Anyone planning on getting the 3090 for VR?

[Gunnars Driver]

Anyone planning on getting the 3090 for VR?

 

Already on order.

[FoxTwo]

Good grief, do we have to continue with this? Been gone through here so many times already.

In the UK, 2080 Ti £1100-£1400, 3090 £1400-£1800.

Please compare like with like.

 

Are you implying that a MSI gaming x trio is not comparable to a EVGA FTW3?

 

How's this then.

 

The MSI Gaming X Trio 3090 would only be $1900 after tax.

 

By grabthar's hammer, what a savings.

[dburne]

This has become a pointless discussion.

 

It is simple, if you don't feel the extra 10-20% is worth double the price, then fine, don't buy a 3090. I you do feel it is, then look forward to that extra performance.

 

This post says it all.

:thumbup:

[dburne]

Already on order.

 

Congrats!

 

I had an EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra in the bag ready to checkout, and just could not pull the trigger.

I may end up regretting that who knows, the price diff was just sticking in my claw so to speak.

[Goa]

as a matter of fact the 3090 is going to be worst choice ever in the gpu market imho.

 

 

I would rather wait a 3080ti with 20gb vram :)

[dburne]

as a matter of fact the 3090 is going to be worst choice ever in the gpu market imho.

 

 

I would rather wait a 3080ti with 20gb vram :)

 

I probably would not say it is worst choice ever, very much individual experience and what they are will to pay for that.

But yeah I am somewhat tempted to wait and see if something else comes down the pike from Nvidia.

[freehand]

 

I would rather wait a 3080ti with 20gb vram :)

 

Regarding the 3080:

 

Yep not prepared to go down on vram will wait for a ti if it apears.

[Goa]

I probably would not say it is worst choice ever, very much individual experience and what they are will to pay for that.

But yeah I am somewhat tempted to wait and see if something else comes down the pike from Nvidia.

 

 

a 10% increase over the 3080 for double the money is not a wise choice imho.

 

 

But if I had no money issues I'll buy it now and then another one and another one again :D

[imacken]

as a matter of fact the 3090 is going to be worst choice ever in the gpu market imho.

 

Again, I don't know why I'm doing this, but... that statement is a joke! So, one of the most powerful GPU cards on the consumer planet is somehow 'the worst choice ever'?

 

This thread just gets worse and worse.

[pimp]

Congrats!

 

I had an EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra in the bag ready to checkout, and just could not pull the trigger.

I may end up regretting that who knows, the price diff was just sticking in my claw so to speak.

Noooooo.:cry: Don, what are you doing? A lot of people are counting on your impressions. I was looking forward to it. All jokes aside, I get it. That's a loooot of money to dish out.:)

[freehand]

Again, I don't know why I'm doing this, but... that statement is a joke! So, one of the most powerful GPU cards on the consumer planet is somehow 'the worst choice ever'?

 

This thread just gets worse and worse.

 

lol I agree just enjoy your purchase :thumbup:

[dburne]

Noooooo.:cry: Don, what are you doing? A lot of people are counting on your impressions. I was looking forward to it. All jokes aside, I get it. That's a loooot of money to dish out.:)

 

Lol yeah I am handing that task over to someone else this go around.

:music_whistling:

[speed-of-heat]

I keep on hoping for useful data on this thread and I keep getting inventive... Oh look the unsbscribe button

[Harlikwin]

@AURELIUS wait until next year, around may june it will come ;) or ED optimizes Vr first. Then we don't need the card anymore ... :)

 

:megalol:

 

Lol, when ED optimizes VR

 

:megalol:

 

When I started playing like 2+ years ago ago everyone was like Vulkan... 2 Years later, vulkan is still 2 years away... :megalol:

[Harlikwin]

In the other thread Harlikwin you asked me about the test conditions, so I will reply here.

 

I did not have a chance to really even get into the card. I brought an SSD with DCS on it and one of my Reverbs. After farting around for about 40 min to get shit set up, I flew the three test missions I always fly, the P-51 at Batumi, the Su-27 over Dubai and the Hornet on the Condition III approach (at night). The settings were almost everything set to the max. The results were:

 

P-51 at Batumi - The 3090 displayed a FPS increase of 41% over the 2080 Ti. (For example, my 2080 Ti at home hangs at around ~ 30 FPS but the 3090 averaged about 42 to 43 FPS.)

Su-27 over Dubai - The 3090 displayed a FPS increase of 28% over the 2080 Ti

Hornet at night - The 3090 displayed a FPS increase of 34% over the 2080 Ti.

 

That is all I got to do before I got booted off :) It was rough and dirty and I am not sure when I can steal some of their time away again.

 

Thanks man.

 

Yeah, food for thought for sure though. 30-40% is about what I expected the actual increase to be for the 2080ti to 3090 so I might have to go through with it.

[Supmua]

FYI, Provantage is taking preorders for MSI cards (3090] in case anybody wants to get on their waiting list.

[dburne]

FYI, Provantage is taking preorders for MSI cards (3090] in case anybody wants to get on their waiting list.

 

Guess I am glad EVGA is not doing that with the 3090 FTW3 Ultra, in that case might be tempting.

 

Still don't think I need to spend all that extra cash for what is likely a small gain over 3080.

I may just hang out a while with my EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3 and see if something in between the 3080 and 3090 comes out in a few weeks.

I won't have the Reverb G2 for a few more weeks anyway and this 2080 Ti is handling this Rift S fairly well.

Edited September 25, 2020 by dburne

[Rogue Trooper]

I agree.

waiting is the best option for me.

I have a feeling that the new 30XX cards may have something to offer me with my incoming G2.

I think there may be something special here as time passes.

[Motomouse]

EVGA cheaped out on the components

[GunSlingerAUS]

Mine arrives in less than 48 hours. Excite, much. But not for DCS VR - for running my LG CX 77" at 120Hz with VRR and HDR. May have to wait a little bit for the firmware update though.

[imacken]

EVGA cheaped out on the components

 

Source? Not from what I've read.

[Waxer]

Jayz2cents video where he takes the backplate off the XC3 to show the cheaper capacitors. Solution is likely software patch to lower the allowed overclock bins.

 

Pretty confident the higher specification FTW3s would not repeat the same mistake.

 

Edit:

 

XC3 uses 5 of the cheaper caps, not 6. With 1 bank of more expensive mini caps (not 2, not 0). And EVGA's position is that for the XC3 it is "within specifications". ie don't expect stability if you push the overclock.

 

FTW3: EVGA reengineered the card to get rid of the 2 of the cheaper caps and install two banks of the many, smaller caps. This explains the shipping delay on launch. But the card should be good for retail release.

Edited September 26, 2020 by Milou

[speed-of-heat]

apparently some reviewers got lower 6 x POSCAP cards, EVGA phoned in live to Steve on GN that

[RogueSqdn]

Jayz2cents video where he takes the backplate off the XC3 to show the cheaper capacitors. Solution is likely software patch to lower the allowed overclock bins.

 

Pretty confident the higher specification FTW3s would not repeat the same mistake.

 

Edit:

 

XC3 uses 5 of the cheaper caps, not 6. With 1 bank of more expensive mini caps (not 2, not 0). And EVGA's position is that for the XC3 it is "within specifications". ie don't expect stability if you push the overclock.

 

FTW3: EVGA reengineered the card to get rid of the 2 of the cheaper caps and install two banks of the many, smaller caps. This explains the shipping delay on launch. But the card should be good for retail release.

 

 

I just watched this because the XC3 is the 3090 that FalconNW is using. Glad he was using EVGA as a good example, not a bad one. His video is of 3080's, though... I wonder what the situation is with 3090's.

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Found POSCAP counts on Reddit.

 

 

 

 

3070

 

 

[TABLE]AIB Model MLCC Groups POSCAPs Source

Asus Dual 4 Asus

Asus Dual OC 4 Asus

Asus Strix 4 Asus

Asus Strix OC 4 Asus

[/TABLE]

 

 

 

3080

 

 

[TABLE]AIB Model MLCC Groups POSCAPs Source

- Founders Edition 2 4 TechPowerUp, Gamers Nexus

Asus TUF 6 0 Asus

Asus TUF OC 6 0 TechPowerUp, der8auer

Asus Strix 6 0 der8auer

Asus Strix OC 6 0 Asus

Colorful iGame Advanced OC 0 6 JayzTwoCents 1

EVGA XC3 Black 1 5 EVGA announcement 2

EVGA XC3 1 5 EVGA announcement 2

EVGA XC3 Ultra 1 5 EVGA announcement 2

EVGA FTW3 2 4 EVGA announcement 2

EVGA FTW3 Ultra 2 4 EVGA announcement 2, /u/notsymmetrical

Gainward Phoenix 1 5 r/nvidia mod table

Galax Black 1 5 r/nvidia mod table

Gigabyte Gaming OC 0 6 JayzTwoCents

Inno3D iChill X3 1 5 r/nvidia mod table

Inno3D iChill X4 1 5 r/nvidia mod table

MSI Ventus OC 1 5 /u/finautobiography

MSI Gaming X Trio 1 5 TechPowerUp, AHOC, Optimum Tech

Palit Gaming Pro OC 1 5 TechPowerUp

PNY XLR8 Epic 1 5 /u/kittyzen comment 3

Zotac 4 X-Gaming 0 6 r/nvidia mod table

Zotac 4 Trinity 0 6 TechPowerUp, AHOC[/TABLE]

 

 

 

3090

 

 

[TABLE]AIB Model MLCC Groups POSCAPs Source

- Founders Edition 2 4 Gamers Nexus

Asus TUF 6 0 Asus

Asus TUF OC 6 0 KitGuruTech

Asus Strix 6 0 Asus

Asus Strix OC 6 0 TechPowerUp

EVGA XC3 Black 2 4 EVGA announcement 1

EVGA XC3 2 4 EVGA announcement 1

EVGA XC3 Ultra 2 4 EVGA announcement 1

EVGA FTW3 2 4 EVGA announcement 1

EVGA FTW3 Ultra 2 4 EVGA announcement 1, HD Technologia

Gigabyte Eagle OC 0 6 TechPowerUp

Gigabyte Gaming OC 0 6 der8auer

MSI Ventus OC 2 4 r/nvidia mod table

MSI Gaming X Trio 2 4 TechPowerUp, Guru 3D

Palit Gaming Pro OC 2 4 Guru 3D

Zotac 2 X-Gaming 0 6 r/nvidia mod table

Zotac 4 Trinity 0 6 TechPowerUp[/TABLE]

Edited September 26, 2020 by RogueSqdn

[Waxer]

I just watched this because the XC3 is the 3090 that FalconNW is using. Glad he was using EVGA as a good example, not a bad one. His video is of 3080's, though... I wonder what the situation is with 3090's.

 

 

Base model Zotac = Bad.

Base model EVGA / XC3 = "Within specifications"

Base model Asus/ TUF = using the more expensive capacitors. Testers found this one of the best budget end cards of the 3080 AIBs and a better performer than the Founders Edition.

 

Asus engineers did a good job.

 

You can take comfort in Jacobs words about the XC3, but the hardware re engineering was limited to the FTW3. The XC3 was not intended for pushing overclocks and likelihood is that such activity will be hardware limited and that EVGA will push a bios that will prevent the failure / crash limit being reached.