Thallios Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 There is a slight workaround Make HUD SOI go into SPI Submode by TMS Aft short and then slave TGP to SPI via China Hat fwd long; Its not realy boreshight but close to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probaco Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 I seem to not be able to recenter my tgp, it use to be chin hat aft. but now it seems to be laser search. anyone else having that issue? Having the same issue. Very annoying. In the first A-10C it still recenters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMD-Wade Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 C not uncaging targeting pod? I'm not sure whether this mapping changed, but when I have my lightening pot trained on a target "C" does not uncage it back to the default position, has it changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMD-Wade Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 now when i press c the tpod goes into laser search mode, any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob10 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 See: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=287452 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paco2002 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Having the same issue. Very annoying. In the first A-10C it still recenters It's not an Issue, is it how it is. If you want to center the TGP, you have to STBY and then A-G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMD-Wade Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 OOOOOooohhh I was worried that it was discontinued.. Thank you for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanwtod Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Hi, loving the upgraded A-10. Just been on a training mission to try out the new stuff and found that whereas previously I could recage my TGP to boresight with China Hat Aft Short when TGP is SOI, this now operates the LSS function - I think this has changed since the previous version, although I could just be getting my muscle memory confused :huh: Many thanks very happy I'm not going nuts, had the same issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonb Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I would really appreciate a tick box to toggle “TGP China Hat old behaviour” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziptie Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I would really appreciate a tick box to toggle “TGP China Hat old behaviour” If they are going for "reality" unfortunately for you I don't think you'll see that. But who knows, they've made other compromises like "realistic/unrealistic" TDC slew. That being said, I'm already used to the updated way (lack of re-caging to boresight/snowplow). You might find that you adapt to the new method quite quickly. Also, being able to quickly slave it to the HMCS almost makes it a non-issue as you can quickly manipulate where the TGP points. Much quicker than before for sure. Cheers, Ziptie i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviscerador Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 You don't need a special HOTAS command to boresigth the TGP. Do you want your TGP to look forward? easy, just look forward and press DMS right long. The TGP will look where you are looking. There you have it boresighted. I understand that after so many years it is hard to change muscle memory but in a few days you will see it is just better in every way. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziptie Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) You don't need a special HOTAS command to boresigth the TGP. Do you want your TGP to look forward? easy, just look forward and press DMS right long. The TGP will look where you are looking. There you have it boresighted. I understand that after so many years it is hard to change muscle memory but in a few days you will see it is just better in every way. It won't stay there though, with the method you described, which is why I think some people are not thrilled about it. I personally like the new method and have already become use to the change. That being said, I don't personally see an argument to reinstate the ability to cage it to boresight/snowplow mode - aside from one person who mentioned having a disability that makes it difficult to rotate their head. Even still, there is the ability to depress STBY and then AG again. Cheers, Ziptie Edited October 1, 2020 by Ziptie i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinkyeti Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 So what's the best procedure to get rid of the gimbal limits warning now? I used to do short-china-hat-aft + long-china-hat-fwd to reset my TGP in the A10C-1. Anyone know of a better solution to reset the TGP than to switch between STBY- and AG-mode ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 So what's the best procedure to get rid of the gimbal limits warning now? I used to do short-china-hat-aft + long-china-hat-fwd to reset my TGP in the A10C-1. Anyone know of a better solution to reset the TGP than to switch between STBY- and AG-mode ? Apparently it is self fixing the gimbal issues now: On the previous version of A-10C the boresight function of TGP was mainly used to reset Gimbal Roll. On this new version it seems that the Gimbal Roll is reseted automatically. I made some quick test and when you lock a target the TGP come back to a centered position before locking SPI. May be I'm wrong but this is what I noticed. In this case reset TGP to boresight is less important. I will do more test tomorrow... Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 It's "correct as is" for HOTAS commands but we should be able to boresight by pressing "B-S" (OSB 5) when in A-G or A-A modes but it isn't an option that ED has included in the TGP. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Ahh - I would settle for this ^^^ I'm actually surprised at how annoying the lack of bore-sight is to me. It's really trivial but I hate it :) Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted October 1, 2020 ED Team Share Posted October 1, 2020 Snoopy's suggestion is reported. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-tk Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Thanks NineLine! As I said elsewhere, your the best! Run that up the flagpole till someone salutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted October 1, 2020 ED Team Share Posted October 1, 2020 Thank Snoopy, he made the suggestion ;) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetguy06 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Gimbal Roll, How to Fix Hey guys. When I'm making multiple attacks with the TGP, I tend to get a GIMBAL ROLL message on the TGP screen, and the TGP will slew off of its target and away. I don't know the specifics of why, but I do know that this can happen occasionally and is to be expected, but in the old Hawg, I would boresight the TGP with China Hat Aft Short, then slew it back onto the target via my own choice of method. Since the new Hawg no longer has the boresight feature (I'm not complaining, it's realistic from what I've read, and am therefore happy it's not in anymore), how do I fix the TGP when this happens? I've already had a few laser mavs and one APKWS miss because the laser will stop firing when the GIMBAL ROLL message appears, even if the TGP stays on target. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Thank Snoopy, he made the suggestion ;) I'm trying to be a productive, and positive helper :D :thumbup: In all seriousness please pass on to the devs that they are doing great and hopefully some of the bugs I reported 8 years ago finally get fixed!! :smilewink: I'm very impressed with what they have done and included in HMCS so far. Hopefully these items will get included eventually as well. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4508242&postcount=5 1 v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hololight Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 So I just hit a sticking point that I only saw one reply about... Gimbal Roll. At least in my case, it did not fix itself, and I couldn't find any quick way to fix this... The main use I had for 'boresight' on the HOTAS was this exact situation... I didn't try the standby then back into AG mode 'workaround', but that would be super clunky in the middle of everything else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyG Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Switch the TGP into standby and then back to AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgDawg4Life Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Centering the TGP Ok, am I nuts or not? Re-centering the TGP, prior to the A-10C II was always done with China Hat Aft, but in the II, China Hat Aft is turning on LSS mode in the TGP, regardless of left or right MFD. I don't remember any key bound specifically to toggling LSS in the TGP and its not bound to OBS 6 on either MFD, so what up? HawgDawg4life of MSFlights.net [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Some of the HOTAS commands have changed (check out the new manual in the A-10C_2 Docs folder). There is no more TGP boresight command, unless you turn the TGP to standby then back to A-G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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