Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 It's a pain when the virtual pilots arm is in the way of a switch/panel and you cant move it to see past... Blows the immersion for me. I'm ok with virtual pilot bodies as long as it is an option. Just bind "show pilot" to your HOTAS and toggle it on/off as desired :) Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Gigabyte RX6900XT | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | HP Reverb G2 Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2+3 base / CM2 x2 grip with 200 mm S-curve extension + CM3 throttle + CP2/3 + FSSB R3L + VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS "HIGH" preset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobo Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Just bind "show pilot" to your HOTAS and toggle it on/off as desired :) So, yeah... no. Lobo's DCS A-10C Normal Checklist & Quick Reference Handbook current version 8D available here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/172905/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruman Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I never fly with Pilot on. The body, especially the left arm is blocking to much of the panel. IMHO Toggeling Body is more anoying than seeing an empty seat pan. But since its available on most other module, its a must have for the A-10C II module. The pilots who enjoy flying with body visibile will be happy. Additional to Toggle ON-OFF, I really like to have a Arm-Less Version... Or when you looking down at the panel, the arm will be lifted up (Simple animation, doesnt need to be fancy. Just usable). Then I would fly with Pilot On. Intel I9 10900k @5.1GHz | MSI MEG Z490 Unify | Corsair Vengeance 64GB - 3600MHz | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 VPC T-50 Base /w Viper & Hornet Grip | VPC Rotor TCS Pro w/ Hawk-60 Grip | TM TPR LG C2 42" | Reverb G2 | TIR 5 | PointCtrl | OpenKneeboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precog Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Any official word on the pilot body? Check out my 'real world' video series [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMoGas Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Having the virtual pilots arms or other part become transparent when you mouse over them to click switches would be handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaneuk Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Pilot body please! +1. Much needed for VR flying. Thank you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakamora Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Any plans for adding pilot body in the new a10c ? Its crucial for imersion in vr! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash * Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) Am 20.9.2020 um 09:46 schrieb Precog: Any official word on the pilot body? Hello ED? Many of us would really love to have this very old question answered. A simple yes or no would be very nice to start with. @ BIGNEWY can you ask, please? The A-10C is great, but the empty seat in the cockpit is an immersionbreaker. I'm not invisible. Edited March 30, 2021 by Crash * better formulation 3 System Specs: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, RX 6900 XT, 64GB RAM // Tobsen CM Kollektiv, VPC CM3 Throttle, VPC WarBRD Rudder Pedals, VPC T-50 CM2 + WarBRD Base VR: HP Reverb G2 Helis: UH-1H / KA-50 3 / Mi-8 / Mi-24P / SA-342 / AH-64D Jets: F-5E / F-14A/B / F/A-18C / MC-2000 / A-10C II / AV-8B / AJS 37 / MIG-21bis / F-16C / F-15E / F-4E (soon) WWII: Spitfire / WWII Assets Pack Tech.: Combined Arms / NS430 / Supercarrier Maps: Nevada / Persian Gulf / Normandie / Syria / South Atlantic Waiting for: BO-105 / OH 58D / CH-47 Chinook / G.91R / Tornado IDS / A-7E Corsair II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristod76 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 For me it is must have for VR. I would like to have it in all modules. 4 Helis: UH-1H | Mi-8MTV2+NS430 | Ka-50 III | SA342 | Mi-24P | AH-64D, Planes: F/A-18C | F-14 | Supercarrier | MiG-21bis | AJS37 | F-5E | AV-8B | M2000C | F-16C | L-39C+NS430 | C-101 | F-86F | MiG-15 | MiG-19 | FC3 | A-10C II, WWII: P-51D | Bf-109 | Fw-190 D9 | Mosquito FB VI | P-47D | WWII pack, GA: Yak-52 | Christen Eagle II, Maps: Nevada | Normandy 2.0 | Persian Gulf | Syria | The Channel PC: 7800x3D, RTX 4090, 64 GB RAM, VR: HP Reverb G2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bvv.Fr Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 for me too, and i don't care if some people don't need a pilot body, we just should have the choice 4 this game is incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo03 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Even though i love the A-10C, getting a pilot body would make the A-10C becoming a whole new module to me 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 bump ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Bump... I thought this is included in the new graphics. Maybe some cool animations besides HOTAS and pedals? Like when somebody (sic) commands gear up left hand should quickly move the lever up. Or master arm and Gun arms... maybe even the OSBs... I know maybe is asking too much but I can't observe the agonizing slowness of "the industry" in incorporating some essential features. Like IK stuff... Sorry to compare but there are mods for Skyrim that introduce body IK like the devs weren't able to do and for free. What we get in flightsims are renders with sculpted pilot bodies in 1 billion triangles for 10 years. I mean if I would be EDs CEO I would simply go to nexusmods and ask a moder there... "dude, how much for some IK animations like this and this on this generic P51 pilot body from 15 years ago?" And that would be mostly enough. Also... seeing (still) people here like voting "no" for this... why bother reading this thread? Just go in options and make sure is not ticked and you will be a ghost in the cockpit as much you please. 2 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GVO Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 5/18/2021 at 2:08 PM, kristod76 said: For me it is must have for VR. I would like to have it in all modules. Yes same here. I wonder why so few modules have a pilot body. But perhaps it takes way more work than I imagine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Was a pilot body ever mentionned by the devs at some point in a roadmap ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhunter Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 hours ago, pixie said: Was a pilot body ever mentionned by the devs at some point in a roadmap ? Not for the A-10C specifically but it should honestly be standard on all modules. How come our old F/A-18C has one but all subsequent ED planes don't? Even Razbam was able to implement them to the Mirage and Harrier rather quickly and have plans to do so for the 15E on release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 It seems it's a polarizing topic and when devs don't find it useful they simply assume everyone shouldn't bother. On the other hand when they accept it as a requested feature (remember back in the days people thought a cockpit is a hinder in seeing outside?) they don't really understand what is requested so they default to some wrong assumptions. That's why you see on Heatblur's F14s and Razbam's Mirage and Harrier so much time and resources wasted on "sculpting" the pilot to a fidelity that is never requested then more work on transferring the useless polygons into normal maps only to end up 2-3 years later with a deformed over expensive to develop pilot body. Or missing altogether in the case of F14 and all other EDs modules that don't have one. Should it look as best as possible? Yes but that is not mandatory. What is asked is a pilot body, possible animated. I am sure everyone here that want a pilot body would rather have one on the first Ka50 and P51 fidelity but animated. More animated cockpit interactions (like I said gear and some switches) and maybe... just maybe better control on the ground and god forbid on parachute would be far far far more useful than absurd million polycount models. my same 2c 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 On 10/28/2021 at 2:48 PM, pixie said: Was a pilot body ever mentionned by the devs at some point in a roadmap ? I seem to remember ED saying they are working on a cockpit pilot model that they can use in all of their modules, instead of having to make a new one for every single module. Basically that would require a model with a skeletal system that can be moved in such a way that it fits in all sorts of ejection seats, and can handle different positions of control stick and throttle. I think currently mostly static models are used that are made specifically for 1 single setup. That's a lot of resources wasted... Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Gigabyte RX6900XT | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | HP Reverb G2 Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2+3 base / CM2 x2 grip with 200 mm S-curve extension + CM3 throttle + CP2/3 + FSSB R3L + VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS "HIGH" preset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 That makes sense ! Crossing fingers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziptie Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 Making a return to the forums after 6 to 9 months of real world tasking, and................................................... BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP. Would still love to see this (or at least see an update from an ED dev/mod) added. PS. Great to hear the change to the A10's engine after getting DCS up to the most current OB version. Having a play with all the new toys for the Viper and seeing all the work that has been done over those past 6 to 9 months. Great job, looking forward to seeing what else is incoming. v/r Ziptie i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Welcome back, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogster Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) No body, armless, no body, options please. The seat with no body looks weird imo, moreso as the belts are sat there undone. I really don’t understand why this isn’t an option, the Ka-50 always had it iirc. Edited January 4, 2022 by Mogster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ready Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Agreed. It now looks silly in VR flying an empty seat. When switching to another airframe with a body gives a totally different feel I fly an A-10C II in VR and post my DCS journey on | Subscribe to my DCS A-10C channel Come check out the 132nd Virtual Wing | My 4090 VR Performance Optimization SYSTEM SPECS: Ryzen 7 5800X3D, RTX4090, Varjo Aero, VKB Gunfigher MKIII MCG Ultimate with 10cm extension,VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, VPC Control Panel #2, TM TPR Rudders. 64GB RAM, W10, Gametrix Jetseat, PointCTRL (currently broken), OpenKneeboard, Wacom Intuos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Now Jan 2022, and still no pilot body for the A10C /A10C II ? Anyone got an update? Totally agree an empty pit is a real immersion killer with VR. 1 Fish's Flight Sim Videos [sIGPIC]I13700k, RTX4090, 64gb ram @ 3600, superUltraWide 5120x1440, 2560x1440, 1920x1080, Warthog, Tusba TQS, Reverb VR1000, Pico 4, Wifi6 router, 360/36 internet[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 February bump ! ED could at least give us a straight answer on this subject, a simple yes-no would be a start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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