tacannav Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 I think that this F14 is great,. But maybe they should include a non Historical loadout option with such weapons as the shrike anti radiation missile or the AGM- 78 or even the harm,. Does anyone think this is a good idea, think heatblur should do this?
QuiGon Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Absolutly not! I don't want some fantasy systems on the F-14, because apart from implementing the weapons itself, Heatblur would have to implement some totally fantasy avionic interfaces for the Tomcat for the crew to interact with the weapon. That's not what DCS is about... Heatblur already gave us loadouts that have never been used in real life, like the Zuni rockets, but they have been integrated into the Tomcat in real life at least, just never used. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Falby Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 It's a no from me as well. If you you want those weapons the Hornet is what you want. The F-14 only ever used dumb bombs in their various guises or LGB iirc which is why I prefer it, it's more about flying than lots of different systems. It is for me anyway.
shagrat Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Nope! The F-14B we have is not capable of employing HARM. The analogue systems were not ready for these types of weapons. That's why you have the decoys. The LANTIRN is based on the jury rigged original implementation and uses the interfaces it did in real life. So LGB and bombs were tested and used, but I am not aware there were any plans do have the Tomcat do SEAD with ARMs. Though you could in theory drop a Shrike from a weather balloon the Tomcat is the wrong platform for that weapon. I rather see an A-6 for that. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
Nexus-6 Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 No. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Can't pretend fly as well as you can.
Lucas_From_Hell Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Pass from me, and personally I think there should be an option to restrict the more imaginative loadouts like more than four bombs or the rockets.
Spiceman Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Hard no. And moot.... Heatblur is laser focused on realism, it’s practically a religion to them, as it should be. Former USN Avionics Tech VF-41 86-90, 93-95 VF-101 90-93 Heatblur Tomcat SME I9-9900K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3200 | Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe | RTX 2070 Super | TM Throttle | VPC Warbird Base TM F-18 Stick
kengou Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Certainly not. This isn't Ace Combat. Virpil WarBRD | Thrustmaster Hornet Grip | Foxx Mount | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | Logitech G Throttle Quadrant | VKB T-Rudder IV | TrackIR 5 AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB | 32GB DDR4 3200 | SSD
key_stroked Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 No. And Heatblur would never do it anyway even if we all gave a resounding "yes".
Southernbear Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 Something like a Shrike or HARM?...No, the appeal of something like the F-14 is to have something like an F-14. If you want a plane that can do everything and do it well you have the F-18 and the F-16 (once its complete). Besides you can still do SEAD and Anti Ship with the Tomcat, its just a shit load more interesting as you need to use a mix of TALDs and Rockets/bombs rather then Yeeting a missile way outside the SAM/Ship's range and getting a kill. However on that note, I wouldn't mind seeing more modern upgrades and thus the weapons that come with said upgrades. It wouldn't happen for probably a year or more as chances are HB wants to finish up with the F-14 for now come March 2021 and (most likely assuming ED lets them) move onto the A-6 and make that an actual module. The end result I'd like to see is the F-14D eventually but even a F-14B/U with the Sparrowhawk HUD, PTID and other upgrades which would allow for the use of JDAMs would be cool to see. I know though that HB has said before they just don't have the information at this time for either. and some very small part of me would like to see an F-14D using AIM-120A/Bs instead of AIM-7s just for the meme since it was only 1 software integration away from doing so irl but its still a pipe dream
captain_dalan Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 Only if pulse launchers for micro-photon torpedoes are included. AND type VII phaser strips on the vertical stabs for point defense. Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache, F4U Corsair, WWII Assets Pack
Gunslinger22 Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 I want to be able to carry a minimum of 4 Mk 48 ADCAP’s. "I'm just a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude."
WelshZeCorgi Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 Sure, I'm all for a death star ray gun that you simply shoot once at anytime, anywhere and automatically just... "win". Otherwise, commission a mod or something.
vadupleix Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 I’m all in for a Russian style HMS+R73, would be an interesting what-if for Iranians
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captain_dalan Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 All jokes set aside, (i have no idea how we would get the data required) there is one set of cool features that i would love to get my hands on. And that involves the stuff that got tested during AIM/ACEVAL. Just so i could recreate the tests :P Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache, F4U Corsair, WWII Assets Pack
Raubritter Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 All jokes set aside, (i have no idea how we would get the data required) there is one set of cool features that i would love to get my hands on. And that involves the stuff that got tested during AIM/ACEVAL. Just so i could recreate the tests :P VTAS I/II ? ;)
Uxi Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 AMRAAM would and SHOULD have made it anyway... just needed the funding that was diverted to LANTIRN... Specs & Wishlist: Core i9 9900k 5.0Ghz, Asus ROG Maximus XI Hero, 64GB G.Skill Trident 3600, Asus RoG Strix 3090 OC, 2TB x Samsung Evo 970 M.2 boot. Samsung Evo 860 storage, Coolermaster H500M, ML360R AIO HP Reverb G2, Samsung Odyssey+ WMR; VKB Gunfighter 2, MCG Pro; Virpil T-50CM v3; Slaw RX Viper v2
captain_dalan Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 VTAS I/II ? ;) Someone's been through my browser history lately!!! :smilewink: That, yes. And also the AIM-95 :thumbup: Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache, F4U Corsair, WWII Assets Pack
Swordsman422 Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 AMRAAM would and SHOULD have made it anyway... just needed the funding that was diverted to LANTIRN... Which afforded the F-14 another decade of service. Diversify or die. And OEF and OIF would not have gone as well for the Navy if the F-14 hadn't been available as the premier carrier-borne strike fighter. They made the right choice.
Uxi Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) Which afforded the F-14 another decade of service. Diversify or die. And OEF and OIF would not have gone as well for the Navy if the F-14 hadn't been available as the premier carrier-borne strike fighter. They made the right choice. Sure, don't begrudge that. The number seems so small in light of todays procurements that both should be doable and WRT this thread, AMRAAM loadouts on the Tomcat shouldn't exactly strain plausibility anymore than Zuni rockets. I find myself hoping for an ST21 mod one of these days with the LANTIRN and nav FLIR built into the Phoenix fairings... AMRAAM replacing Sparrow... Edited July 17, 2020 by Uxi Specs & Wishlist: Core i9 9900k 5.0Ghz, Asus ROG Maximus XI Hero, 64GB G.Skill Trident 3600, Asus RoG Strix 3090 OC, 2TB x Samsung Evo 970 M.2 boot. Samsung Evo 860 storage, Coolermaster H500M, ML360R AIO HP Reverb G2, Samsung Odyssey+ WMR; VKB Gunfighter 2, MCG Pro; Virpil T-50CM v3; Slaw RX Viper v2
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