speed-of-heat Posted February 14, 2020 Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) Is pretty unacceptable at the moment, i have considerable stuttering and poor framerates when operating on 2.5.6, SSLR is already off Edited February 14, 2020 by speed-of-heat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
awjudge Posted February 14, 2020 Posted February 14, 2020 Have you tried deleting your fxo and Metashaders folders in your Saved Games/DCS folder?
speed-of-heat Posted February 14, 2020 Author Posted February 14, 2020 Have you tried deleting your fxo and Metashaders folders in your Saved Games/DCS folder? yep SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Shuenix Posted February 14, 2020 Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) Tried 3 diff. servers, All began to lag after 15-30 min. The last server I was on, I was the only player, but it began to lag heavyli at +30 minuttes. Normally I do not have lag. Edited February 14, 2020 by Shuenix
Shimmergloom667 Posted February 14, 2020 Posted February 14, 2020 Been testing for two hours over 3 modules in SP so far - no performance changes for me so far (hell I think it got a bit faster, tbh). Do you see issues on MP or in SP? i7 - 9700K | 32 GB DDR4 3200 | RTX 2080 | VKB Gunfighter Mk II /w MCG Pro | Virpil T-50CM2 Throttle | TrackIR 5 | VKB Mk. IV AJS-37 | A/V-8B | A-10C | F-14A/B | F-16C | F-18C | F-86F | FC3 | JF-17 | Ka-50 | L-39 | Mi-8 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19 | MiG-21bis | M2000-C | P-51D | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | UH-1H
speed-of-heat Posted February 15, 2020 Author Posted February 15, 2020 SP , certainly frametimes on the Steniss have gotten worse, so i think they have tweaked something there SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Oceandar Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 I must be lucky because I don't see any FPS drop. More or less the same as before probably even little bit better with new lighting :D (free flight both Caucasus and PG instant mission). No mods whatsoever, clean install. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze
Teldja Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 I have also experienced the same behaviour since I updated the beta client to version 2.5.6. and I have cleaned both fxo and metashaders folders. The performance are worst than the previous version. I play in VR and did not change the graphics settings except for SSLR. I tried it on and off but that did not seems to have any significant impact on the performance. The improved lightning is very much appreciated, the visibility is much better now than before. We will see if ED manage to improve the performance with the next patch, this is still work in progress and it will probably takes time for them to optimise DCS with the new version.
bucklehead Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Booted today after work. Tried a TTI SP mission. Previously no issues running it in VR. Today noticed small pauses every 10 seconds or so. Previously had NVIDIA control panel work the graphics settings while set to off in DCS. Tried switching it to NVIDIA off and DCS on for those options. No change, still have issues. This is with a 9900K @ 5.0, 32gb of ram and a 1080ti. Was really looking forward to using the new gunsight in the F-16, but with the performance the way it is, ill have to wait for a hotfix or something. Dont really want to dig out my trackIR. Yes - i have cleared my fxo and metashaders folders. Specs: i9 9900k, GTX 1080ti, 32gb ram, Oculus Rift S Modules Owned: A-10A, A-10C, F-5E, F-14B, F-15C, F-16C, F-86F, M2000, MiG-29, MiG-21 Modules Most Wanted: F-4B, F-4C, F-4D, F-4E, F-4J, F-4N, F-4S
Shuenix Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 We will see if ED manage to improve the performance with the next patch, this is still work in progress and it will probably takes time for them to optimise DCS with the new version. I hope it can be done with a fast hotfix. Now it pretty much a no go on the servers I usualy fly on.
ThorBrasil Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 I had a loss of 25/35 FPS in big cities with SSLR turned off. If I turn on SSLR I will lose even more. I hope the performance is corrected. The graphics were very beautiful. The night was very beautiful. |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
Svsmokey Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 I had to turn some graphics settings down/off to reclaim my previous performance . 2.56 does look better though... 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2
Harlikwin Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Why am I not surprised in the least... b:doh: New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
Paco Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 I had one mission where I went from 50-60 FPS to the teens. Found out all my triggers and holds on WP's weren't working......seems the new update trashed the triggers. Paco
Targanon Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 all these fps and pause issues you guys are experiencing could be related to the vehicle pathing issue that is known issue.. I'm only throwing that out there I'm not at home, and want be for 6 days so the only thing that has been updated is my server.. and that seems to be working well from a server admin side of things I'll know when people start logging onto it later tonight.. Targs, GTX 1080ti, Asus Hero XI, Intel 9900KF @4.2MHz, 32g DDR4@3200Mhz, 4x 1Tb SSD 1x 400g m.2mvme(boot), 28" Samsung 4k, Saitek X-56 Throttle/Warthog Stick and Saitek Pro Flight Pedals. Moduls All of the NATO jets, and all the choppers.. DEDi MP [62AW] The Blackbirds Brisbane
speed-of-heat Posted February 15, 2020 Author Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) I don’t think so, I replace the default vr hanger with the stennis , so there is no pathing, in the vr menu, the frame times have gone from 6-8ms to some 18 -20ms... all is fine if you use the default vr hanger... my guess they up rev’d the model...or maybe it’s a lighting issue...but as there are perf issues being reported for other stennis related mission my guess is it’s a model change... Edited February 16, 2020 by speed-of-heat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
speed-of-heat Posted February 15, 2020 Author Posted February 15, 2020 mirrors which were always FPS hogs, are even worse now as well. SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Knock-Knock Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 I lost performance with 2.5.6 too. In single player, a mission I have been building for some days now (rather ground unit intensive) just went unplayable. Lost at least half my frames, just sitting there on the ramp (units not visible from there). Online I have lost performance too, joined on a dedicated server. Not as much as the above, but enough to see and measure it. Id say a good 25% in MP, and as much as 50% in unit intensive missions. This is in 1080p monitor and SSLR is off. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals |
speed-of-heat Posted February 15, 2020 Author Posted February 15, 2020 Yep, rolling back, i will re try if and when a hotfix comes out SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Shimmergloom667 Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Booted today after work. Tried a TTI SP mission. Previously no issues running it in VR. Today noticed small pauses every 10 seconds or so. Previously had NVIDIA control panel work the graphics settings while set to off in DCS. Tried switching it to NVIDIA off and DCS on for those options. No change, still have issues. This is with a 9900K @ 5.0, 32gb of ram and a 1080ti. Was really looking forward to using the new gunsight in the F-16, but with the performance the way it is, ill have to wait for a hotfix or something. Dont really want to dig out my trackIR. Yes - i have cleared my fxo and metashaders folders. That's TTI causing the issues, though. A lot of 3rd party scripts are broken due to changes in the scripting engine right now, causing CPU load and/or crashes. Everyone is working on it, but until fixed you should refrain from using missions with heavy scripting, or even better w/o scripts at all. i7 - 9700K | 32 GB DDR4 3200 | RTX 2080 | VKB Gunfighter Mk II /w MCG Pro | Virpil T-50CM2 Throttle | TrackIR 5 | VKB Mk. IV AJS-37 | A/V-8B | A-10C | F-14A/B | F-16C | F-18C | F-86F | FC3 | JF-17 | Ka-50 | L-39 | Mi-8 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19 | MiG-21bis | M2000-C | P-51D | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | UH-1H
Highwayman-Ed Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) Same performance loss here as well, although it was much more pronounced in the Persian Gulf map on an MP server than in SP. In single player, there are micro stutters every few minutes that start after about 10 to 15 minutes and get progressively worse. Edit: Adding here that this experience is in VR and there seems to be a commonality that those of us experiencing the FPS loss all seem to be for those of us using VR Edited February 15, 2020 by Highwayman-Ed Intel i9-9900KF @5.2GHz MSI Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon 32GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR3200 RAM MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio 40" Panasonic TH-40DX600U @ 4K Pimax Vision 8K Plus / Oculus Rift CV1 / HTC Vive Gametrix JetSeat with SimShaker Windows 10 64 Bit Home Edition [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
zcrazyx Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 I play vr in normandy on mp and noticed no frame drop, same for default map in sp
Miro Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Same here, FPS has cut by half. in situations where i got constant 60, even when i lower my graphics settings V-sync give me 30FPS. Without V-sycnc is even worse (constant drops and gains). Unplayable for me, because below 60fps my trackir dont work properly, before patch i got constant 60 all the time. Specs: 4790K @4.6, GTX1080, 16 GB RAM, SSD. :pilotfly:
petsild Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Now, I've tried many combinations of reduced detail, but to performance 2.5.5 I can't get. I was expecting the arrival 2.5.6 improvement, what has changed that is the complete opposite of that? MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium.
Tippis Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 That's TTI causing the issues, though. A lot of 3rd party scripts are broken due to changes in the scripting engine right now, causing CPU load and/or crashes. Everyone is working on it, but until fixed you should refrain from using missions with heavy scripting, or even better w/o scripts at all. Tbh, since all proper missions rely heavily on scripting, that's not much of a solution. Sure you can still fly around and possibly shoot things, but actual missions, in SP and most certainly in MP, are just right out at the moment. The only real solution is rolling back and waiting for the fixes to be in. :( ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧
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