Just, pitty!

[ngreenaway]

Look at all of that wasted space under the horizontal stabilizers! Just trim it out a bit.

 

Get rid of those big boxy things behind the wings, and u might be able to load up some cruise missiles too

[Mars Exulte]

Fusedspine33, Top Jockey

So i have plenty of time to get married and have children ? :)

(Just kidding)

Ok i accept the "early access" but i haven't see any progress

of any kind. Seems frozen!

 

Lunatic98

F.e. I want to load (in all pylons) just AMRAAMs. I can't.

 

Hawkeye_UK

So you mean that i can't load what i want as it is a matter

of the mission restrictions ?

 

 

PS: Also, M2000C, is missing lots of weapons.

 

 

.......*sigh*......

[AG-51_Sabot]

Back in my day of flying we also towed ' eleven long-haired Friends a' Jesus In a chartreuse micra-bus

[ADHS]

Thank you all for your opinions.

They were very usefull even those

that they didn't like my meaning.

For those that indeed gave a serious

comment i thank them all, respect!

 

As for the A-10:

Strategy and Roles people.

I have done this in BMS by cleaning

the horizon, so my mattes splash all

opponents while they were trying to

avoid my 2 AMRAAMS that were chasing

them. You may learn some more if you

setup your own payload, according

your ROLE in a TEAM-WORKING mission.

 

As for the early access, understood.

 

And a question to all out there:

Is this a forum or a court ?

New comers will always ask to learn.

As you all did once,

when you started DCS.

 

Thank you all

 

PS: I am using Open Beta.

Edited May 20, 2020 by ADHS

[Mfezi]

You ask whether this is a forum or a court, but really, look at your initial post: It was not a question from a "new comer to learn", as you now claim in your previous post. You didn't ask, you criticized. You said, and let me quote: "It is just pitty, plus VERY dissapointing from the CUSTOMER's point of view." That is not how you end a post if you were simply inquiring.

 

On the A-10, you are asking for a feature that goes against the whole point of a simulation: In this case, for the developers to waste their time so you can put weapons on an aircraft that in real life never carried them and that never will carry them because they require a radar for proper employment, something that said aircraft doesn't have. Isn't there enough scope in the program already to explore an infinite number of scenarios? Why do you want an AMRAAM on an A-10? Your question is no different than if you asked for sidewinders on the I-16.

 

As for your mention of BMS: If you were able to shoot AMRAAMS from an A-10 it is a fault in BMS, not a feature and very definitely not one that should be duplicated in DCS.

[ADHS]

Mfezi

Seems that you haven't read the above answers.

As a Customer this is the FORUM for DCS, or not ?

F.E. If you are happy to buy a jet without Radar, i am not.

[Kang]

Mfezi

Seems that you haven't read the above answers.

As a Customer this is the FORUM for DCS, or not ?

F.E. If you are happy to buy a jet without Radar, i am not.

You have missed the point of what people have been trying to tell you entirely, I believe. If buying a jet without a radar is not making you happy, it is a bad choice to buy a jet that doesn't feature radar. The real life A-10 doesn't have any, that's why the simulated DCS one doesn't either.

[ADHS]

So, according your point i've missed the whole thing.

And what are you telling me Kang ? Have you got any

answer/directions for my thread ?

Are you an official of DCS ? or am i answering to any

ones assumptions ? like Mfezi that excused the Developers ?

 

 

Yes i am a CUSTOMER and i don't have to explain this.

Edited May 20, 2020 by ADHS

[Topo]

...is this a joke? :huh:

[QuiGon]

So, according your point i've missed the whole thing.

And what are you telling me Kang ? Have you got any

answer/directions for my thread ?

Are you an official of DCS ? or am i answering to any

ones assumptions ? like Mfezi that excused the Developers ?

 

Yes i am a CUSTOMER and i don't have to explain this.

Dude, really, maybe try to comprehend what people are trying to tell you (and rightly so!), before making such comments. You ARE apparently missing the entrie point of the issue here...

[ADHS]

Some people need to read before posting directions & directives.

[sniperwolfpk5]

I see some room in the middle, can we squeeze in a tomahawk and a couple iglas?

:megalol:

 

Look at all of that wasted space under the horizontal stabilizers! Just trim it out a bit.

 

Get rid of those big boxy things behind the wings, and u might be able to load up some cruise missiles too

 

No offence to original poster and respect

 

but I can't controlllllllllll

 

hahahahhhhahhahhahahah :megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Swift.]

I shall try to lay things out clearly, as a newcomer to this thread:

 

DCS is a Simulation, that means you will only ever (for the most part) see things that exist in real life.

This means you will only see weapons on the A-10 that it can carry irl, and you will only see weapons on an F-18 that it carries irl, etc.

 

I understand that you have experience in BMS correct? There is a key point to note about BMS, all the non-F16 aircraft are just reskinned F16s. This leads to things such as you are describing, an A-10 carrying an F-16s loadout (Amraams).

 

Before you purchase an aircraft in DCS, it is advisable to research that aircraft's capabilities and features, and if the real aircraft does not have what you want eg a radar, then don't buy it.

[Bagpipe]

Thank you all for your opinions.

They were very usefull even those

that they didn't like my meaning.

For those that indeed gave a serious

comment i thank them all, respect!

 

As for the A-10:

Strategy and Roles people.

I have done this in BMS by cleaning

the horizon, so my mattes splash all

opponents while they were trying to

avoid my 2 AMRAAMS that were chasing

them. You may learn some more if you

setup your own payload, according

your ROLE in a TEAM-WORKING mission.

 

As for the early access, understood.

 

And a question to all out there:

Is this a forum or a court ?

New comers will always ask to learn.

As you all did once,

when you started DCS.

 

Thank you all

 

PS: I am using Open Beta.

 

 

Absolutely valid point, I think those picking on the OP need to take a time out and get a grip.

This is a forum where users of all levels of DCS experience can ask questions and make comments free of ridicule. I am sure @BIGNEWY will delete those comments which clearly breach the rules of the forum regarding behaviour to other users.

 

DCS has a game mode aswell remember, therefor is not JUST a study sim.

Although you would have to READ to realise that too! :book::smilewink:

 

I really do not like toxic posts towards others.:mad:

[Tricky11]

Thank you all for your opinions.

They were very usefull even those

that they didn't like my meaning.

For those that indeed gave a serious

comment i thank them all, respect!

 

As for the A-10:

Strategy and Roles people.

I have done this in BMS by cleaning

the horizon, so my mattes splash all

opponents while they were trying to

avoid my 2 AMRAAMS that were chasing

them. You may learn some more if you

setup your own payload, according

your ROLE in a TEAM-WORKING mission.

 

As for the early access, understood.

 

And a question to all out there:

Is this a forum or a court ?

New comers will always ask to learn.

As you all did once,

when you started DCS.

 

Thank you all

 

PS: I am using Open Beta.

 

My God man.,,THE A10s dont have Aim120s in real life so why would they here?

[ADHS]

sniperwolfpk5,

Thank you, indeed you've collect the highlights that are wonderful and unique!

(I laught out loud also)

 

Swiftwin9s

Thank you for your explanation my friend. This tone was what i was expecting

in the official DCS forum.

 

Also, to all the rest that they just missing the subject of the thread:

i've got my answer from other respectfull users (as you two) before: EARLY ACCESS!

And thank everybody (not the spammers)

 

 

PS: Bagpipe thank you for your neutral position my friend. Greetings to Scotland from a Greek!

Tricky11 are you sure that in reality they dont use the A-10's pylons with nuclear warheads? Check it!

Edited May 20, 2020 by ADHS

[ngreenaway]

Some people need to read before posting directions & directives.

 

And some people need to peruse the documentation that comes with the aircraft, or the very helpful guides put out by Chuck owll before complaining that it's a pity from the consumers point of view that they can't load what they want, where they want, on whatever aircraft they like.

 

I'm sorry buddy, but you walked right into that one. Just be glad you didn't make that post on Hoggit.

 

There's a very steep learning curve to DCS, and part of the satisfaction that comes from it is derived from becoming competent in these incredibly complex (not looking at you, CE2) aircraft.

 

We recognize the position you're in at the bottom of that learning curve, and some have given you clarification, but you also have to realize the statements you've made are the kind of thing that gives us a good laugh. People are going to have fun with that.

[QuiGon]

This is a forum where users of all levels of DCS experience can ask questions

I absolutly agree, but it's one thing asking a question or if you come in bursting through the door ranting that things are wrong, when you're actually the one who is wrong and has no clue.

Again, having no clue and asking questions is absolutly fine. That's what the forums are there for. But having no clue and telling others how things are supposed to be ("A-10 is missing its AMRAAMs"!) is not the way to go...

Edited May 20, 2020 by QuiGon

[Bagpipe]

Absolutly, but it's one thing asking a question or if you come in bursting through the door ranting that things are wrong, when you're actually the one who is wrong and has no clue.

Again, having no clue and asking questions is absolutly fine. That's what the forums are there for. But having no clue and telling others how things are supposed to be ("A-10 is missing its AMRAAMs"!) is not the way to go...

 

Taking a deep breath and answering respectfully (as others have demonstrated) is always the best approach.

Heck, i am guilty of having little patience at times but i strive to better myself and hopefully set a good example for others. :D

[ADHS]

ngreenaway

No need to read the whole PDFs to realize that most

of the systems and Weapons are missing.

To help you proove your own words,

read the starter at the 1st page so you to remember

(once you can READ) what are we talking for in this

thread in here. I would like to see your comments for.

Then, you can all laugh about my ignorance, or yours.

(Laughing is free, no cost)

 

QuiGon,

if you dissagree with my ignorance, why you don't

proove to me (and to others) your knowliedge and

your ability to explain ? I don't think that you

woke up one day and you knew everything for everyone.

 

Bagpipe,

you are an example that others should mimic. (My opinion)

The propper forum stance even towards noobs like me.

Edited May 20, 2020 by ADHS

[Mfezi]

Mfezi

Seems that you haven't read the above answers.

As a Customer this is the FORUM for DCS, or not ?

F.E. If you are happy to buy a jet without Radar, i am not.

 

Which answer do you think did I not read before I wrote that response? Did I maybe misunderstand your point about the A-10 that apparently can fire AMRAAMs in BMS, which would be completely wrong? Did I misunderstand that you were still, at that point in the discussion, asking for AMRAAMs to be added to the DCS A-10?

 

I'm sure by now it has become quite clear, although Kang already answered it very clearly in post #13 of this thread and I thought I did the same:

 

Real A-10C as operated by USAF:

1) No radar

2) No AMRAAM

 

DCS A-10C module:

1) No radar

2) No AMRAAM

 

Therefore, my response to your last sentence above is yes, since the real USAF A-10C did not have a radar, I was certainly happy to buy the A-10C module in DCS also without a radar. In fact, I would have been pretty annoyed if they did put one in.

 

Perhaps I should also warn in advance, there are many other jets in DCS that also don't have radars, just like their real life counterparts. Therefore, be careful and do a bit of reading before you buy any other modules. Also, as you have already seen with the F-16 - read carefully what early access means and in what state of development the module is before you buy.

[ADHS]

Mfezi,

thank you, but i respect your point of view

that i don't agree. According the reality that

you have describe, why F-16 doesn't have

Wavericks or HAARM ?

 

The answer is the "early access" that i've got

as an answer to this thread. I am happy with this.

[Bagpipe]

The Hornet is much further along in it's devlopment and has radar, amraam and serveral other wapons.

Some are still being developed but are less common and may take some time due to requiring other systems developed like full AG radar integration.

 

Have a read through the mini updates for viper, hornet etc. in each modules respective forum section and you will see what i mean.

 

Take care and don't step in the dog s***

[ADHS]

The Hornet is much further along in it's devlopment and has radar, amraam and serveral other wapons.

Take care and don't step in the dog s***

 

 

This was the ONLY ONE that i was happy to buy!

Too many weapons and too many active systems

to spend my time, as it is almost full of everything.

 

You too my friend, i don't bite, i am bitting :)

[Mfezi]

Mfezi,

thank you, but i respect your point of view

that i don't agree. According the reality that

you have describe, why F-16 doesn't have

Wavericks or HAARM ?

 

The answer is the "early access" that i've got

as an answer to this thread. I am happy with this.

 

 

Please read my posts more carefully: I responded only to your questions about the AMRAAM on the A-10. It was clear by then that you already knew why certain things were still missing on the F-16. The two issues are unrelated:

 

 

1) Missing items on F-16: Because of early access - to be added later (if applicable to the real jet).

 

2) Missing AMRAAM on A-10C: Because of reality - never to be added.