seko555 Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Why don't you apply real values to ammunition like HARM, AIM120, AIM9? We don't want to play games. We want to fly in simulation. Separate the ammunition settings file on the servers. or while preparing the task, we must be allowed to change the settings to get real values. We spend hours with Dcs. please be sensitive. The F18 went on sale 1.5 years ago. Dcs should remove aircraft from early access. Producing so many planes is a big mistake.
QuiGon Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Why don't you apply real values to ammunition like HARM, AIM120, AIM9? We don't want to play games. We want to fly in simulation. Separate the ammunition settings file on the servers. or while preparing the task, we must be allowed to change the settings to get real values. We spend hours with Dcs. please be sensitive. Well, how about you provide details what's wrong with those weapons, so they can be adjusted? The F18 went on sale 1.5 years ago. Dcs should remove aircraft from early access. Producing so many planes is a big mistake. I disagree. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Rudel_chw Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 ... We don't want to play games. We want to fly in simulation. Actually, Simulation is a sub-genre of Games. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
ngreenaway Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 . The F18 went on sale 1.5 years ago. Dcs should remove aircraft from early access. Producing so many planes is a big mistake. Early Access denotes level of completion rather than age of the aircraft module, and alongside the f-16, the f18 has been seeing plenty of updates lately to bring it closer to completion [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE
martinistripes Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Why don't you apply real values to ammunition like HARM, AIM120, AIM9? Tell ED what's not real and give your source of information. Is it not real because it's incomplete (ie. early access) or are you saying they made a mistake? I'm sure if your source of information is more credible than theirs, they will listen and make the necessary adjustments. Valve Index | RTX 4080 (Mobile) | i9-14900HX @ 2.20 GHz | 32GB RAM
TLTeo Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) DCS is first and foremost a sandbox, hence it's whatever users want it to be. It's a procedural sim for the Armee de l'Air, a game for those that fly airquake, and anything in between. Some things may work better or worse depending on what is allowed by the environment and software. So yeah, complaining about "missile values" or early access is kind of pointless because neither render DCS more or less of a simulator, game or whatever you make of it. Edited January 28, 2020 by TLTeo
Tippis Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 To answer the title: yes. We don't want to play games. Yes we do. If you're trying to argue in favour of specific parameter tweaks and updates to flight models and the like, try doing that — with accurate, well-sourced, reliable data to back it up — rather than false dichotomies because those never help. ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧
draconus Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) What's all the fuss about? He probably have read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-120_AMRAAM Operational range • AIM-120A/B: 55–75 km (30–40 nmi) • AIM-120C-5: >105 km (>57 nmi)and was surprised by DCS game play, having no idea of what is this range exactly. Edited January 28, 2020 by draconus Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
seko555 Posted January 28, 2020 Author Posted January 28, 2020 Being a butler in Dcs. my shot parameters, HARM: sunny weather. 28.000 feet 311 knot distance to destination 40 miles result: harm could not reach the target. If you want to have fun, buy and play playstation.
FoxTwo Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 my shot parameters, HARM: sunny weather. 28.000 feet 311 knot distance to destination 40 miles result: harm could not reach the target. If you want to have fun, buy and play playstation. If you're not having fun maybe you should take a break.
Matchstick Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 my shot parameters, HARM: sunny weather. 28.000 feet 311 knot distance to destination 40 miles result: harm could not reach the target. If you want to have fun, buy and play playstation. So what information do you have that says that this behaviour by the DCS HARM is incorrect ? It may well be that there's a problem so if you have an authoritative data source you can point to then maybe ED can include that information and improve the game.
draconus Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 my shot parameters, HARM: sunny weather. 28.000 feet 311 knot distance to destination 40 miles result: harm could not reach the target. Even public sources say 30+ miles for range, so? Maybe you confused it with the newest E version? Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
seko555 Posted January 28, 2020 Author Posted January 28, 2020 Try it yourself. Try it yourself. Get a high degree of difficulty. this is a simulation.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 28, 2020 ED Team Posted January 28, 2020 Why don't you apply real values to ammunition like HARM, AIM120, AIM9? We don't want to play games. We want to fly in simulation. Separate the ammunition settings file on the servers. or while preparing the task, we must be allowed to change the settings to get real values. We spend hours with Dcs. please be sensitive. The F18 went on sale 1.5 years ago. Dcs should remove aircraft from early access. Producing so many planes is a big mistake. my shot parameters, HARM: sunny weather. 28.000 feet 311 knot distance to destination 40 miles result: harm could not reach the target. If you want to have fun, buy and play playstation. Hi welcome to the forum. If you want to report an issue or if you think the information we have is wrong please attach a short track replay showing your issue and if you have information about performance please feel free to PM. We have rules about sharing classified information so I would suggest reading our forum rules before sharing such information. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
AnarchyZG Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Like TLTeo and Gahab141 have stated, it is a simulator in terms of procedural simulation (you know, the cockpit switchology - button-pressing simulator). Regarding actual COMBAT simulation, no, it's a game, more or less arcade(ish). Some of the shortcomings are based on: - lack of information (data is classified so ED has to make an educated guess) - limitation of real-time simulation (e.g. you can't use CFD for flight modelling in real time) - lack of interest (or priority) by both customers and ED in improving combat aspect of the game/sim (I play DCS online 99% of time and I'm personally very interested in more authentic combat mechanics, but many are more interested in procedural sim offline and don't find the combat authenticity as important) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] MATRIC developer Check out MATRIC and forget about keyboard shortcuts
ngreenaway Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 If you want to have fun, buy and play playstation. That's a pretty d*cked up attitude, we're all here for our own reasons & ED does a pretty good job of accommodating as many as they can. If, in addition to being a sim, this wasn't fun at all thered be a lot fewer people here- who wants to devote hours of free time to something they don't enjoy [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 28, 2020 ED Team Posted January 28, 2020 I will close this thread, It will give the op a chance to report the bug correctly if he thinks there is one, based on the information we have it is correct. a guide can be found here https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=147710 Thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
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