F-14A on the 19th? *wink, wink, nudge nudge*

[IronMike]

Haha, Top Jockey, you and your double D... Well, the fault is ours, because at first we made the same mistake that fleet defender did. We thought it would indeed do a double D, but in fact it did not, and it also did not show on the hud. (the manual was unclear and btw natops can be sometimes completely wrong, too. Only through comparing different versions, additional data and SME feedback we figured out what was really going on.)

 

The answer remains the same as in the previous thread:

 

"The seeker head does not perform a double D, and ofc it is also not visible in the hud. In CAGE/SEAM it does do a nutation of the seeker to increase missile FOV is all. But no double D."

 

 

Also, Fleet Defender, as great as it was, is no reference whatsoever. :smilewink:

Edited August 21, 2020 by IronMike

[TLTeo]

Speaking of Sidewinders and the -A, can the earlier models we're getting (G I think?) be slaved to the radar in the same way as the L/M? Does their scan pattern with SEAM differ?

[draconus]

Dunno if you guys remember (or maybe we changed it even before release, cant really recall), we had it show at first.

 

Yep, we did have it for a few months.

[IronMike]

Check my edit, too, I still get this wrong myself sometimes today, I default to thinking it does a double D, but it doesnt at all. Only nutation around the ADL etc, except in BRST.

[LanceCriminal86]

Good grief, glove vanes and sidewinder search patterns again.

 

It's Friday, today I finished 40 years flying for a living, I'm going to pour myself a Scotch...

 

:drink:

 

@Victory205 Well you cant leave us at that and not tell us what kind of scotch...

 

 

Also, Im fine with the late 90s A model, as the squadron Im most interested in painting, replicating, and flying only ever had the A models and their last flight was 1998 before transitioning to the lame ass hornet in 1999.

[IronMike]

oh skin wise, you will still get some nice early paints... we don't suck that hard hahaha

[captain_dalan]

The RWR is a page called on the VDI, right? Just like the HSI and the TID?

 

The RWR can be displayed on the HSD by putting the HSD switch into ECM. Not sure what the ECM switch to the right of the mode switch does though.

 

Correct! There goes me, mixing up the VDI and HSD! :doh:

[Southernbear]

oh skin wise, you will still get some nice early paints... we don't suck that hard hahaha

 

Ok...well since we are getting an newer F-14A I have a question, I made a forum post a while back which Cobra commented on essentially saying they were trying to do this but, does that mean we can still expect earlier weapons primarily the AIM-7E4 and Early AIM-9s? (J or N I think) so we can use them with the early paints and "pretend" its an F-14A from 1975-80?

[Victory205]

Tonight, it’s Aberlour 12. I work out a lot, so I don’t drink often. Usually Friday nights only.

[USAFMTL]

Tonight, it’s Aberlour 12. I work out a lot, so I don’t drink often. Usually Friday nights only.

 

So you're officially retired for the last time? Fridays are Glenmorangie 18 for me.

 

Break break.....the gloves vanes are irrelevant so let it the **** go everyone....its the throttles on the starboard side I'm concerned about.....:D

[LanceCriminal86]

After the week I've had I'm hunting me a bottle of Glengoyne 15 year.

[USAFMTL]

After the week I've had I'm hunting me a bottle of Glengoyne 15 year.

 

Most excellent choice as well.

[Reflected]

Would it be realistic to expect the A to come with the September update? It's been the main reason for me to look forward to DCS updates for the last 10-12 months, that's how eagerly I'm awaiting it :)

 

Not to mention my 2 WIP campaigns waiting for the B to be swapped for the A :D

[fat creason]

Would it be realistic to expect the A to come with the September update? It's been the main reason for me to look forward to DCS updates for the last 10-12 months, that's how eagerly I'm awaiting it :)

 

Not to mention my 2 WIP campaigns waiting for the B to be swapped for the A :D

 

That’s our goal, the nozzles are the last remaining major item. I’m not an art guy but sounds like it’s a pain to do the animations for them but they should be compete in the next couple days and then we will send the A out to testers.

[Reflected]

Excellent, thanks for the swift reply! :thumbup:

[WolfHound009]

Will the -A get its own trailer?

[Nodak]

Will the -A get its own trailer?

 

 

Nope, but you will be able to haul it around with its included carrier.

[Top Jockey]

Haha, Top Jockey, you and your double D... Well, the fault is ours, because at first we made the same mistake that fleet defender did. We thought it would indeed do a double D, but in fact it did not, and it also did not show on the hud. (the manual was unclear and btw natops can be sometimes completely wrong, too. Only through comparing different versions, additional data and SME feedback we figured out what was really going on.)

 

The answer remains the same as in the previous thread:

 

"The seeker head does not perform a double D, and ofc it is also not visible in the hud. In CAGE/SEAM it does do a nutation of the seeker to increase missile FOV is all. But no double D."

 

 

Also, Fleet Defender, as great as it was, is no reference whatsoever. :smilewink:

 

Check my edit, too, I still get this wrong myself sometimes today, I default to thinking it does a double D, but it doesnt at all. Only nutation around the ADL etc, except in BRST.

 

Thank you for your time IronMike.

 

In bold, you mean the specific F-14 versions featured in the sim (by Heatblur), or all the iterations of F-14A, A+ and B in the real life ?

And my doubt is purely about real life F-14s.

 

Because according to one of your devs, the docs which mention the double-D search pattern come from the early 70s (references to the AIM-9G), but doesn't explicitly say the scan pattern is shown on the HUD.

 

So what I get from it is that: the double-D pattern existed indeed before the concentric circle one, but probably only in the very first F-14s... again - in the real life.

 

edit

 

Regarding "Fleet Defender", I believe they were groundbreaking at their time, and very highly regarded avionics features wise, also the producers went to NAS Oceana were they did their research.

Still, can't imagine why would they invent / create that AIM-9 visible pattern feature, it's just that.

Edited August 22, 2020 by Top Jockey

[RaisedByWolves]

Nope, but you will be able to haul it around with its included carrier.

 

Haha

[fat creason]

Will the -A get its own trailer?

 

Not sure, maybe not a full trailer but perhaps a short video or something. Not my call to make though. Someone’s gotta remake the Sidra and Top Gun intro videos with the proper Tomcat model :)

[S. Low]

I'm still assuming 2021. But I'll be glad to be proven wrong.

[Gunslinger22]

Tonight, it’s Aberlour 12. I work out a lot, so I don’t drink often. Usually Friday nights only.

 

Got no idea how blokes can drink that rocket fuel, let alone the violence juice we have down here.

[LASooner]

The Final Countdown was filmed in 1979, never saw one glove vane. Case dismissed.

 

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[Blinde]

The Final Countdown was filmed in 1979, never saw one glove vane. Case dismissed.

 

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Top Gun was filmed in 1985 and you can see glove vanes in one scene.

[eatthis]

Top Gun was filmed in 1985 and you can see glove vanes in one scene.

 

was all the flight footage from 85?