speed-of-heat Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 HPET, seems to be a problem on older systems ymmv... though for fun I turned it on on my current box and it did tank the perf... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
imacken Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 It's like so many things, what works for one doesn't necessarily work for others. The only way of working out what is good for you is to try changes and see the effects. 1 Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
toni Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 Question: is there any way to start DCS by clicking on the desktop instead of Steam or something like that ? Ive got a brainstorming thinking on Reverb G2 vs Rift S , but dont want so many complications prior starting the Sim.
imacken Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 If you are running the standalone version of DCS, that's all you have to do! Just click on the desktop icon - I use Skate's indispensable utility. SteamVR, WMR, etc. all load automatically. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
funkster Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 Been doing some changes / tests. Disabling/Enabling HPET doesn't seem to make any difference to FPS or CPU Frametime Pre Rendered Frames was set to 1 (so no change) ICUE and all other none essential services stopped - No difference Im kind of stumped now ...... another 16GB mem arriving tomorrow so will test again.
Habu_69 Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 Becoming disgusted with HP. Been waiting almost 2 months for a part to make my G2 operable, with no light at the end of the tunnel. Ryzen 5 5600X. WMR can't find VR device error.
ShaunX Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Habu_69 said: Becoming disgusted with HP. Been waiting almost 2 months for a part to make my G2 operable, with no light at the end of the tunnel. Ryzen 5 5600X. WMR can't find VR device error. My G2 couldn't be found by WMR using any USB 3 port on my 5900X motherboard. However, plugging an unpowered USB3 hub into any of those ports and the G2 into the hub works perfectly. It's an easy solution until HP and AMD sort it out. RYZEN 5900X | 32GB | ASUS Strix RTX3090 | 500GB NVMe OS 1000GB NVMe DCS | Warthog HOTAS | HP Reverb G2 | VA & ViacomPRO My DCS Apps: Radio KAOS for DCS KB Quick - Quick and Easy Kneeboards
Sr. Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 11 hours ago, speed-of-heat said: Oh OK, yes you have. Were you by any chance playing with that reshade thing? I would say that you broke the water.fx component, likely by making a change in compose or somewhere else... that’s not what “clear” is meant to look like... that’s completely transparent! run dcs repair, remove any files that are extra, re-download the mod, and re-apply the mod, good luck 2 hours ago, ShaunX said: My G2 couldn't be found by WMR using any USB 3 port on my 5900X motherboard. However, plugging an unpowered USB3 hub into any of those ports and the G2 into the hub works perfectly. It's an easy solution until HP and AMD sort it out. Had same issue with my 3900X/B450 MB Luckily, I had previously added a PCIE USB card. Worked immediately. https://www.amazon.com/FebSmart-Self-Powered-Technology-No-Additional-FS-U4L-Pro/dp/B07Q2BHHRM/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=FebSmart+PCIE+4-Ports+Super+Fast+5Gbps+USB&qid=1617125327&s=electronics&sr=1-4 Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
ShaunX Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Sr. said: Had same issue with my 3900X/B450 MB Luckily, I had previously added a PCIE USB card. Worked immediately. https://www.amazon.com/FebSmart-Self-Powered-Technology-No-Additional-FS-U4L-Pro/dp/B07Q2BHHRM/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=FebSmart+PCIE+4-Ports+Super+Fast+5Gbps+USB&qid=1617125327&s=electronics&sr=1-4 Interestingly, I also had a spare PCIE USB 3 card and I tried that first and it DIDN'T work. It was this one - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MZ3Q5KQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 RYZEN 5900X | 32GB | ASUS Strix RTX3090 | 500GB NVMe OS 1000GB NVMe DCS | Warthog HOTAS | HP Reverb G2 | VA & ViacomPRO My DCS Apps: Radio KAOS for DCS KB Quick - Quick and Easy Kneeboards
speed-of-heat Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 yep and the latest precision x1 had the BIOS update for Firmware support for my Graphics card. which includes rebar supporty, but obviously no MB support for me yet... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Sr. Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, ShaunX said: Interestingly, I also had a spare PCIE USB 3 card and I tried that first and it DIDN'T work. It was this one - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MZ3Q5KQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I've read they can be hit or miss. I originally got it to prevent ghosting of my X-56 throttle. I blindly ordered that one. Got lucky I guess Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
funkster Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 Still trying everything but FPS/Frametime remain the same. Even if i set DCS to low settings! Also shader mod doesnt save any FPS at all? Weird
imacken Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 The Shader Mod has never done anything for my setup either. you’ve just got to try stuff and see what works for you. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
speed-of-heat Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, funkster said: Still trying everything but FPS/Frametime remain the same. Even if i set DCS to low settings! Also shader mod doesnt save any FPS at all? Weird It will depend on your settings , but, it won’t magically increase frame rates, it will reduce gpu frame times, on my settings it allows me 90 FPS in free flight, but those settings are no MSAA and ss 80% in VR... More detail in my sig... if you are MSAA on you won’t see any frame rate improvement, what you do get is some stabilisation of frametimes in some edge scenarios... its marginal on my hardware but it is there SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
dburne Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 2 hours ago, speed-of-heat said: yep and the latest precision x1 had the BIOS update for Firmware support for my Graphics card. which includes rebar supporty, but obviously no MB support for me yet... I have full support now - EVGA MB bios, EVGA VBios for my RTX 3090, and the new Nvidia driver. No idea what this actually does really. Just ran a Hornet campaign mission and everything seemed quite fine as always. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
FoxTwo Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, dburne said: I have full support now - EVGA MB bios, EVGA VBios for my RTX 3090, and the new Nvidia driver. No idea what this actually does really. Just ran a Hornet campaign mission and everything seemed quite fine as always. It doesn't do anything unless the driver profile is updated to support it. Which Nvidia is likely to either never get around to, or they'll test it and find out there's a performance loss and keep it off. You can force it for DCS with nvidia profile inspector. Wouldn't recommend it but it probably won't break anything. Worst case you lose a marginal amount of performance. Best case you gain a marginal amount of performance.
dburne Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, FoxTwo said: It doesn't do anything unless the driver profile is updated to support it. Which Nvidia is likely to either never get around to, or they'll test it and find out there's a performance loss and keep it off. You can force it for DCS with nvidia profile inspector. Wouldn't recommend it but it probably won't break anything. Worst case you lose a marginal amount of performance. Best case you gain a marginal amount of performance. Good to know thanks. I will just wait and see if Nvidia does anything with it. In any event my system is ready should they do so. Plus I play some other VR games that might benefit perhaps. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
imacken Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 I presume you've had a look here Don GeForce RTX 30 Series Performance Accelerates With Resizable BAR Support | GeForce News | NVIDIA Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
dburne Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, imacken said: I presume you've had a look here Don GeForce RTX 30 Series Performance Accelerates With Resizable BAR Support | GeForce News | NVIDIA No I had not, thanks for the link. Yes in Nvidia Control Panel it shows I have Resizable Bar enabled. Edited March 30, 2021 by dburne Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
javelina1 Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, imacken said: I presume you've had a look here Don GeForce RTX 30 Series Performance Accelerates With Resizable BAR Support | GeForce News | NVIDIA hmmm.... RDR2 (here I come...) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
unlikely_spider Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 56 minutes ago, imacken said: I presume you've had a look here Don GeForce RTX 30 Series Performance Accelerates With Resizable BAR Support | GeForce News | NVIDIA Hmm... I updated my 3080 FE with that firmware, and still Nvidia CP says Resizable Bar = No. On an Asus Prime x470 Pro and 5600x Modules: Wright Flyer, Spruce Goose, Voyager 1
imacken Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, unlikely_spider said: Hmm... I updated my 3080 FE with that firmware, and still Nvidia CP says Resizable Bar = No. On an Asus Prime x470 Pro and 5600x Sure you've enabled it in your mobo's BIOS. I had forgotten that! 39 minutes ago, javelina1 said: hmmm.... RDR2 (here I come...) Yep, that and Death Stranding for me! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
unlikely_spider Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, imacken said: Sure you've enabled it in your mobo's BIOS. I had forgotten that! Ok - I had, but checked again. On the bottom of the BIOS screen when I highlight the Resize Bar option, there is a note stating to disable Compatibility Support Module (CSM) in the Boot menu. I'm not really sure what that is, but I disabled it anyway and now Nvidia CP says Resizable Bar is enabled. Edited March 30, 2021 by unlikely_spider Modules: Wright Flyer, Spruce Goose, Voyager 1
dburne Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 2 hours ago, unlikely_spider said: Ok - I had, but checked again. On the bottom of the BIOS screen when I highlight the Resize Bar option, there is a note stating to disable Compatibility Support Module (CSM) in the Boot menu. I'm not really sure what that is, but I disabled it anyway and now Nvidia CP says Resizable Bar is enabled. If you had needed it (CSM) you would have found out pretty quick... Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Burt Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 16 hours ago, speed-of-heat said: HPET, seems to be a problem on older systems ymmv... though for fun I turned it on on my current box and it did tank the perf... I disabled that yesterday. May do some testing tonight. ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020
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