0 and allied force.

 

Looking forward to this one.

[BuzzU]

Here's something to think about. Who's giving the most support?

 

Member #1...........He buys the plane pre-release at a discount.

 

Member #2..........He waits until the release of EA and pays full price.

[billeinstein]

Here's something to think about. Who's giving the most support?

 

Member #1...........He buys the plane pre-release at a discount.

 

Member #2..........He waits until the release of EA and pays full price.

 

#2 look little bit more.

But if you buy a full price product, you will get bonus or you can use your bonus. So the difference may not be very large. Both are good support.