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2 hours ago, Airhunter said:

To get back on track and stop arguing about missiles again, hopefully we'll see something on the 29 at the end of the year. 😉 

Apparently there is this nice thing I just became aware of:

https://www.lotatc.com/

Would this be able to fulfill the requirement for GCI?

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Well, it's been used on servers for a while now. Solved the issue for multiplayer. The problem would be integrating it with planes that use it directly, instead of just relaying data over the radio to the pilots.

 

Example of LotATC use: 

 

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DL vs GCI is like graphical vs vocal. I prefer vocal cos I can use my eyeball scanner freely. Let them call AI GCI mmmmm Igor. Anyway, if ED somehow places DL in fullfid 29, no big fuss. They can fake it just for "balance" sake. There's no flight sim module certification institute on this planet in a first place. Its a kind of gameish sim. Right? Maybe plane spotters could be ears grid input combo with EWR grid cover or SAT, even recon flights. I feel that those elements are missing for good defensive experience in DCS especially for MiGs. When I think twice, best combo could be LotATC + VoiceAttack kind of interface for vocal AI GCI. Who knows? We shall see the outcome of this module when its about to be released anyway.

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2 hours ago, jackmckay said:

DL vs GCI is like graphical vs vocal. I prefer vocal cos I can use my eyeball scanner freely. Let them call AI GCI mmmmm Igor. Anyway, if ED somehow places DL in fullfid 29, no big fuss. They can fake it just for "balance" sake. There's no flight sim module certification institute on this planet in a first place. Its a kind of gameish sim. Right? Maybe plane spotters could be ears grid input combo with EWR grid cover or SAT, even recon flights. I feel that those elements are missing for good defensive experience in DCS especially for MiGs. When I think twice, best combo could be LotATC + VoiceAttack kind of interface for vocal AI GCI. Who knows? We shall see the outcome of this module when its about to be released anyway.

 

So a few points.

 

MP...

 

1. Yeah lotac is a thing, or otherwise the F10 map and JTAC slot. However this only really works on servers with a dedicated GCI population, i.e. very few of them.

2. A few servers have GCI scripts that pop-up enemy contacts with a BRA and some info. Not realistic or that great but better than nothing. But again, not part of any "core" code from ED.

 

A real solution would be some sort of AI voice GCI that isn't nearly as annoying as the current DCS awacs and more useful. Most awacs operators can figure out that tanker at 15k feet 150 miles away isn't really the target you want. Plus a real GCI can figure out hey, that brief popup at low alt, yeah thats likely an enemy plane, extrapolated position is XYZ... This is the type of system DCS really needs. Also, no GCI is gonna recommend flying into the enemy sam net, or will at least mention it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I’ve had two different people mention to me they have all of part of an SMT manual. I assume the day will come when a newer red plane will come out.

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On 10/4/2021 at 6:16 AM, Harlikwin said:

. Also, no GCI is gonna recommend flying into the enemy sam net, or will at least mention it...

How would a GCI know where enemy SAMs are?

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25 minutes ago, Cmptohocah said:

How would a GCI know where enemy SAMs are?

 

Intel... 

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2 hours ago, Cmptohocah said:

How would a GCI know where enemy SAMs are?

Intel, reconnaissance flights, satellites, ELINT, guessing (around important targets)...

We have to assume that GCI would have access to the information from above.

Also detection range of SAM is much better than the SAMs radar itself is able to detect others.

 

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On 10/4/2021 at 5:57 AM, gortex said:

 

80's is awesome.  The DCS modules we have for the time period are the Tomcat, Mirage, Viggen, and Harrier.  We have nothing for red.  I know the Mig-21bis might count, but that type was obviously superseded by better types already.  Mig-29A will be a great addition if it ever happens.

 

 

Agreed, also the 22MLA that will hopefully arrive in this decade. Only thing that's really missing would be a base 27S Flanker which a 3rd party could do. 

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Agreed, also the 22MLA that will hopefully arrive in this decade. Only thing that's really missing would be a base 27S Flanker which a 3rd party could do. 
I'm really hoping Deka could make a full fidelity J11/J12 some day, that would be a good modern high fidelity fighter.

They could even try to make a su30 mki/mkm, that would be awesome. We just need a 3rd party not based in Russia.

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On 11/10/2020 at 12:31 PM, Harlikwin said:

 

Well the problem with doing the 80's or even the 90's with the current 2000 era models you REALLY have to gimp the 2000's era planes, and currently it cannot be done, though I think ED could pretty easily add a few "options" to the plane, maybe server side. Basically you have to turn off the HMCS/NVG, and Datalink (both from the Awacs and Fighter to fighter) to get anywhere close to a 80's or 90's plane capability wise depending on which one. And get rid of the TGP's. Otherwise weapons are already banable so thats easy enough to do. The radars/RWRS will still be "too good" as are the engines but we have to live with that.

In the wishlist section it has been suggested before to have a condition/maintenance slider for aircraft, which could help with the avionics disparity. The idea is the slider goes from 100% (factory fresh plane with perfect maint) to 0 (plane abandoned in a field for a year) and this could scale down things like thrust, radar range, etc.

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23 hours ago, falcon_120 said:

We just need a 3rd party not based in Russia.

They still need to get hold of required data in the first place.

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5 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

They still need to get hold of required data in the first place.

 

For the 29 not that hard, the 29 is the pass round girl of aviation, everyone has had a ride. 

 

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2 hours ago, Harlikwin said:

For the 29 not that hard, the 29 is the pass round girl of aviation, everyone has had a ride.

falcon_120 was talking about J11/12 and Su-30MKI/MKM... and ELE-L29 (lots of info on that last one) 😉

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17 minutes ago, Bladigan said:

Will it be a "clickable" module?

That's the plan and meaning of full fidelity module.

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On 11/15/2021 at 4:30 PM, draconus said:

That's the plan and meaning of full fidelity module.

We see some teasers recently on ground weapons for red airplanes:

Are those just cosmetic improvements or there is actually a coordinated effort on updates to these modules?

Can we expect medium/long range updates for R family?

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40 minutes ago, Mike_Romeo said:

They already have been. There are a few more fine adjustments comming which may slighly decrease its performance.

Decreased? Do you mean the charts (they show actual increase), or some other undisclosed changes?

 

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2 hours ago, okopanja said:

Decreased? Do you mean the charts (they show actual increase), or some other undisclosed changes?

 


The charts are showing it current state after the updates but there are fine tuning comming in the future which maybe will slightly nerf them.
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Its from the russian interview

 

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Posted
27 minutes ago, Mike_Romeo said:

The charts are showing it current state after the updates but there are fine tuning comming in the future which maybe will slightly nerf them.

Could you post the original link please?

 

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5 hours ago, okopanja said:

We see some teasers recently on ground weapons for red airplanes:

Are those just cosmetic improvements or there is actually a coordinated effort on updates to these modules?

Can we expect medium/long range updates for R family?

ED has continue improve and update the old weapons, some weeks ago, some RBK bombs has update and added. Missing some antiship RBK and others to implement.

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24 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

ED has continue improve and update the old weapons, some weeks ago, some RBK bombs has update and added. Missing some antiship RBK and others to implement.

Based on your insight, what would be a motivation to update the weapons of a legacy module?

Clearly we see new 3D models there.

With software development you do not get such things unless the company hopes to make a revenue.

Otherwise, the best you can hope for are cosmetic changes and limited bug fixes.

Is this a sign that ED is actually hoping to make revenue on FC3 or in this case Mig-29A?

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